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#41 Randall Flagg

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:00 PM

This might be unfair, but I'm going to assume True is in and just is busy with stuff. 

If he keeps dragging his ass and we pass 20, however, he's out. 



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:04 PM

why don't we just do a fantasy hockey league... it's basically the same thing

Probably because the point of this is to pass the time when hockey isn't happening, the several month chasm between now and when fantasy hockey can actually exist.

Aren't there usually two fantasy hockey leagues anyway? People can then use this as their rankings if they so choose. 



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:41 PM

Aren't there usually two fantasy hockey leagues anyway? People can then use this as their rankings if they so choose. 

Good point. The final comprehensive list could definitely help people catch players others are missing in some fantasy draft later on this summer/fall.


Also, I know nfreeman only gets on specific times of day, so I'm softly reserving a spot for him like for True, because he was really into the last one we did and almost missed it (Eleven offered him one of the two spots he had). 



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:57 PM

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It took me about 1.5 hours to get my Atlantic Division list finalized, shown above (and left blurry intentionally). You wouldn't think a broken pinky could make writing so hard.

 

I'll do the same for the other 3 and make a mega-list to make my draft picks easy. 

 

Maybe if people want, every 20-30 picks or so I can throw out a random list of names that I have left, out of order, that would generally be accepted as the current tier in which we are picking, to make sure we don't forget any big names (for example, the amount of times I forget Claude Giroux exists is not close to being proportional to how good of a player he is). Or not. I don't want to actively influence anyone's preference, unless you're picking Toews.


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 09:17 PM

Giroux is a player a always forget about and idk why. Maybe it's Phillies general meh-ness over the last few years.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 10:19 PM

Looking at our list 2 years ago...yeah, the NHL has changed a crap ton. 

 

When we're all done, I'll list the full roster of picks and how far they rose/fell, it's going to be crazy.



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 10:42 PM

And Taro also managed to find the missing draft thread when WC was looking for it last year :lol:



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:29 AM

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It took me about 1.5 hours to get my Atlantic Division list finalized, shown above (and left blurry intentionally). You wouldn't think a broken pinky could make writing so hard.

 

I'll do the same for the other 3 and make a mega-list to make my draft picks easy. 

 

Maybe if people want, every 20-30 picks or so I can throw out a random list of names that I have left, out of order, that would generally be accepted as the current tier in which we are picking, to make sure we don't forget any big names (for example, the amount of times I forget Claude Giroux exists is not close to being proportional to how good of a player he is). Or not. I don't want to actively influence anyone's preference, unless you're picking Toews.

Give us a little credit.  Your list isn't the end all be all :P



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:42 AM

Give us a little credit.  Your list isn't the end all be all :P

That's what the rest of the paragraph is for! For example, last time Brad Marchand went 164th, Holtby 129th, Brodie 144th while Zemgus was taken 39th and Ennis 80th. Brad hadn't broken out yet, but he was still miles ahead of the two Sabres, Brodie had just broken out as a top 2 D, Holtby had had 4 seasons of .920+ SP%. If our list is full of stuff like that, then it doesn't really have much value as a player ranking. Of course, I definitely trust you guys, so it's not like I'd be throwing out the order you should post because I say so, it'd be more of like a "there are still 15 forwards left in the top 50 of scoring last year jsyk" type of deal. But also I can definitely just avoid doing anything like that.

 

And let's be patient with this, it took almost two weeks I think last time, sometimes people get busy!


So now we have me, Eleven, WC, ubkev, Taro, Thorny, NS, GA, North Buffalo, maybe Sabills, dudacek, EichSnipe, IrwinNelson, Derrico, pi2000, TrueBlueGED* and nfreeman*.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:55 AM

That's what the rest of the paragraph is for! For example, last time Brad Marchand went 164th, Holtby 129th, Brodie 144th while Zemgus was taken 39th and Ennis 80th. Brad hadn't broken out yet, but he was still miles ahead of the two Sabres, Brodie had just broken out as a top 2 D, Holtby had had 4 seasons of .920+ SP%. If our list is full of stuff like that, then it doesn't really have much value as a player ranking. Of course, I definitely trust you guys, so it's not like I'd be throwing out the order you should post because I say so, it'd be more of like a "there are still 15 forwards left in the top 50 of scoring last year jsyk" type of deal. But also I can definitely just avoid doing anything like that.

 

And let's be patient with this, it took almost two weeks I think last time, sometimes people get busy!


So now we have So far it's me, Eleven, WC, ubkev, Taro, Thorny, NS, GA, North Buffalo, maybe Sabills, dudacek, EichSnipe, IrwinNelson, Derrico, pi2000, TrueBlueGED* and nfreeman*.

Wait did you say Zemgus was taken 39th?  Oh man I hope that wasn't me!

 

Oh ya it's a lonnnnnnng summer before meaningful hockey discussion.  This draft doesn't have to be completed in a day or two that's for sure. 


Edited by Derrico, 13 July 2017 - 09:56 AM.


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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:56 AM

Wait did you say Zemgus was taken 39th?  Oh man I hope that wasn't me!

 

Oh ya it's a lonnnnnnng summer before meaningful hockey discussion.  This draft doesn't have to be completed in a day or two that's for sure. 

