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#1 BMWR100RT

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 07:56 AM

I pay for DirectV just so I can watch the Sabres games. I watch the Bills in my shop over a an antennae and feel I pay for it in the endless erectile disfunction and beer ads I am forced to watch. When a game is on the NFL Network I head out to watch with friends. My wife watches Game of Thrones on HBO. We spend over 1300 dolars a year on this and everything else we watch on Netflix and Amazon Prime which have their own fees.

 

With the Disney News yesterday it's clear a streaming world is the future. I want to pay to watch legally, but not 1200 dollars legally. I am sure it has been said that Center Ice blacks out local games and I am not interested in IP spoofing. I own a software company and understand rights. So does anyone know of a legal way and or have knowledge of anything coming anytime soon that would resolve this?


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:04 AM

Get a fire stick.

 

What was the Disney news yesterday?



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:08 AM

I'm in New Jersey. My buddy pays for an extra cable box at his mom's house in WNY and we use the Slingbox to watch the Bills games.

 

Get a fire stick.

 

What was the Disney news yesterday?

Disney is taking their content off Netflix and starting their own streaming service. It won't be long before everyone who whined about cable companies and wanted to pay for TV ala cart are going to get their wish. Only it's going to cost double and they will have to go to a different stupid app for each different thing they want to watch.


Yeah! More usernames and passwords!



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:10 AM

Get a fire stick.
 
What was the Disney news yesterday?


They now own a majority of BAMTech, and are planning on launching an over the top ESPN streaming service which would include the NHL.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:32 AM

So does a firestick actually allow you some way to stream the games? And is that some legal loophole or is it IP spoofing?

 

And where did you see that the NHL would be part of the ESPN Deal?



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:37 AM

https://www.cnbc.com...-services.html 



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:37 AM

I'm in New Jersey. My buddy pays for an extra cable box at his mom's house in WNY and we use the Slingbox to watch the Bills games.

 

 

My mom recently started living on her own and is in major $$$ saving mode.  I should look into doing this for her.  I have an extra tv in my house that is almost never used.  How exactly does it work and are you able to change channels at all or does that need to be done on the cable box itself?



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:37 AM

So does a firestick actually allow you some way to stream the games? And is that some legal loophole or is it IP spoofing?
 
And where did you see that the NHL would be part of the ESPN Deal?


As to the fire stick, unless you subscribe (pay for) to something allowing you to stream MSG in market, you're boned.

Disney, effective now, owns the streaming rights to the NHL. NHL.tv is now a Disney property. I've read in a few places they're going to include this, along with MLB and MLS (for which they also own the streaming rights now) in their ESPN package. There has been speculation that you could still buy all three individually, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:39 AM

Soon will be cheaper to go to a bar and watch games than actually pay to see them on tv. 



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:40 AM

Soon will be cheaper to go to a bar and watch games than actually pay to see them on tv.


2019 to be exact.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 08:58 AM

Sabre Games can be streamed on the MSG Go App with Verizon Fios. If you know someone who has Fios in WNY, make friends with them.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:16 AM

Let me see if I get the *big picture* that Disney is now going to operate under...

 

They where losing money (in their eyes) under they old cable/dish format by over charging millions of people for programs they didn't want so.....

 

They have decided to way over charge only the people that really want their programs ( which is millions fewer in number from the old way) and figure they are going to make more money?

 

I know millennials want what they want and want it now, but they are very frugal.  



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:23 AM

Let me see if I get the *big picture* that Disney is now going to operate under...

 

They where losing money (in their eyes) under they old cable/dish format by over charging millions of people for programs they didn't want so.....

 

They have decided to way over charge only the people that really want their programs ( which is millions fewer in number from the old way) and figure they are going to make more money?

 

I know millennials want what they want and want it now, but they are very frugal.  

Gotta be frugal. The housing market sucks, wages haven't kept up with inflation since the late 90's, student loan debt, no jobs and health insurance is a fortune. 


That said I will not pay for all of ESPN to watch 82 hockey games a year. Screw that noise. 



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:24 AM

Gotta be frugal. The housing market sucks, wages haven't kept up with inflation since the late 90's, student loan debt, no jobs and health insurance is a fortune. 


That said I will not pay for all of ESPN to watch 82 hockey games a year. Screw that noise. 

Damn millenials 



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:27 AM

Let me see if I get the *big picture* that Disney is now going to operate under...

 

They where losing money (in their eyes) under they old cable/dish format by over charging millions of people for programs they didn't want so.....

 

They have decided to way over charge only the people that really want their programs ( which is millions fewer in number from the old way) and figure they are going to make more money?

 

I know millennials want what they want and want it now, but they are very frugal.  

 

This has nothing to do with millennials.  Plenty of people have been sick of cable's all-or-nothing approach for a long, long time.  Cord-cutting is at an all-time high and continues to accelerate.  Companies like Disney are forced to adapt to the market's desires.


Edited by Eleven, 09 August 2017 - 09:28 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:28 AM

My mom recently started living on her own and is in major $$$ saving mode.  I should look into doing this for her.  I have an extra tv in my house that is almost never used.  How exactly does it work and are you able to change channels at all or does that need to be done on the cable box itself?

Yes, you can change the channel and even turn the cable box on/off, remotely. The cable box goes into the Slingbox (as well as a local TV if you want). You have a username and password that gets you in to the Slingbox. The quality usually depends on the upload speed. We watch all the home Bills games this way and it's pretty darn good. 

 

Initial investment of the Slingbox and ten extra bucks a month for an extra cable box,... probably pays for itself in three months.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:29 AM

Damn millenials


(Imminent sarcasm alert) well, actually, if my parents generation (Boomers) would just hurry up and die the world would be a much better place.

