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#2561 Taro T

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 03:35 PM

I think this is right. For the life of me, I don't know why sportswriters have a role in the process, let alone the role.


Most likely a vestige from when most, if not all, of the "fame" a player had came from readers imaginings based on the prose they read w/ their fingers glued (w/ sticky black ink) to the AP/UPI story about their hero's latest exploits in the local fish wrapper.

And once the sports writers/ journalists got control, they certainly weren't going to give it up willingly.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 05:03 PM

At best they should have the equivalent of the fan all start vote, their collective decision counts as a single vote.  I'm not sure how many leagues actually do that with a fan vote, but I know that they've done that with the Hobey in the past.  You make them think they have a say, but they're really just Alaska in a presidential election.

 

For what it's worth, a vote in Alaska is one of the most valuable in the nation, in a way.  Alaska had 3 electoral votes with only 318,608 turnout.  That's one electoral vote per 106,202 voters.  Only Vermont (one per 105,022), DC (one per 103,756), and Wyoming (one per 85,283) had more valuable electoral votes in the last election.



#2563 shrader

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 09:42 PM

For what it's worth, a vote in Alaska is one of the most valuable in the nation, in a way. Alaska had 3 electoral votes with only 318,608 turnout. That's one electoral vote per 106,202 voters. Only Vermont (one per 105,022), DC (one per 103,756), and Wyoming (one per 85,283) had more valuable electoral votes in the last election.


People need to stop taking things literally.

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Posted 08 June 2018 - 11:55 PM

People need to stop taking things literally.

 

I know, I'm a real blast at parties. :P



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Posted 09 June 2018 - 12:11 AM

For what it's worth, a vote in Alaska is one of the most valuable in the nation, in a way. Alaska had 3 electoral votes with only 318,608 turnout. That's one electoral vote per 106,202 voters. Only Vermont (one per 105,022), DC (one per 103,756), and Wyoming (one per 85,283) had more valuable electoral votes in the last election.

what I am hearing is they need to be downgraded on electoral college votes

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Posted 09 June 2018 - 04:46 PM

I know, I'm a real blast at parties. :P


Now if I took this one literally, you might have some feds showing up at that party

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 08:21 AM

I dunno. I admire his integrity to follow through and back up his words. No matter the consequences. As a Skins fan, I remember Sean Salisbury on TV a few years ago claiming if the Skins made the playoffs, he’d walk the DMV in his underwear. Well, the Skins made the playoffs and he never honored his wager. Just a blow hard.

 

I was going to say something about integrity, thanks for doing it for me. I like it, make a promise, stick by it. In this, he's certainly not the first person to quit a job after the company went in a direction he didn't like.

 

what I am hearing is they need to be downgraded on electoral college votes

 

Never going to happen. Like sports writers, low-population states have some extra power (even if it doesn't make sense) and they're never going to give it up.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 09:30 AM

I was going to say something about integrity, thanks for doing it for me. I like it, make a promise, stick by it. In this, he's certainly not the first person to quit a job after the company went in a direction he didn't like.

 

 

Never going to happen. Like sports writers, low-population states have some extra power (even if it doesn't make sense) and they're never going to give it up.

 

There's not really much they can do. Every state gets a minimum of 3 electoral college votes because each state gets a minimum of 3 congressmen (2 Senators and at least one House member based on population break downs per the census). I think it strikes a pretty good balance giving the Senate equal representation per state and the House getting representation based on population with the EC mirroring that compromise.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:09 AM

So how about those Bills?  B-)



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 11:28 AM

So how about those Bills?  B-)

 

My bad.  I did not expect that a throw away comment would get any response at all.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:06 PM

From reading the reports it sounds like QB will go from being a questionable position in the Bills offense to being one of the strengths, regardless of who actually starts.  Supposedly all three quarterbacks are improving rapidly in running the offense.  And in the interview I read, it sounds like Shady has an absolute mancrush on Josh Allen.  I think the "it" factor that Allen will bring that Tyrod never did is that Allen will be shown to have that charisma that a natural leader has.... that vibe and swagger that we haven't had at QB since Kelly.

 

I'm also excited about the secondary.  I haven't been this geeked up about the Bills going into a new season in I can't remember when.

 

I'm calling it:  Bills will sweep the Pats this year.  :w00t:



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:18 PM

The Allen kool-aid drinkers are going to be unbearable until about halfway through camp when he stops showing any sign of improvement. 



