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#401 nucci

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 09:58 AM

What is Reinhart going to demand in contract negotiations at this rate? JBot may be able to capitalize on his stat line and get a nice bargain, if Sam and his agent are for some reason willing to negotiate right now, in season.

you're assuming they want to re-sign him



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:13 AM

you're assuming they want to re-sign him

 

I assume your comment was tongue in cheek. They'd be dumb not to re-sign him. I imagine they'll be too far apart on a long term deal and he'll get a bridge contract which is fine. That will give us time to get rid of some more cap anchors (Gorges this year and Moulson next year).



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:16 AM

Kinda sucks Reinhart didn't get that goal.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:25 AM

Kinda sucks Reinhart didn't get that goal.

 

I've looked at the replay several times and it looks pretty clear to me that he got a stick on it, but maybe it was the defender that was with him.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:30 AM

Why didn't Gibson get a penalty for diving? He actually jumped when Kane hit him. And why didn't Perry get a penalty for tripping Johnson?

 

Hey, if I bitch about officiating when the lose, I have to bitch about it when we win.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:38 AM

I've looked at the replay several times and it looks pretty clear to me that he got a stick on it, but maybe it was the defender that was with him.

I agree. I rewatched the goal 5 times in the highlight package and it deflects off his stick into the other players leg/skate. 



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 10:45 AM

I assume your comment was tongue in cheek. They'd be dumb not to re-sign him. I imagine they'll be too far apart on a long term deal and he'll get a bridge contract which is fine. That will give us time to get rid of some more cap anchors (Gorges this year and Moulson next year).

Not necessarily. he's a good player and I like him but not sure he deserves a long term deal



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:01 AM

Not necessarily. he's a good player and I like him but not sure he deserves a long term deal

 

Give him some time, most of Tampa's core only exploded when they were 23 - 24 yrs old.

Bridge him and he 'll do fine.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:09 AM

Why didn't Gibson get a penalty for diving? He actually jumped when Kane hit him. And why didn't Perry get a penalty for tripping Johnson?

Hey, if I bitch about officiating when the lose, I have to bitch about it when we win.

We expect nothing less

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:23 AM

Why didn't Gibson get a penalty for diving? He actually jumped when Kane hit him. And why didn't Perry get a penalty for tripping Johnson?

 

Hey, if I bitch about officiating when the lose, I have to bitch about it when we win.

 

You really should look back at the penalty, Kane clearly clipped him. 


Edited by Huckleberry, 16 October 2017 - 11:24 AM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:28 AM

Not necessarily. he's a good player and I like him but not sure he deserves a long term deal

 

He likely won't get one. Reinhart has been productive for us but I imagine he'd want good money to sign a long term contract and the risk of him not playing up to it would be high for the Sabres, so they'd naturally want to low ball him (especially given his slow start this season). Because of that a short term deal that still leaves him as a RFA at the end of it is probably the best option for both sides.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:48 AM

He likely won't get one. Reinhart has been productive for us but I imagine he'd want good money to sign a long term contract and the risk of him not playing up to it would be high for the Sabres, so they'd naturally want to low ball him (especially given his slow start this season). Because of that a short term deal that still leaves him as a RFA at the end of it is probably the best option for both sides.

Can't argue with any of this



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 11:51 AM



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:41 PM

You really should look back at the penalty, Kane clearly clipped him. 

I thought he hacked him on the back of the leg 



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:42 PM

Eichel had his best game of the season. Definetly need everyone engaged like they were in this one, 60 mins a night every game night.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 01:56 PM

Eichel had his best game of the season. Definetly need everyone engaged like they were in this one, 60 mins a night every game night.

 

If they do, do we have enough talent to win every game?  No.  But they have enough talent to win more than that lose.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:05 PM

Eichel had his best game of the season. Definetly need everyone engaged like they were in this one, 60 mins a night every game night.

 

I actually thought he was leading the team as well.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:35 PM

The NHL changed the second goal back to Reinhart with an assist from Pouliot

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:36 PM

By the way, Reinhart was re-credited that goal


The NHL changed the second goal back to Reinhart with an assist from Pouliot

God damm you're quick



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:38 PM

The NHL changed the second goal back to Reinhart with an assist from Pouliot

 

HUZZAH!



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 02:38 PM

By the way, Reinhart was re-credited that goal

God damm you're quick


We will call this one a draw.

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:33 PM

You really should look back at the penalty, Kane clearly clipped him. 

