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Posted 17 January 2018 - 10:31 AM

Hamilton was on WGR this morning. He saw the Amerks play recently, and he remarked in a tone that was actually somewhat apologetic (like, the bearer of bad news) that Nylander was, by far, the worst players for the Amerks in the game. Just nothing going on.

 

That led to a discussion of the good/very good d-men whom FGMTM passed over in order to take Nylander.

 

Effin' FGMTM.



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Posted 17 January 2018 - 11:02 AM

Hamilton was on WGR this morning. He saw the Amerks play recently, and he remarked in a tone that was actually somewhat apologetic (like, the bearer of bad news) that Nylander was, by far, the worst players for the Amerks in the game. Just nothing going on.

 

That led to a discussion of the good/very good d-men whom FGMTM passed over in order to take Nylander.

 

Effin' FGMTM.

 

If you look at my 2016 draft contest, most everyone took Nylander. Murray, McKenzie, Pronman, the Hockey News. Only me (Chychrun) and Button (Craig took someone named Brown, maybe Logan?) took someone else. Tim Murray chose poorly yes, but he only chose poorly because the method that he believes in, what most everyone believes in, doesn't really work.



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 11:50 AM

Kris Baker mentioned that his ELC will slide again if he plays less then 9 NHL Games this season and it's been mentioned a few times here as well

Bring him up for the final eight and put him with Jack and Okposo.

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:33 PM

Kris Baker mentioned that his ELC will slide again if he plays less then 9 NHL Games this season and it's been mentioned a few times here as well

Bring him up for the final eight and put him with Jack and Okposo.

 

I like this idea a lot



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 03:55 PM

Hamilton was on WGR this morning. He saw the Amerks play recently, and he remarked in a tone that was actually somewhat apologetic (like, the bearer of bad news) that Nylander was, by far, the worst players for the Amerks in the game. Just nothing going on.

 

That led to a discussion of the good/very good d-men whom FGMTM passed over in order to take Nylander.

 

Effin' FGMTM.

And that ain't Hammy being a pessimist. The Amerks posters here and on hf regularly say the same thing, unfortunately. 

 



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:18 PM

At practice on Tuesday morning they worked on shootouts. Nylander was the last man standing without scoring.

 

He had one great play last night sending Bailey on a breakaway but that was about it.

 

In overtime last night he was given a shift (didn't get one on Monday) and sent a blind back handed pass in the offensive zone back to no one.



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 04:23 PM

At practice on Tuesday morning they worked on shootouts. Nylander was the last man standing without scoring.


That’s proof to me that his head is ###### up. The kid was one of our best shootout snipers within two weeks of being drafted.

Edited by Mick O’Manly, 18 January 2018 - 05:46 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 05:27 PM

They need to have this guy talk to Alex

https://en.wikipedia...i/Cal_Botterill

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Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:31 PM

Kris Baker mentioned that his ELC will slide again if he plays less then 9 NHL Games this season and it's been mentioned a few times here as well

Bring him up for the final eight and put him with Jack and Okposo.

 

I don't want him near the big club before he's done something to actually deserve it.  For starters it sends a horrible message to the kids that have earned a call up.



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 07:37 PM

That’s proof to me that his head is ###### up. The kid was one of our best shootout snipers within two weeks of being drafted.

Was the Cal O'Reilly stuff from last season recently brought up here? He was honestly in a terrible situation last year and the organization didn't realize it until they had to suddenly trade Cal. 



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Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:32 PM

I don't want him near the big club before he's done something to actually deserve it. For starters it sends a horrible message to the kids that have earned a call up.


Right or wrong he was the eighth overall pick.

Botterill is on record saying prospects will get a look with the Sabres this season, Nylander would be one of the final ones.

In terms of sending a bad message to the kids that have earned a call up, the Sabres are a tire fire and it’s Botterill’s Responsibility to do what’s best the organization and put Nylander in the best position to succeed. Even if he doesn’t deserve it.

Right or wrong message, the kids have to understand what the ultimate goal is

If he doesn’t take advantage of that opportunity, it’s on him.

Edited by Brawndo, 18 January 2018 - 08:33 PM.


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Posted 18 January 2018 - 08:34 PM

I don't want him near the big club before he's done something to actually deserve it. For starters it sends a horrible message to the kids that have earned a call up.


Well the good news is that only one player will need any sort of explanation

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 02:31 AM

I don't want him near the big club before he's done something to actually deserve it.  For starters it sends a horrible message to the kids that have earned a call up.

 

This.   



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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:28 AM

Kris Baker mentioned that his ELC will slide again if he plays less then 9 NHL Games this season and it's been mentioned a few times here as well
Bring him up for the final eight and put him with Jack and Okposo.


Just saw this Tweet (I don’t look at Twitter very often). Interesting. That gives us three more years to develop the kid properly. However, the kid shouldn’t be brought up at all this season. He needs to go the other way. Send him to the ECHL forva few weeks with instructions to shot first and get into the dirty areas.

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Posted 19 January 2018 - 11:59 AM

Just saw this Tweet (I don’t look at Twitter very often). Interesting. That gives us three more years to develop the kid properly. However, the kid shouldn’t be brought up at all this season. He needs to go the other way. Send him to the ECHL forva few weeks with instructions to shot first and get into the dirty areas.