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:29 PM

From reading the reports it sounds like QB will go from being a questionable position in the Bills offense to being one of the strengths, regardless of who actually starts. Supposedly all three quarterbacks are improving rapidly in running the offense. And in the interview I read, it sounds like Shady has an absolute mancrush on Josh Allen. I think the "it" factor that Allen will bring that Tyrod never did is that Allen will be shown to have that charisma that a natural leader has.... that vibe and swagger that we haven't had at QB since Kelly.

I'm also excited about the secondary. I haven't been this geeked up about the Bills going into a new season in I can't remember when.

I'm calling it: Bills will sweep the Pats this year. :w00t:

I don't know how you do it. Edmunds looks like the real deal but I can't get a record setting unreal turnover ratio out of my head. This defense was taking the ball away better than any D in NFL history for the first half of the season. That's when the kool aid drinkers will tell me it's totally sustainable and trust the process. They aren't going to do that again. They will regress to the mean with a possible course correction in store.

I also don't see any significant improvement in QB production. Tyrod had his flaws but he minimized mistakes. Something I don't see happening this season.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:33 PM

I agree that the turnover ratio will regress to the mean, but I also think the D will be better, and perhaps much better.

 

As for Josh Allen:  I am all in.  He's going to be great.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 12:55 PM

The Allen kool-aid drinkers are going to be unbearable until about halfway through camp when he stops showing any sign of improvement. 

 

Considering Shady is one of them, I'm still onboard.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:00 PM

Our ludicrously lucky and amazing and historic turnover differential was 7th in the league, 8 net turnovers behind the league leader.

 

Our ratio was ranked the same as the season before, one higher than the season before that, one lower than the season before that. 

 

It was 6 net turnovers behind the 90 SB team, 12 turnovers behind the 98 team, which recovered 25 fumbles to the opponent's 8, it was 5 net turnovers behind the 91 SB team, one behind the 92 SB team, and 27 net turnovers behind the 93 SB team, which recovered 33 fumbles to the opponents' 11. 

It was behind the vaunted 2007 7-9 Dick Jauron Bills team's turnover differential. 

Our turnover differential relative to the rest of the league has been the most consistent thing about the last 4 seasons, ranking 7,7,8,6. We have a ball-hawking secondary, statistically (and advanced-statistically) great at it. 

I don't see what the hand wringing is about.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:01 PM

I don't know how you do it.

 

Continuous improvement.  Seriously.  I keep thinking we have a great secondary.  We lose one two of those guys out of that squad and the replacements are even better the following year.  I think this year will follow that trend.



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:07 PM

I still think Rosen is gonna be way more special

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:09 PM

Our ludicrously lucky and amazing and historic turnover differential was 7th in the league, 8 net turnovers behind the league leader.

Our ratio was ranked the same as the season before, one higher than the season before that, one lower than the season before that.

It was 6 net turnovers behind the 90 SB team, 12 turnovers behind the 98 team, which recovered 25 fumbles to the opponent's 8, it was 5 net turnovers behind the 91 SB team, one behind the 92 SB team, and 27 net turnovers behind the 93 SB team, which recovered 33 fumbles to the opponents' 11.

It was behind the vaunted 2007 7-9 Dick Jauron Bills team's turnover differential.

Our turnover differential relative to the rest of the league has been the most consistent thing about the last 4 seasons, ranking 7,7,8,6. We have a ball-hawking secondary, statistically (and advanced-statistically) great at it.

I don't see what the hand wringing is about.

If they maintained their level all season, it would have been #1 in the league. Nate Peterman did everything he could he turn that around. It was only through the first half of last season.

Edited by inkman, 13 June 2018 - 01:10 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:21 PM

If they maintained their level all season, it would have been #1 in the league. Nate Peterman did everything he could he turn that around. It was only through the first half of last season.

Sure, but I'd imagine that if they finish about 7th again with relatively similar offensive and defensive numbers, they'll finish around 9-7 again even if the turnover differential was a lot smoother (ie, instead of beating Oakland by 30+ points with like a +5 and losing to SD equally with like a -5, they beat team x by 6 with a +1 and lose another game with a -1)

To get into the playoffs they won 3 of their last 4 outside of that fortunate stretch that had them at a record of 5-2. I guess what I'm saying is that while that helped us to a great record, the wins and losses went with the flow of the differential right to the end of the season, and since the net result was perfectly reasonable, there's no reason to believe that another perfectly reasonable turnover differential wouldn't have us in the same ball park it's had us in the last 4 years, which includes seasons from 7-9 to 9-7. 



