Let us debate
Not even a little bit. ROR is closer to Bergeron than he is to Reinhart by a fair amount. Every ounce of underlying stats shows that his production stands to increase as the team gets more talented around him, and even WITH that fact he put up 61 points in the most bizarrely tough usage situation I've ever seen a forward go through. He had more defensive zone starts per game than any player since the stat has been tracked, won more faceoffs than any player in the history of the league, and is ferociously smart and tenacious defensively, while also being our second best offensive player by a large margin. Reinhart's chores on the ice were cake compared to ROR and he still barely crept up to 50 points on the last day of the season.
People get on ROR's contract while forgetting the cap raising. Matthews is about to get 12 million. Kane just got essentially ROR's deal. Johansen is worse than ROR and signed a year ago for 8 mil a year. That contract is perfect now and is going to be a steal in a year. He's got 5 years left, and his game doesn't rely on speed and physicality, it relies on his brain, which means there's a great chance that he's the exact same player 5 years from now when it ends. If we get our head out of our ass and play him as any great coach would, like the 2nd best offensive piece on an offensively starved team, with a dash of Quenneville-creativity to also make use of his defensive abilities, or like Bergeron with a stacked top line, he could easily be a 70 point Selke winner. He is coaching tweaks from winning the Selke. Reinhart is a disaster at center, and a nice cerebral wing who is coming off of a 50 point career-high season.
ROR has more value and it isn't really close. 5 years of guaranteed elite two way play and very good offense from the most important position on the ice has more value than potential, especially low-ceiling potential from a 22 year old in the case of Reinhart.
Fans have been sold hope based on the kids by bad teams for so long they are blinded by shiny new toys and what players could be.
NHL GMs care about two things: winning the cup and keeping their jobs.
For any contender, of course O’Reilly is better than Reinhart.
I laugh at the Blues fans who are dead-set against trading Robert Thomas for O’Reiily.
Really? Thomas’s ceiling is O’Reilly and there is a fairly decent chance he never hits that.
If he does, it will be four or five years from now, when the window of your Tarasenko/Schwartz/Pietrangelo core is closing.
If I was a Blues fan, I would be salivating at a chance to acquire the player the stature and age of O’Reilly to fill my biggest need without giving up a roster player from my pretty good team.
Wayne Simmonds and Brayden Schenn are very good players and Mike Richards is out of hockey.
The LA Kings do not regret that trade for one second.
He's also a lot younger, faster, and could easily become RoR. He's already been more consistent than RoR was at this point in his career. Saying he can't play center and implying he therefore may never will is just a bananas take. Or maybe you weren't implying that, but he's not limited to what you call a cerebral winger
Is he better now for a contender? Sure. For a team like us? Reinhart has more value
Edited by WildCard, 12 June 2018 - 12:58 PM.