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#81 Pokey Jones

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Posted 13 October 2017 - 11:57 PM

Well in fairness, Housley played for a lot of great coaches so he must have picked up a thing or two along the way. That's the main reason journeymen make great coaches, they move around and see lots of coaches and lots of ideas. 

 

It's not Housley, its the team. It's just so much easier to blame one guy instead of 20. 



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 07:21 AM

Well in fairness, Housley played for a lot of great coaches so he must have picked up a thing or two along the way. That's the main reason journeymen make great coaches, they move around and see lots of coaches and lots of ideas. 

 

It's not Housley, its the team. It's just so much easier to blame one guy instead of 20. 

Will he start popping ice one of these nights? Who else did he play for? Yeah, I could look it up...

 

I'm not blaming Housley at all. OK, maybe for the shootout call on opening night. It's 99% the players at this point. These putzes are making me thirsty.



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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

I'm not sure comparing this year's Sabres to last years Leafs is a fair comparison.

The Leafs were running Babcock's System for the second year, compared to the first for Housley's. Even although Nylander, Brown and Hyman spend a majority of the time with the Marlies, Keefe was running Babs System. And by the end of the dignity year the Leafs Possession Numbers were pretty impressive.

It's much easier for players of Matthews and Marner's Elk to have success when a majority of their team is already comfortable with the system.

The Sabres are starting from scratch. If there is not improvement in the next two months, there may be a problem and some player movement is necessary

Edited by BRAWNDO, 14 October 2017 - 02:14 PM.


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Posted 14 October 2017 - 02:47 PM

Thanks for the analysis Randall. 



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 12:48 PM

4-5 OT loss

4-1 win

4-5 OT loss

2-3 loss

4-5 SO loss

3-7 loss

3-2 win

1-2 loss

1-5 loss

3-2 OT win

 

Toronto showed promise right out of the gate even if the points didn't come.  We need to step up to be as good as toronto's 2-7 start.

We're now a 1-0-1 stretch from equaling Toronto's record last October. 

 

Let it be so. 



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Posted 18 October 2017 - 01:55 PM

PS Marner now playing on TO fourth line...

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Posted 18 October 2017 - 05:59 PM

Cause Marner won't back check and they are good enough to be able to do this. 

 

Much harder to send a lesson demoting players when half your team or more is playing crap. 



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Posted 19 October 2017 - 02:20 PM

This is interesting,

http://www.wgr550.co...-have-been-good

"Our defense, as a whole, needs to simplify their game. When we have opportunities to execute, whether it's in a break out or a neutral zone re-group where we can transition the other way, we need to continue to get better in that area." - Phil Housley


Edited by ShadowLiger, 19 October 2017 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:53 PM

What was that Housley said when he was signed, I think it was "it will be fast"....................so I'm still waiting for that................

 

I think this team is uncoachable. 



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:55 PM

Who is the leader on this team? I’d say nobody

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 08:56 PM

zero emotion, zero effort.



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:00 PM

Too many of the same personalities

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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:08 PM

I was a HUGE fan of this hire.  I'm no longer faithful.  

 

I'll give him until the quarter pole to figure out how to run a ###### power play without giving up shorties.

 

I am going to the SJ game on 10/28.  I don't think I'll watch one until then.  (Yeah, I'll be here tomorrow night, shut up.)



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Posted 20 October 2017 - 09:24 PM

I was a HUGE fan of this hire.  I'm no longer faithful.  
 
I'll give him until the quarter pole to figure out how to run a ###### power play without giving up shorties.
 
I am going to the SJ game on 10/28.  I don't think I'll watch one until then.  (Yeah, I'll be here tomorrow night, shut up.)


It's only so painful because we know we'll always be watching :(

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Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:13 PM

http://buffalonews.c...-shakes-things/

Housley thinks we need to move the puck faster on the pp and I agree.



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Posted 23 October 2017 - 02:17 PM

Move faster and quicker more accurate passes is where he wants to get to... practice practice yeh practice.. its coming based on the last game, when this team is finally coordinated at full speed I may just wake up in a puddle of drool.

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 01:10 AM

Yup, there isn't enough back and forth passing on this team in general. Too many one shots and long shots, not enough puck possession. Definitely have to move the puck around more on the PP and I would also say move Jack around more. 



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Posted 24 October 2017 - 03:45 PM

Yup, there isn't enough back and forth passing on this team in general. Too many one shots and long shots, not enough puck possession. Definitely have to move the puck around more on the PP and I would also say move Jack around more. 

 

Wasn't Randall (and others) all over the lack of possession a big problem with the Sabres last year.  I think they even attributed much of it to Disco Dan's coaching style / system?



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Posted 24 October 2017 - 03:48 PM

Wasn't Randall (and others) all over the lack of possession a big problem with the Sabres last year. I think they even attributed much of it to Disco Dan's coaching style / system?

It was part of his system and we're still seeing the impacts of that.

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Posted 24 October 2017 - 04:11 PM

I would like to see improved possession stats, but we'll be able to tell without checking the spreadsheets if that's happening. It's too early to get anything from traditional possession stats at this point. 

 

I have only been to a stats website 2 or 3 times so far this season, I'm proud of myself! 

 



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:04 PM

Housley said they break the season up into 7 game segments to make it follow the playoff series format. 

Towards the end of the video in here: https://www.nhl.com/...ine/c-292500112


Edited by ShadowLiger, 02 November 2017 - 12:04 PM.


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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:35 PM

That's kinda clever.

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 12:57 PM

Housley said they break the season up into 7 game segments to make it follow the playoff series format. 
Towards the end of the video in here: https://www.nhl.com/...ine/c-292500112


What do the break-up Eichel/Kane have to say about the statistical argument there that the line has been among the league’s best at even-stength?

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Posted 02 November 2017 - 01:01 PM

What do the break-up Eichel/Kane have to say about the statistical argument there that the line has been among the league’s best at even-stength?

I would question the veracity of those statistics, given some of the disingenuous stats Housley has tried to push recently. 



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 01:09 PM

What do the break-up Eichel/Kane have to say about the statistical argument there that the line has been among the league’s best at even-stength?

Zemgus on that line produced 3goals at 5v5 versus the 6 goals at 5v5 that line has produced with Kane, which was together longer? 



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 01:23 PM

In 22minutes at 5v5 Zemgus - Eichel - Pommers had 3goals for and 1 against

In 86minutes at 5v5 KANE - Eichel - Pommers had 6goals for and 3 against 

 

You are talking more than 11 goals for 5v5 for that first line if they had the second lines TOI together. Granted we have a small sample size but still, odd they were broken up when they were clearly producing. 



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Posted 02 November 2017 - 07:38 PM

I personally think you need a grittier guy on that line so if you use Kane as your scorer Pommer is the wrong guy to be the third and vice versa if you have Pommer then not Kane. I know Kane can be considered gritty, but that's not really his style lately. Zemgus is much better in that role.  Bailey should be that guy too, but he just wont' use his body.



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Posted 03 November 2017 - 12:45 AM

I personally think you need a grittier guy on that line so if you use Kane as your scorer Pommer is the wrong guy to be the third and vice versa if you have Pommer then not Kane. I know Kane can be considered gritty, but that's not really his style lately. Zemgus is much better in that role.  Bailey should be that guy too, but he just wont' use his body.

Wonder if there is a guy in Rochester.. say Baptiste who could fill that bill.   Just saying... Smith may be too small, but at least he can skate.