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#81 GASabresIUFAN

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 01:31 PM

I think we have to replace most of the Wilsons with players that could be more than a Wilson.
There is always the possibility of trades and waivers, but Larsson and Girgs and Pommers and ERod are under contract next year.
So logically it’s the other four who would go first to make room for fresh faces.


Every team has some Wilsons for cap reasons. You can’t consistently pay 4th liners $5 mill and compete long-term. Frankly of the signed Wilsons, I want to part with Larsson. We need better center play on the bottom 2 lines.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 03:41 PM

Maybe there's no cap pressure if you like your team, but if you want to sign new players with better attitudes you need to create cap room. 



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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:21 PM

Maybe there's no cap pressure if you like your team, but if you want to sign new players with better attitudes you need to create cap room.


You can remake a roster/lockerroom two ways. One swap veteran A for vet B (either through trade or by signing FAs) or by letting vets walk and replacing them with coachable kids who learned to win in the minors. I suspect we’ll see a lot more of plan B vs plan A going forward.

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Posted 13 February 2018 - 07:28 PM

Maybe there's no cap pressure if you like your team, but if you want to sign new players with better attitudes you need to create cap room.

We will have cap room regardless. There aren't any high priced ufa's breaking the bank. Tavares won't hit the market and if he does, he's not picking buffalo

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 02:29 AM

We will have cap room regardless. There aren't any high priced ufa's breaking the bank. Tavares won't hit the market and if he does, he's not picking buffalo

Green?  He's 32 but might fit in the system perfectly as a leader for the D. 



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:18 AM

Would like to see Wilson stay and Baptiste get a bottom 6 role full time, hopefully fasching and bailey also find spots but wonder if one will be used in a trade in the next 12 days?



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:37 AM

Green? He's 32 but might fit in the system perfectly as a leader for the D.

And we could sign him. He isn't getting a ton of money at age 32. Personally, I'm not interested in green.

He's worth what? 6 on the market.

Edited by SkuggaLiger, 14 February 2018 - 07:39 AM.


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Posted 14 February 2018 - 09:11 AM

Green?  He's 32 but might fit in the system perfectly as a leader for the D.


Any interest in John Carlson?
Or is it generally accepted he re-signs with the Caps?

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 05:47 PM

The Caps can ill afford to let him go. That said, if he becomes available, I'd go for it. He won't come here (because Buffalo :w00t: ), but they should certainly inquire.

The defense is really shaping up for next season. Scandella, Risto, McCabe and Guhle are all under contract. Nelson (RFA), assuming this is now the real Nelson, looks like another piece for next season. That leaves one opening. (How Jbot disposes of Bogo and Baloo, if he can, will make for an interesting off-season discussion. I'd rather re-sign Falk and Antipin as the 7th and 8th guys.

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Posted 14 February 2018 - 07:16 PM

If you are really trying to fully bring in Housley's system, you can't have enough good D men and the D has to be a core strength. It's improved, but if it added Green (or Carlson but unlikely) and Dahlin (dream) would anyone not think we had a solid playoff shot next year?  



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:06 PM

If you are really trying to fully bring in Housley's system, you can't have enough good D men and the D has to be a core strength. It's improved, but if it added Green (or Carlson but unlikely) and Dahlin (dream) would anyone not think we had a solid playoff shot next year?  

 

Love the optimism but...



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Posted 14 February 2018 - 11:13 PM

I would love to see consistently decent hockey so that I don’t have to fast forward through the games.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 04:09 AM

Love the optimism but...


Big turnarounds do happen. And the better this team finishes the season, the smaller that turnaround will need to be. I think playoffs are unlikely, but I do know I would want Botterill to, at summer’s end, believe the team he’s sending out there does have a shot at making it.

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Posted 15 February 2018 - 07:16 AM

Big turnarounds do happen. And the better this team finishes the season, the smaller that turnaround will need to be. I think playoffs are unlikely, but I do know I would want Botterill to, at summer’s end, believe the team he’s sending out there does have a shot at making it.

Would love a chance at trying to land Jack Hughes next year but we cant keep doing this, we have to start winning more and hopefully having a chance at the playoffs



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Posted 16 February 2018 - 02:17 PM

Holy ######!