It was Whiskeyyyyyyy. 



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:02 AM

It was Whiskeyyyyyyy.


Yes, I'd be blaming it on the drink too...

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 10:12 AM

It was Whiskeyyyyyyy. 

Just read some of the thread.  That was fun.



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:38 AM

The Pacific Division is loaded with defensemen. Holy cow. 



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 12:48 PM

The Pacific Division is loaded with defensemen. Holy cow.


And a lot of terrible teams, too.....

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 04:29 PM

Flagg, I'm going to have to drop out. I have an appt a 3pm tomorrow.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 04:31 PM

Flagg, I'm going to have to drop out. I have an appt a 3pm tomorrow.

No no no no. This thing takes a long time. You might not even be up for a pick for a day or two. It isn;t a fast thing!



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 04:47 PM

No no no no. This thing takes a long time. You might not even be up for a pick for a day or two. It isn;t a fast thing!


Ok, i'm back in. i thought we were going to do this pretty rapidly, almost like a fantasy draft.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 05:06 PM

Ok, i'm back in. i thought we were going to do this pretty rapidly, almost like a fantasy draft.

Haha understandable. We were over 2 weeks last time!



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 06:52 PM

No rush man. Last one took like 4 days just for liger to make his first pick.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 07:52 PM

No rush man. Last one took like 4 days just for liger to make his first pick.


And that was with him online for 43 of those 96 hours.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 07:58 PM

And that was with him online for 43 of those 96 hours.


He was waiting for the market to set.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:26 PM

Plenty of room left!



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:45 PM

He was waiting for the market to set.

 

He also couldn't figure out how to work the fax machine.


Plenty of room left!

 

The deadline to signup is tomorrow, right?

 

When will the draft start?



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:50 PM

He also couldn't figure out how to work the fax machine.


 

The deadline to signup is tomorrow, right?

 

When will the draft start?

Right, tomorrow at 2:30pm.

 

As soon as I can get to a computer after that deadline, I will put every member participating on a list and randomize it, and whoever has the first pick after that moment can make their selection as soon as they're ready. 



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:54 PM

Right, tomorrow at 2:30pm.

 

As soon as I can get to a computer after that deadline, I will put every member participating on a list and randomize it, and whoever has the first pick after that moment can make their selection as soon as they're ready. 

 

Cool.

 

Oh, I'm ready alright.



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 08:56 PM

Cool.

 

Oh, I'm ready alright.

If you pick Ehlers or Fucale first I'm kicking you out  :nana:



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 09:00 PM

FUCALE!!

 

EHLERS!!



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:53 AM

I printed out all the team rosters tonite and am going to go thru them tomorrow during slow times at work... oh wait that is today.... I hate doubles.  Should be completed by the overnite going into Saturday morning.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 04:25 AM

With the number of pregnant 13 year olds and the amount of pre-eclampsia tonight, I am sure tomorrow will be the same, I would love to join, but unfortunately don't have the time to really put together a list, and after the 15 players I know from memory are shot, so am I

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 06:32 AM

Is there going to be one catch all thread for this (i.e. picks and discussion go in the same thread)?

Or should we break it up.. one thread for all the discussion and inevitable disagreement over some picks. Then one thread that people can subscribe to for the picks. That would give people email updates and might move things faster. Or do some of you check this place more than email? :P

I'm fine either way. Just tossing out the idea.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:09 AM

I'm in and will again be assembling the best group.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 11:47 AM

i'm out



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:04 PM

i'm out

Was really hoping you'd do an entire team based off of +/-

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 12:57 PM

Was really hoping you'd do an entire team based off of +/-

I'd kill to build my team around Jason Zucker :P 

So, no more Pi, and freeman confirmed. Any last-second entries are welcome!


Is there going to be one catch all thread for this (i.e. picks and discussion go in the same thread)?

Or should we break it up.. one thread for all the discussion and inevitable disagreement over some picks. Then one thread that people can subscribe to for the picks. That would give people email updates and might move things faster. Or do some of you check this place more than email? :P

I'm fine either way. Just tossing out the idea.

I like the way the last thread went, where every few picks dudacek or Hoss would repost an updated list, using the spoiler tag so scrolling is minimal.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:14 PM

Oh, hell, I'll chuxk the hat in if you need numbers.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:18 PM

G-d i hate BPA

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:19 PM

Flagg, Eleven, WC, ubkev, Taro, Thorny, NS, GA, North Buffalo, maybe Sabills, dudacek, EichSnipe, IrwinNelson, Derrico, nfreeman, Sabres79 and possibly True if he ever decides to read this thread or the PM I sent.

 
sabills, any update on which way youre leaning?


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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:21 PM

Flagg, Eleven, WC, ubkev, Taro, Thorny, NS, GA, North Buffalo, maybe Sabills, dudacek, EichSnipe, IrwinNelson, Derrico, nfreeman, Sabres79 and possibly True if he ever decides to read this thread or the PM I sent.
 
sabills, any update on which way youre leaning?

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 01:26 PM

Alright, I'll go first ...

 

With the first selection in the second, but not exactly annual, great SabreSpace draftoff the team from Halifax, Nova Scotia is pleased to select ..........