 

 

he is never getting into the dirty areas.  We will always be disappointed in him if thats what you are looking for. 

 

Doesnt mean he can't be successful in the NHL. Leafs aren't asking their Nylander or Marner to get into the "dirty areas" i dont believe.  Alex's job will be to get into the open spot and take advantage of his skill. 



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:07 PM

Ten periods in a row without a shot on goal.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:08 PM

Ten periods in a row without a shot on goal.

 

He's perfect for the Sabres.  I think they need to call him up right now.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:08 PM

:lol:



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:14 PM

He's perfect for the Sabres.  I think they need to call him up right now.

 

Awesome.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 02:43 PM

Awesome.


I knew you would come around ;)

Edited by Brawndo, 21 January 2018 - 02:43 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 03:52 PM

He's perfect for the Sabres. I think they need to call him up right now.


Sounds like someone is coming around to the idea of tanking.

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:12 PM

Sounds like someone is coming around to the idea of tanking.

 

NEVER!!

 

Randall and We've got it.  And We've would never come around either, Mr. Brawndo, but at least you put the winkie thingie in there.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:24 PM

NEVER!!

Randall and We've got it. And We've would never come around either, Mr. Brawndo, but at least you put the winkie thingie in there.

I was just kidding, man. I know you and nfreeman are about as staunchly anti tank as they come, among a few others.

It's just kind of funny that "promoting" Nylander to the struggling Sabres would probably be benficial to Rochester by giving someone else a shot to produce in his spot for them better than he has. His assist in helping the parent club tanking is really secondary.

Edited by Alkoholist, 21 January 2018 - 04:25 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:30 PM

I was just kidding, man. I know you and nfreeman are about as staunchly anti tank as they come, among a few others.

It's just kind of funny that "promoting" Nylander to the struggling Sabres would probably be benficial to Rochester by giving someone else a shot to produce in his spot for them better than he has. His assist in helping the parent club tanking is really secondary.

 

I figured that, but I never give up a chance to make my voice heard.  There were very few against the tank.  The most vocal from what I remember were nfreeman, We've and myself.  I think there were a few others, but not as well voiced in that opinion.

 

The Sabres SOG is terrible each and every game.  Not sure, but maybe the lowest in the league.  Nylander's awesome SOG draught would have him fit right in on the Sabres.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 04:38 PM

I figured that, but I never give up a chance to make my voice heard. There were very few against the tank. The most vocal from what I remember were nfreeman, We've and myself. I think there were a few others, but not as well voiced in that opinion.

The Sabres SOG is terrible each and every game. Not sure, but maybe the lowest in the league. Nylander's awesome SOG draught would have him fit right in on the Sabres.

I know you're joking but I'd actually like to see it happen for a few games. Give him a few games on Eichel's wing and see if he sinks or swims at the deep end of the pool.

This season is lost anyway. Might as well roll the dice. If Eichel can't get him going move him down to the 3rd line with Reinhart and see what happens. Just make sure to send him back early enough that his contract slides again.

Edited by Alkoholist, 21 January 2018 - 04:38 PM.


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Posted 21 January 2018 - 05:20 PM

The Sabres SOG is terrible each and every game.  Not sure, but maybe the lowest in the league.  Nylander's awesome SOG draught would have him fit right in on the Sabres.

 

Sabres are 21st in SOG.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 06:18 PM

Sabres are 21st in SOG.


Any fancy stats on where they rank for quality shots &/or scoring chances?

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 08:21 PM

Any fancy stats on where they rank for quality shots &/or scoring chances?

 

Dead last in scoring chances with 1137.



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 09:36 PM

Dead last in scoring chances with 1137.


Thanks.

Sometimes fancy stats & the eye test confirm each other. ;)

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Posted 21 January 2018 - 09:40 PM

Thanks.

Sometimes fancy stats & the eye test confirm each other. ;)

 

lol yeah.

 

Bottom 5

 

31. Sabres

30. Ottawa

29. Nashville

28. Detroit

27. Minnesota

 

Top 5

 

1. Toronto

2. Pittsburgh

3. Edmonton

4. Chicago

5. Tampa Bay



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Posted 21 January 2018 - 09:44 PM

lol yeah.
 
Bottom 5
 
31. Sabres
30. Ottawa
29. Nashville
28. Detroit
27. Minnesota
 
Top 5
 
1. Toronto
2. Pittsburgh
3. Edmonton
4. Chicago
5. Tampa Bay


Very interesting. Expect that the teams that seem to be highly out of place are in the "proper" spits when looking at fewest scoring chances against.

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Posted 22 January 2018 - 01:33 PM

They need to have this guy talk to Alex

https://en.wikipedia...i/Cal_Botterill

 

If only there was someone in the organ-EYE-zation who had a connection with this guy...  :unsure:


I figured that, but I never give up a chance to make my voice heard.  There were very few against the tank.  The most vocal from what I remember were nfreeman, We've and myself.  I think there were a few others, but not as well voiced in that opinion.

 

I was against the tank until I was for it.