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:26 PM

If they maintained their level all season, it would have been #1 in the league. Nate Peterman did everything he could he turn that around. It was only through the first half of last season.


That’s my recollection as well.

They wound up “good” on turnovers at season’s end, but they were fairly torrid there in the first half.

I also think this year’s D could be better than last year’s — turnovers aside, maybe.

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:26 PM


SI has a decent article about it:

http://amp.si.com/nf...ddy-bridgewater

Bills (5-4): Let’s be optimistic and say they can get in at 8-8. There’s a 98% chance they’ll be swept by the Patriots and lose at Kansas City, so there’s seven losses. So to have a shot, they need to go 3-1 over the course of a road game against the Chargers, home game against the Colts and a home-and-home against Miami.

Here’s the M. Night Shyamalan twist at the end of this tedious exercise: I was dead the whole time.* Also, none of it matters because the Bills are a bad team. Not in the way the Ravens/Dolphins/Raiders are bad, but truly bad. (O.K., the Dolphins are also truly bad). Consider this: Buffalo currently leads the NFL in turnover differential at +11 through nine games. And, incredibly, they have a point differential in the red (-12).


It cannot be overstated just how atrocious you have to be to pick up an extra possession per game and still get outscored on the season. Over the previous 20 seasons, 41 teams have posted a turnover differential of +1 per game or better over the course of a season. If rabid squirrels gnawed off both your hands, you’d still have enough fingers to count how many of those 41 teams had a negative point differential that season (and you know damn well that not a jury in the world would convict those squirrels).

The Bills are currently on pace to finish the year at +20 in turnover differential. In that 20-year span, 14 teams had done that. The worst point differential among them was the 1999 Chiefs, at +68 (+4.3 per game). The Bills are at -1.3 per game.


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Posted 13 June 2018 - 01:36 PM

As long as they don't have hiccups like that devastating stretch from 5-2 to 5-5, which seems to have been ironed out since then, I'm not worried at all about how the turnover differential got to where it was. 


Roughly speaking (heh), it is equally likely that we have a crazy good turnover stretch this coming year as it is that we have a crazy bad one. We happened to have both last year, which basically canceled each other out. 

Odds are we're decent in turnover differential without the roller coaster of last year to a similar outcome (unless of course someone or some unit blows up in a good or bad way) 



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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:02 PM

I still think Rosen is gonna be way more special


I concur with this assessment

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Posted 13 June 2018 - 02:14 PM

The "offensive" line and lack of WRs will be the undoing of this team.. and the QBs will look like ###### as a result. 



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 12:25 AM

From reading the reports it sounds like QB will go from being a questionable position in the Bills offense to being one of the strengths, regardless of who actually starts.  Supposedly all three quarterbacks are improving rapidly in running the offense.  And in the interview I read, it sounds like Shady has an absolute mancrush on Josh Allen.  I think the "it" factor that Allen will bring that Tyrod never did is that Allen will be shown to have that charisma that a natural leader has.... that vibe and swagger that we haven't had at QB since Kelly.

 

I'm also excited about the secondary.  I haven't been this geeked up about the Bills going into a new season in I can't remember when.

 

I'm calling it:  Bills will sweep the Pats this year.  :w00t:

 

Don't know about that, I read here and there McCarron isn't having a good camp, Petermann is having a better one.

I think there is a reason they are starting to give Allen first team reps.



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:51 AM

Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1. 

http://lastwordonpro...sters-part-one/


Edited by Skurk Liger, 14 June 2018 - 08:52 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 08:52 AM

Gonna guess the top 3 are 

 

Eagles

Vikings

Patriots



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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:19 AM

Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1. 
http://lastwordonpro...sters-part-one/


So not a good time to renew my Sunday Ticket?

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Posted 14 June 2018 - 09:47 AM

Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1.
http://lastwordonpro...sters-part-one/

Look at that, 75% of the AFC East rank from 32, 30 and 28. Tom Brady has had the easiest career in the history of sports.

Edited by ubkev, 14 June 2018 - 09:48 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2018 - 11:35 AM

Ranking all 32 NFL Rosters. Part 1.
http://lastwordonpro...sters-part-one/

Trust the process :unsure:

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Posted Yesterday, 04:28 PM

T.O. just ran a 4.43 40 yd dash with Julio Jones timing him. He is 44 years old. That's gotta be better than shooting your age in golf. Wow!

https://twitter.com/...9920369664?s=19