Did you guys realize the Sabres lost 20 of Nathan Beaulieu’s first 22 games here?
A recent 5 and 4 run has pushed us to a 9 and 31 record overall with him in the lineup.

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Posted 16 February 2018 - 02:51 PM

Would love a chance at trying to land Jack Hughes next year but we cant keep doing this, we have to start winning more and hopefully having a chance at the playoffs

 

 

if they do have a chance, hopefully its less than a 3% chance.


Holy ######!

Did you guys realize the Sabres lost 20 of Nathan Beaulieu’s first 22 games here?
A recent 5 and 4 run has pushed us to a 9 and 31 record overall with him in the lineup.

 

Ive said it before, he is the number 1 guy i do not want on next years roster.



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Posted 16 February 2018 - 04:08 PM

if they do have a chance, hopefully its less than a 3% chance.


 

Ive said it before, he is the number 1 guy i do not want on next years roster.

The funny thing is I think this kid still has real potential.  He'll likely be our 7th or 8th D next season, so you won;t have to worry about seeing him to much unless he improves like Nelson has.



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 01:12 PM

Offseason from fantasy land - buckle up.

 

The Sabres are blessed and win the right to draft Rasmus Dahlin. 

They trade that right with Ryan O'Reilly and Alex Nylander to St. Louis, a team looking  for changes after sliding out of a playoff spot despite leading their division for months. In return, the Sabres acquire Vince Dunn, Vladimir Sobotka, Joel Edmundson, and the big prize, Colton Parayko. The Sabres trade Rasmus Ristolainen, Casey Mittelstadt, and two seconds to Carolina for Sebastian Aho and Jordan Staal. 

 

The Sabres sign John Tavares to a large contract. They Sign Letestu and Pateryn to smaller contracts. They also acquire Grubauer.

 

Aho - Eichel - Rodrigues

xxx - Tavares - Reinhart

xxx - Staal - Okposo

Sobotka - Letestu - Girgensons

 

Kids fight for those two left wing slots.

 

Scandella - Parayko

Edmundson - Dunn

Antipin - Nelson

 

Grubauer 

Ullmark

 

Who isn't watching come October 2018???

lol


Carolina wouldn't take that trade, I might need to up the ante somehow. Next year's first too. 



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 02:48 PM

Offseason from fantasy land - buckle up.
 
The Sabres are blessed and win the right to draft Rasmus Dahlin. 
They trade that right with Ryan O'Reilly and Alex Nylander to St. Louis, a team looking  for changes after sliding out of a playoff spot despite leading their division for months. In return, the Sabres acquire Vince Dunn, Vladimir Sobotka, Joel Edmundson, and the big prize, Colton Parayko. The Sabres trade Rasmus Ristolainen, Casey Mittelstadt, and two seconds to Carolina for Sebastian Aho and Jordan Staal. 
 
The Sabres sign John Tavares to a large contract. They Sign Letestu and Pateryn to smaller contracts. They also acquire Grubauer.
 
Aho - Eichel - Rodrigues
xxx - Tavares - Reinhart
xxx - Staal - Okposo
Sobotka - Letestu - Girgensons
 
Kids fight for those two left wing slots.
 
Scandella - Parayko
Edmundson - Dunn
Antipin - Nelson
 
Grubauer 
Ullmark
 
Who isn't watching come October 2018???
lolCarolina wouldn't take that trade, I might need to up the ante somehow. Next year's first too.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 03:17 PM

My thoughts on 2018-2019.

 

This line up assumes players in the organization today.  Hopefully, they will sign a couple of UFAs and maybe get Dahlin.

  1. Buy out Moulson and Pominville – It will eat up cap space for the next two years, but with the influx of young players the cap should not be a problem for two years.  Let’s give the young ones the ice time.
  2. Re-sign 2 of the current UFAs (Nelson and Johnson).  Nelson has been very good and is a right shot.  Johnson can spell Ullmark in net.
  3. Girgensons/Larsson – Pick one and trade the other.
  4. Middlestadt is on the big club as is Nylander.
  5. Get rid of Bowl-loo.