Watch the corner cam. Kane clipped him, but he was well past him when you see his right leg buckle, in the opposite direction of the hit so that he could fall. He absolutely dove.

 

And that still doesn't explain why Perry didn't get a penalty for shoving Johnson's skate out from underneath him with his stick.


Edited by SwampD, 16 October 2017 - 03:34 PM.


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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:35 PM

The NHL changed the second goal back to Reinhart with an assist from Pouliot

 

I probably care about that goal more than I should, but I really was hoping it would go to Sam. Hopefully it kick-starts him this season



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 03:40 PM

If asked about it, I'm pretty sure Sam would say, "As long as it counts on our side, it doesn't matter who gets the credit."

 

But inside he's thinking "YES!  YES!  YES!"


Also, Sam's been a member of the team longer, and will probably have a much longer tenure with the team going forward, so it's like rooting for your son versus someone who just happens to be on your son's team.  :D



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 04:28 PM

If asked about it, I'm pretty sure Sam would say, "As long as it counts on our side, it doesn't matter who gets the credit."

 

But inside he's thinking "YES!  YES!  YES!"


Also, Sam's been a member of the team longer, and will probably have a much longer tenure with the team going forward, so it's like rooting for your son versus someone who just happens to be on your son's team.  :D

I dunno. He's talented and proud (I assume). Is that really how someone wants to get off the schneid? 24 hours later, when that bug-eyed dude from the Florida recall gets called into Bettman's office and emerges 45 minutes later with the verdict?



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 04:54 PM

Two weeks from now it will be irrelevant.



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 06:15 PM

Two weeks from now it will be irrelevant.

obviouly because he will have 30 goals by then, to go with Eichel's 20g 50a

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 06:40 PM

I think there is no chance of it happening, but if this team gives Reinhart a big contract they will be a last place team for the next decade. 



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:27 PM

I think there is no chance of it happening, but if this team gives Reinhart a big contract they will be a last place team for the next decade. 

Pokey. love you man! I have been reading your posts and I could not agree more with almost everything you post. You are a realist, not just a fan. I love this team, but I just cannot fathom the #### show this club has become. I can only hope that one day we acquire decent management and coaching that returns this club to some glory. I cannot believe we are wasting Jack Eichel right now like we are. I am not getting my hopes up after 1 victory over Anaheim. They may have taken the Sabres too lightly. Lets see what happens in Vegas. Keep up the great posts!



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:42 PM

I think there is no chance of it happening, but if this team gives Reinhart a big contract they will be a last place team for the next decade.

Why would they give him a big contract? You're very pessimistic sometimes

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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:46 PM

Sometimes?  Just sometimes?



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Posted 16 October 2017 - 07:56 PM

Sometimes? Just sometimes?

I ate a Snickers and I'm trying to be nicer

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 12:41 AM

Watch the corner cam. Kane clipped him, but he was well past him when you see his right leg buckle, in the opposite direction of the hit so that he could fall. He absolutely dove.
 
And that still doesn't explain why Perry didn't get a penalty for shoving Johnson's skate out from underneath him with his stick.


Yup. I thought he dove too and said as much. Doesn't mean Kane didn't clip him, and it wasn't a good play from him. But there was still a performance taking place there.

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 12:56 AM

I kind of prefer the "realist" label eman gave me - thanks man!  

 

That's the way I see myself. I am a fan. I WANT this team to win big time, but I try to be objective and unemotional in analysis of players strengths etc. No fan bias in that. 

 

I am excited by the new philosophy this management group has, but I also see it has a long way to go. Murray was a really really really bad GM. 

 

It's going to take time to change the style, attitude and the player chemistry (which is seriously lacking) on this team.  



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 04:26 AM

I didn't notice that you see yourself that way, thanks for explaining

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 09:48 AM

I kind of prefer the "realist" label eman gave me - thanks man!  

 

That's the way I see myself. I am a fan. I WANT this team to win big time, but I try to be objective and unemotional in analysis of players strengths etc. No fan bias in that. 

 

I am excited by the new philosophy this management group has, but I also see it has a long way to go. Murray was a really really really bad GM. 

 

It's going to take time to change the style, attitude and the player chemistry (which is seriously lacking) on this team.  

You're in for a rough ride around here. Godspeed.



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Posted 17 October 2017 - 10:11 AM

You're in for a rough ride around here. Godspeed.


My wife tells me this every third Thursday of the month

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Posted 17 October 2017 - 11:24 AM

You're in for a rough ride around here. Godspeed.

lol