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#41 Woods-Racer

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 10:23 AM

I don't know about you guys, but the crew on the 'Laurel' don't look like any of the sailors that I know.

 

I must be living in the wrong port city, or something.

 

That is some eye candy and their sailor suits are the best ones I've seen. 

 

 

 

That ship is a floating hotel. It's to make money for him. If it's like any other corporate owned vacation rental the IRS governs the amount of personal use. Would assume that most of his properties are for making money. Like the one in the article. Uppity corporate AIRBNB.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:12 AM

Yep: “I have always believed that government has a responsibility to protect people,” Golisano stated in a release put out Monday. “We are not talking about a few geese who occasionally land for lunch. We are talking about up to 200 geese at a time that refuse to leave."

 

#Geesethuglife



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:12 AM

Yep: “I have always believed that government has a responsibility to protect people,” Golisano stated in a release put out Monday. “We are not talking about a few geese who occasionally land for lunch. We are talking about up to 200 geese at a time that refuse to leave."


Man is this some next level rich prick whining

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:19 AM

I don't know about you guys, but the crew on the 'Laurel' don't look like any of the sailors that I know.

 

I must be living in the wrong port city, or something.

Mr. NS, exactly how many sailors do you know? I will remind the witness that he is under oath. (The courtroom chatters and mutters and the judge threatens to clear it!)



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:22 AM

Well, I looked at some semi-comparable house listings on that lake, and I still think $132K per year in property taxes is insane.  These are lakefront homes of comparable size, albeit with less frontage.  None of the homes lists for more than $1.3MM -- so even if OSP's house is worth $2MM, that is still a huge prop tax bill relative to prop value.

 

https://www.fingerla...anandaigua-lake



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:23 AM

Mr. NS, exactly how many sailors do you know? I will remind the witness that he is under oath. (The courtroom chatters and mutters and the judge threatens to clear it!)

 

I will assume that Judge Smell is on the bench and, therefore, I plead the 5th on this one.

 

Oh, wait.  Is the trial in Canada?



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 11:51 AM

Well, I looked at some semi-comparable house listings on that lake, and I still think $132K per year in property taxes is insane.  These are lakefront homes of comparable size, albeit with less frontage.  None of the homes lists for more than $1.3MM -- so even if OSP's house is worth $2MM, that is still a huge prop tax bill relative to prop value.

 

https://www.fingerla...anandaigua-lake

That first one is $70K in taxes and only 151ft frontage.

We also don't know the acreage difference.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:06 PM

That first one is $70K in taxes and only 151ft frontage.

We also don't know the acreage difference.

 

Not sure which one you're looking at -- the first one on my list is a 2642 sf house for $1.325MM but I don't see the prop taxes listed.

 

And I have the same opinion about $70K in taxes on a $1.3MM house!



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:39 PM

you'll see he commented that the he tried the dog solution and others, didn't work, and pushes the geese to neighbors, which is not cool.


I’m not buying it. It’s a whack a mole approach, sure. But then that forces your neighbors to take similar actions. Until such time that the geese are persuaded to congregate on public unimproved land.

WTF is withholding local taxes going to do to change that? Canada geese are protected under federal law. There isn't a thing that can be done at the state and local level.


Exactly.

I’m all for management of nuisance geese, btw. The green space in the City of Tonawanda along the river (forget the name of the park) is mostly unusable because of all the goose poop.

Oh, and hey. The land I’m concerned with is public in nature.

Cheering Golisano is worse than cheering for the house in gambling — it’s cheering for a house that is reasonably thought to be crooked.

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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:39 PM

Not sure which one you're looking at -- the first one on my list is a 2642 sf house for $1.325MM but I don't see the prop taxes listed.

 

And I have the same opinion about $70K in taxes on a $1.3MM house!