Your 2018 – 2019 Buffalo Sabres

 

C. J. Smith           Eichel                   Reinhart

Nylander              ROR                     Okposo

O’Regan              Middlestadt           E-Rod   

Wilson                  Girgs/Larry           Baptiste

 

Scandella                                          Nelson

Guhle                                                Risto

McCabe                                            Bogo

 

Ullmark

Johnson


Edited by Tondas, 03 March 2018 - 03:20 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 04:15 PM

My thoughts on 2018-2019.

 

This line up assumes players in the organization today.  Hopefully, they will sign a couple of UFAs and maybe get Dahlin.

  1. Buy out Moulson and Pominville – It will eat up cap space for the next two years, but with the influx of young players the cap should not be a problem for two years.  Let’s give the young ones the ice time.
  2. Re-sign 2 of the current UFAs (Nelson and Johnson).  Nelson has been very good and is a right shot.  Johnson can spell Ullmark in net.
  3. Girgensons/Larsson – Pick one and trade the other.
  4. Middlestadt is on the big club as is Nylander.
  5. Get rid of Bowl-loo.

Your 2018 – 2019 Buffalo Sabres

 

C. J. Smith           Eichel                   Reinhart

Nylander              ROR                     Okposo

O’Regan              Middlestadt           E-Rod   

Wilson                  Girgs/Larry           Baptiste

 

Scandella                                          Nelson

Guhle                                                Risto

McCabe                                            Bogo

 

Ullmark

Johnson

hopefully our 2018 first rounder will also slot in there, whoever that may be??



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:14 PM

Offseason from fantasy land - buckle up.
 
The Sabres are blessed and win the right to draft Rasmus Dahlin. 
They trade that right with Ryan O'Reilly and Alex Nylander to St. Louis, a team looking  for changes after sliding out of a playoff spot despite leading their division for months. In return, the Sabres acquire Vince Dunn, Vladimir Sobotka, Joel Edmundson, and the big prize, Colton Parayko. The Sabres trade Rasmus Ristolainen, Casey Mittelstadt, and two seconds to Carolina for Sebastian Aho and Jordan Staal. 
 
The Sabres sign John Tavares to a large contract. They Sign Letestu and Pateryn to smaller contracts. They also acquire Grubauer.
 
Aho - Eichel - Rodrigues
xxx - Tavares - Reinhart
xxx - Staal - Okposo
Sobotka - Letestu - Girgensons
 
Kids fight for those two left wing slots.
 
Scandella - Parayko
Edmundson - Dunn
Antipin - Nelson
 
Grubauer 
Ullmark
 
Who isn't watching come October 2018???
lolCarolina wouldn't take that trade, I might need to up the ante somehow. Next year's first too.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 05:52 PM

Offseason from fantasy land - buckle up.

 

The Sabres are blessed and win the right to draft Rasmus Dahlin. 

They trade that right with Ryan O'Reilly and Alex Nylander to St. Louis, a team looking  for changes after sliding out of a playoff spot despite leading their division for months. In return, the Sabres acquire Vince Dunn, Vladimir Sobotka, Joel Edmundson, and the big prize, Colton Parayko. The Sabres trade Rasmus Ristolainen, Casey Mittelstadt, and two seconds to Carolina for Sebastian Aho and Jordan Staal. 

 

The Sabres sign John Tavares to a large contract. They Sign Letestu and Pateryn to smaller contracts. They also acquire Grubauer.

 

Aho - Eichel - Rodrigues

xxx - Tavares - Reinhart

xxx - Staal - Okposo

Sobotka - Letestu - Girgensons

 

Kids fight for those two left wing slots.

 

Scandella - Parayko

Edmundson - Dunn

Antipin - Nelson

 

Grubauer 

Ullmark

 

Who isn't watching come October 2018???

lol


Carolina wouldn't take that trade, I might need to up the ante somehow. Next year's first too. 

 

The second trade to Carolina, makes absolutely no sense.  Pass. 



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 06:02 PM

The second trade to Carolina, makes absolutely no sense.  Pass. 

Why? Aho is elite at 20 years old, and Staal is a very good two way center. Risto suxxxxx. 