Actually, sarcasm alert deleted, this is completely true.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 09:54 AM

(Imminent sarcasm alert) well, actually, if my parents generation (Boomers) would just hurry up and die the world would be a much better place.

Actually, sarcasm alert deleted, this is completely true.

I'm waiting for them all to move out of their houses and into these 55+ apartment complexes that are getting built at break-neck pace so that the market will have more actual houses for sale and prices will go down. There's nowhere for me to live, but we have a bajillion gatdamn seniors-only apartments. Fill em up! 



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:21 AM

Let me see if I get the *big picture* that Disney is now going to operate under...

 

They where losing money (in their eyes) under they old cable/dish format by over charging millions of people for programs they didn't want so.....

 

They have decided to way over charge only the people that really want their programs ( which is millions fewer in number from the old way) and figure they are going to make more money?

 

I know millennials want what they want and want it now, but they are very frugal.  

 

'I want it all!! I want it all!! I want it all!! And, I want it now!!'

 

:flirt:


Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 09 August 2017 - 10:22 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:32 AM

'I want it all!! I want it all!! I want it all!! And, I want it now!!'
 
:flirt:


As much as I will agree with you on the Clash; there's a time and a place for Queen. And that is, on both accounts, never and nowhere.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:36 AM

I'm waiting for them all to move out of their houses and into these 55+ apartment complexes that are getting built at break-neck pace so that the market will have more actual houses for sale and prices will go down. There's nowhere for me to live, but we have a bajillion gatdamn seniors-only apartments. Fill em up! 

 

Every generation faces this; just relax.

 

And the media was just as harsh on Gen Xers 20 years ago as it is on millennials now.  It's all just so stupid.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:38 AM

As much as I will agree with you on the Clash; there's a time and a place for Queen. And that is, on both accounts, never and nowhere.

 

Correct.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 10:42 AM

Every generation faces this; just relax.
 
And the media was just as harsh on Gen Xers 20 years ago as it is on millennials now.  It's all just so stupid.


As a bitter Gen Xer still waiting on the boomers to go, allow me to retort. I've just been given the task or remedial training on an elder colleague. I can train him until ragarok, he's exhibiting symptoms of dementia. I will be forced to ride him out of his job, because management can't be bothered and I document impeccably. Dude should not be working. Is. No reason other than he can and ###### you young kids.

To be honest, every generation fears the one following it. Why do you think the scariest things in any horror movie are children? Because we know we will die and they will replace us.

But seriously, no generation in the entirety of human history has walked as far backwards as my parents and their peers. They need to go.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:06 AM

As much as I will agree with you on the Clash; there's a time and a place for Queen. And that is, on both accounts, never and nowhere.

 

This is just wrong.

 

Correct.

 

And, this is just more wronger.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:15 AM

As much as I will agree with you on the Clash; there's a time and a place for Queen. And that is, on both accounts, never and nowhere.

Correct.

WTF?!

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:17 AM

WTF?!


Queen is terrible.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:20 AM

Queen is terrible.

K

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:21 AM



#29 Sabersfläkt i NS

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:22 AM

Queen is terrible.

 

Now I know you float.

 

And, if it were up to me this would be a banable (short-term only, just to teach you a lesson on proper posting) offence.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:25 AM

If it makes you feel any better I appreciate Brian May's contributions to astrophysics. As long as he's not writing songs...

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:26 AM

Queen is not terrible,... but, um, that Radio Ga Ga song certainly is.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:28 AM

Queen is not terrible,... but, um, that Radio Ga Ga song certainly is.

That was the point. I have to hear that piece of hellspawn trash every single day at work! Every ###### day!!! Worst song ever! And ya know what? Bicycle can ###### off too! That song blows as well.



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:28 AM

 

I see your official video of Radio GaGa and raise you Radio GaGa - Live Aid ...

 

 

Who will take me on that Queen at Live Aid was not the best life performance in the history of live performances?



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:29 AM

That song still blows



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:30 AM

I've been to at least ten better concerts personally.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:30 AM

Not too derail the thread any further, but you guys are all nuts.

 

 

 

 

;)



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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:32 AM

Not too derail the thread any further, but you guys are all nuts.
 
 
 
 
;)


Moving it to the music thread.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:33 AM

Moving it to the music thread.

 

Then we will just turn that into a Queen is the second most awesome band ever thread.

 

I see you searching ... 


Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 09 August 2017 - 11:34 AM.


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Posted 09 August 2017 - 11:53 AM

At this point I only have high speed internet and and firestick. I am outta market, so I can watch NFL and Sabres games, but pay for NHL online every year because I often watch while at work. It is interesting discussion but I could care less about the big providers and their outrageous money raping schemes. Would rather watch local college hockey and football or affordable AHL games. There is a limit to my interest and these knuckleheads are reaching it fast. Football advertising already has... cant stand going to games anymore with all the advertisment timeout delays unless I go to a bar with friends and there are multiple games on so I can switch my attention.

PS I fall into the nether world... tail end of baby boomers, beginning of gen Xers. Hate babyboomers too so guess Im more a genxer. They cant die soon enough.

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Posted 09 August 2017 - 12:02 PM

PS I fall into the nether world... tail end of baby boomers, beginning of gen Xers. Hate babyboomers too so guess Im more a genxer. They cant die soon enough.


Same age and feelings here. Greedy bastages managed to screw things up for at least the next 2 generations.

As for watching hockey. I wont pay cables prices. Granted, the Sabres have been uninteresting for about 5 years now so I take comfort in knowing I wasnt missing much.