This is life in WNY.  $40.00 per thousand assessment is a good rule of thumb, the bulk of which is school tax.  We have the highest rates in USA last I read deeply on it.  So $200k house is $8k per year.  My understanding is that the rates are not different for lake-front vs non-lake-front, so you have to fight assessment which Golisano has been successful with in the past.  Finger Lakes real estate is on fire, so assessments go up and long time owners get mad.  All said housing costs are lower here than elsewhere, so rate looks worse, but our schools are generally pretty great, but also tons of state pensions to pay, etc etc.  



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:47 PM

Man!!

 

And I always complained about our property taxes being very high.  You folks in WNY, sssshhheeeessshhhh .........



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 12:47 PM

Not sure which one you're looking at -- the first one on my list is a 2642 sf house for $1.325MM but I don't see the prop taxes listed.

 

And I have the same opinion about $70K in taxes on a $1.3MM house!

http://www.realtyusa...terNY/R1019461/



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:19 PM

 

 

That is a 9500 sf house!  OSP's was 2900 sf.



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Posted 15 November 2017 - 01:28 PM

That is a 9500 sf house!  OSP's was 2900 sf.

But OSP has 6 times the lake frontage. That's not nothin'.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:34 AM

Solid W for OSP  :P.  Says he will donate the cash winnings to Autism Center.

http://www.dailymail...rating-tab.html

 

 

Next up, culling of the geese.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:27 AM

That is a 9500 sf house!  OSP's was 2900 sf.

 

One of the articles mentions OSP's house is assessed at $5M+. SF doesn't matter.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:33 AM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 11:35 AM

Dude needs to pony up a few bucks and hire a Falconer.

 

My buddy is a Falconer (falcon trainer) for a local landfill. The falcons fly around and scare away/kill a few nuisance birds to keep them from the area. Coupled with some pyro and you no longer have a bird problem.

 

The tri-county area I live in has been pushing crows around for awhile, but if you are the one with pyro and falcons, you don't have much to worry about.

 

They are not expensive to hire, and there are more than a few around.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 12:39 PM

Aparently the rich commie wants the town to hire the falconer.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 12:41 PM

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 02:58 PM

Aparently the rich commie wants the town to hire the falconer.

And his taxes will be going down next year while mine will be going up to pay for it.

 

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 05:32 PM

And his taxes will be going down next year while mine will be going up to pay for it.

 

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The commies get commier. Redistribution of wealth... fun.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:05 PM

And his taxes will be going down next year while mine will be going up to pay for it.

 

:ph34r:

After taxes I live off of about 14K per year and am legally not allowed to get another job. My taxes are about to increase $2,000 per year without an increase in income because of the removal of section 26 something or other 117(D) of the old tax code. I know of someone in the same boat at a better grad school, who earned his way in there, who will lose almost $7,000 of what he takes home now, which isn't far off of my number. He may have to leave school because taking on loans when you already have a STEM degree, until you're almost 30, is not a smart idea.  

 

 

:ph34r:

 

(The emoji ninja hides the "political" talk from the mods, right?) :P

 

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Edited by Randall Flagg, 16 November 2017 - 06:06 PM.


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Posted 16 November 2017 - 06:20 PM

Preventing someone from making more money sounds anti-American to me.

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:12 PM

An OSP thread gone political? Who knew!

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Posted 16 November 2017 - 07:33 PM

There is a simple inexpensive solution for Golisano's problem. When I first heard of it I tried to contact the head of his foundation but didn't get a return call. I used to have a property on Chautauqua Lake and was invaded by geese. I researched solutions and found a product from Liquid Fence specifically designed to make the grass taste awful without harming it. It worked wonderfully. I used about 1/2 gallon of concentrate ($125 a gallon) so I think maybe he should pony up and not expect the government to do it for him.



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Posted 16 November 2017 - 08:25 PM

Preventing someone from making more money sounds anti-American to me.

But telling people that a tax hike is actually a tax cut,... and having them believe it, is absolutely American.

Edited by SwampD, 16 November 2017 - 08:26 PM.