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 09:51 PM

The Sabres trade Rasmus Ristolainen, Casey Mittelstadt, 

 

 

No.

 

 

My thoughts on 2018-2019.

 

This line up assumes players in the organization today.  Hopefully, they will sign a couple of UFAs and maybe get Dahlin.

  1. Buy out Moulson and Pominville – It will eat up cap space for the next two years, but with the influx of young players the cap should not be a problem for two years.  Let’s give the young ones the ice time.
  2. Re-sign 2 of the current UFAs (Nelson and Johnson).  Nelson has been very good and is a right shot.  Johnson can spell Ullmark in net.
  3. Girgensons/Larsson – Pick one and trade the other.
  4. Middlestadt is on the big club as is Nylander.
  5. Get rid of Bowl-loo.

Your 2018 – 2019 Buffalo Sabres

 

C. J. Smith           Eichel                   Reinhart

Nylander              ROR                     Okposo

O’Regan              Middlestadt           E-Rod   

Wilson                  Girgs/Larry           Baptiste

 

Scandella                                          Nelson

Guhle                                                Risto

McCabe                                            Bogo

 

Ullmark

Johnson

 

This lineup is a little more reasonable to me. I'm just going to make some slight tweaks.

 

-Put Reinhart on the ROR line to start with. He's more than capable of being a top liner, but I'd like to see him see if he can prove if the last couple of months are for real. Likewise, Okposo has looked very good when teamed with Eichel.

-I want Nylander to succeed, but I'm not convinced he should be allowed to start next season the 4th line, let alone 2nd.

-Preferably, Sabres win the lotto. Realistically, they end up in the top 5 and can still land a quality NHL-ready forward.

-I'd prefer Mittlestadt at least start the year in Rochester, unless he proves that the AHL is just too easy for him.

-I feel like JBots will make at least one quality FA signing. I'll just put Tavares in as a a placeholder.

-Personally, Keep Girgos over Larsson. I just love that klutzy Latvian.

 

So with that said:

 

MY 2018 – 2019 Buffalo Sabres

 

Tavares                Eichel                   Okposo

Svechnikov          ROR                     Reinhart

C.J. Smith            O'Regan               E-Rod   

Wilson                  Girgensons           Baptiste

 

Scandella                                          Nelson 

Guhle                                                Risto

McCabe                                            Antipin

 

Ullmark

Johnson


Edited by Ho-Chi-Sock, 03 March 2018 - 09:52 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 09:59 PM

I wasn't aiming to be "reasonable", hence labeling it as a "fantasy land offseason"...


Also Aho and Staal has more value than Risto and Casey, just saying

 

A 20 year old star that's going to have 70 points this year on an offensively challenged team, drives play heavily by himself, and one of the best defensive centers in the game, for a power play defenseman that gets caved in when he's on the ice and a prospect whose post draft production is reminiscent of Tyson Jost



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:23 PM

Why? Aho is elite at 20 years old, and Staal is a very good two way center. Risto suxxxxx. 

 

 

I wasn't aiming to be "reasonable", hence labeling it as a "fantasy land offseason"...


Also Aho and Staal has more value than Risto and Casey, just saying

 

A 20 year old star that's going to have 70 points this year on an offensively challenged team, drives play heavily by himself, and one of the best defensive centers in the game, for a power play defenseman that gets caved in when he's on the ice and a prospect whose post draft production is reminiscent of Tyson Jost

 

OMG Steve Burtch posts on Sabrespace!!! :nana:

 

The Sabres obviously have to stop pretending that Risto is Subban/Karlsson/Doughty, but he's posting a positive relative Corsi for the first time in his career. Blip? Maybe. But I think it has more to do with playing with not-Gorges/McCabe. And it's not like Scandella is the type that can lug an anchor around the ice either; he's just good enough to provide a certain level of competence on the left side.

 

That said, I think the value is pretty fair...but I really don't want Staal's contract on the books unless I can flip Okposo somewhere.


Edited by TrueBlueGED, 03 March 2018 - 10:26 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:27 PM

OMG Steve Burtch posts on Sabrespace!!! :nana:

 

The Sabres obviously have to stop pretending that Risto is Subban/Karlsson/Doughty, but he's posting a positive relative Corsi for the first time in his career. Blip? Maybe. But I think it has more to do with playing with not-Gorges/McCabe. And it's not like Scandella is the type that can lug an anchor around the ice either; he's just good enough to provide a certain level of competence on the left side.

 

That said, I think the value is pretty fair...but I really don't want Staal's contract on the books unless I can flip Okposo somewhere.

Oh I'm sure the contracts are a nightmare in my scenario haha. I have no clue what Parayko is signed at or if he's due for a mammoth increase soon. 

It would be so nice to win that draft lottery though. 



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:29 PM

Can’t afford to trade Risto without a replacement coming.
Staal is exactly what this team needs.

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:31 PM

Didn't you see Duda? We're adding Parayko, Edmundson, and Dunn in exchange for Risto back there!



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:31 PM

Can’t afford to trade Risto without a replacement coming.
Staal is exactly what this team needs.

 

I'm curious as to your logic here.



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:35 PM

Also, Aho-Eichel would eventually become a franchise staple pairing like LaFontaine-Mogilny, and the French Connection


I'm curious as to your logic here.

Probably a leader who can take minutes which allow us to use our second best offensive player, not in some of the hardest minutes in the league. 


I think using ROR the way we do screams low-event still, and I don't think he's magically preventing enough goals by himself to be worth not using him with Eichel, or him and Eichel separately, in situations to maximize their offensive skill. It'd be sick to build a legit defensive line with Staal/Sobotka type players who can actually excel against top competition so that we can let Eichel and ROR feast. Hell, stick them together. Bergeron-Marchand-Pasta isn't exactly hurting Boston being top heavy. They're absurdly good together. 


Edited by Randall Flagg, 03 March 2018 - 10:35 PM.


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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:35 PM

Also, Aho-Eichel would eventually become a franchise staple pairing like LaFontaine-Mogilny, and the French Connection


Probably a leader who can take minutes which allow us to use our second best offensive player, not in some of the hardest minutes in the league. 

 

I definitely agree we could use a 3rd center to ease the defensive burden on O'Reilly, but that's a spot I'd prefer to get some value...or at least avoid a contract with the longer-term cliff scenario Staal carries.

 

...and particularly if we added Tavares, I'm not sure I'd give a flying F who else played center for us :lol:



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 10:40 PM

I definitely agree we could use a 3rd center to ease the defensive burden on O'Reilly, but that's a spot I'd prefer to get some value...or at least avoid a contract with the longer-term cliff scenario Staal carries.

 

...and particularly if we added Tavares, I'm not sure I'd give a flying F who else played center for us :lol:

Rasmus Asplund swooping out of nowhere and winning that roster spot in camp

(He's my favorite forward prospect on this team (not the one I think is best necessarily, but my favorite player) and I so so hope he works out the way it looks like he could)



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Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:08 PM

Really wish GMTM would have said yes to Risto for Hall a few summers ago

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Posted 03 March 2018 - 11:37 PM

I'm curious as to your logic here.


Vet. Cup winner. Tough to play against. Young enough to still play and command respect. Can carry a developing winger. Huge improvement to our third and fourth lines.

Jack Kyle, Ryan Sam, Staal Casey, Larry Girgs.
I’m sure we we can find the other four guys out of Wilson, Smith, ERod, Nylander, Fasching, Bailey, Baptiste, and O’Reagan

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 12:50 AM

We need to stop wanting to Tim Murray this roster. We need some stability. We need to decide on a core and keep it. I think Risto, Sam, Casey are part of that core and build around them.

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Posted 04 March 2018 - 01:18 AM

We need to stop wanting to Tim Murray this roster. We need some stability. We need to decide on a core and keep it. I think Risto, Sam, Casey are part of that core and build around them.

Chilllllllllllll

"fantasy land"

 

Nobody is being serious aside from the guys with the boring moves that you'd approve of


Although if we could pull off those exact moves...A core of Eichel-ROR-Risto-Reinhart-Scandella-Dahlin can't touch a core of Eichel-Tavares-Parayko-Aho-Reinhart-Staal-Edmundson-Scandella

 

But again, "fantasy land"