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#81 Radar

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 06:03 PM

I know it's a message board, and chattering and spit balling ideas are what get done around here, but the idea of anyone other than Eichel as the team's next captain is ludacrisp. It's over-thinking the matter, and being too cute by more than half.
 
I'm not even 100% convinced it will work. Point of the matter is: It has to be him, and now. For good or for ill, it's gotta be him. This is his team. And I think it's evident that he wants it.

Respectfully disagree. Key word team. This is a team. EICHEL is not the team.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 06:11 PM

I want to see Jack finish a season without regretting quitting on it before naming him captain of anything.



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 06:12 PM

I want to see Jack finish a season without regretting quitting on it before naming him captain of anything.

 

Exactly. 



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 06:22 PM

SGM?

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:42 PM

I want to see Jack finish a season without regretting quitting on it before naming him captain of anything.

See I view his rebellion as being a leader. Leaders shouldn't follow a system that clearly isn't working it. What Bylsma was doing was garbage. How Jack rebelled was immature, but the act of doing it was not. I think we need to recognize that if Jack is named captain, he'll need to grow into it. I believe that growing into it means Jack maturing. Others can help him on that path but he's the guy to walk it.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:47 PM

Agreed. Even more so when reading the bolded in Gandalf's voice.

 



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:49 PM

Lol see that's proper YouTube use right there.

Edited by ShadowLiger, 12 July 2017 - 07:50 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:52 PM

I think you give it to the guy who you want the team to look up to.... giving the C to somebody can change the way they play, their mannerisms, how much they lead.     

That said, give it Eichel now and I think we'll see some positive results in his consistency, play away from the puck, interviews, etc...



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:55 PM

I think you give it to the guy who you want the team to look up to.... giving the C to somebody can change the way they play, their mannerisms, how much they lead.
That said, give it Eichel now and I think we'll see some positive results in his consistency, play away from the puck, interviews, etc...

That's what I'm thinking.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 07:58 PM

That's what I'm thinking.

 

...and ROR is hard enough on himself without shouldering the added responsibility of Captain... he might need professional mental help if he has a bad game.


Edited by pi2000, 12 July 2017 - 07:59 PM.


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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:08 PM

...and ROR is hard enough on himself without shouldering the added responsibility of Captain... he might need professional mental help if he has a bad game.

I want to stress that this is through seven different grapevines, and is very vague, and should be taken as such - with the smallest grain of salt in the world. But I've heard through seven grapevines that someone who knows ROR said to someone to someone etc. that our perception of his obsessive drive to better himself to the point where it's too far is true, using the words "like, he's messed up" to describe it. 

 

We love you just the way you are, ROR.



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:11 PM

ROR is amazing and I'd give him a hug if I could. Glad he has the drive but mental health is important.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:13 PM

I want to stress that this is through seven different grapevines, and is very vague, and should be taken as such - with the smallest grain of salt in the world. But I've heard through seven grapevines that someone who knows ROR said to someone to someone etc. that our perception of his obsessive drive to better himself to the point where it's too far is true, using the words "like, he's messed up" to describe it.

We love you just the way you are, ROR.


Damn.

Maybe his father's serial adoption of multiple foster sons took a toll on ol' Snook's self-esteem.

(That might be the worst thing I've ever thought, let alone typed here. It is intended as a joke - a rough one in the vein of Louis CK.)

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:14 PM

That's what I'm thinking.

I've been on the fence. Leaning towards ROR simply because I feel he has the room to grow into the role. I could also see it as a plus for Jack. I could also see ROR at C bring good for Jack as well.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:15 PM

Again, I don't want anyone coming to conclusions about the state of ROR's mental health, for his own personal privacy and to avoid the libel stuff yaddah yaddah. Not saying anyone has done that or said anything out of line here. I probably just shouldn't have said anything at all.



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:21 PM

Again, I don't want anyone coming to conclusions about the state of ROR's mental health, for his own personal privacy and to avoid the libel stuff yaddah yaddah. Not saying anyone has done that or said anything out of line here. I probably just shouldn't have said anything at all.

ROR is fine. Everyone has baggage. We overcome it by acknowledging it. We move on. We win Cups. Right?

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:25 PM

ROR is fine. Everyone has baggage. We overcome it by acknowledging it. We move on. We win Cups. Right?

All the Cups.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:32 PM

All the Cups.

Every single friggin one.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:40 PM

Again, I don't want anyone coming to conclusions about the state of ROR's mental health, for his own personal privacy and to avoid the libel stuff yaddah yaddah. Not saying anyone has done that or said anything out of line here. I probably just shouldn't have said anything at all.

 

It's interesting to hear that he's obsessive about improving himself, but I'm not concerned about his mental stability..... maybe if he becomes Caption tho, haha.     

 

I'm going to share some of my personal experience....   I too had a similar mental state when I played competitively... it certainly had it's benefits but looking back I feel like I alienated some teammates because I was overly focused on my own play and less about how others were handling things... especially as a returning player in my junior/senior years.   Sleepless nights thinking about what I did wrong on the ice, visualizing how to improve things in my head pretty much all day long, blaming myself for losses to the nth degree.  

 

My parents taught me that anything is possible if you just worked hard enough at it, so I felt like I could always be better if I just worked more, spent more and more time on it to the point of it becoming an obsession.    Shouldering the blame for a loss because I didn't work hard enough at something that might have resulted in a difference making goal or preventing a goal.  Then spend days on end obsessing about how to fix it.   I'm sure a lot of players are that way to a degree.     When it's your job and you're at the rink every single day for seasons on end, it's pretty much all you think about all the time and it defines who you are.., it's what you do, what you're there for... your sense of self worth revolves around it entirely so you better work at it as hard as you can, or quit the game and do something else.  



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 08:47 PM

It's interesting to hear that he's obsessive about improving himself, but I'm not concerned about his mental stability..... maybe if he becomes Caption tho, haha.

I'm going to share some of my personal experience.... I too had a similar mental state when I played competitively... it certainly had it's benefits but looking back I feel like I alienated some teammates because I was overly focused on my own play and less about how others were handling things... especially as a returning player in my junior/senior years. Sleepless nights thinking about what I did wrong on the ice, visualizing how to improve things in my head pretty much all day long, blaming myself for losses to the nth degree.

My parents taught me that anything is possible if you just worked hard enough at it, so I felt like I could always be better if I just worked more, spent more and more time on it to the point of it becoming an obsession. Shouldering the blame for a loss because I didn't work hard enough at something that might have resulted in a difference making goal or preventing a goal. Then spend days on end obsessing about how to fix it. I'm sure a lot of players are that way to a degree. When it's your job and you're at the rink every single day for seasons on end, it's pretty much all you think about all the time and it defines who you are.., it's what you do, what you're there for... your sense of self worth revolves around it entirely so you better work at it as hard as you can, or quit the game and do something else.


I just shuddered at the thought of you recording a negative +/- one game... :P

I kid, of course. Thanks for sharing this experience and others. You and others often make me wish I had played.

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Posted 12 July 2017 - 11:18 PM

Lol see that's proper YouTube use right there.

 

I'll reserve judgment until I finish watching the video.



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Posted 12 July 2017 - 11:37 PM

I'll reserve judgment until I finish watching the video.


:lol:

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 01:20 AM

ROR crashed into a Tim Ho''s.

If Jack is the future, he is the C.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 06:31 AM

It's interesting to hear that he's obsessive about improving himself, but I'm not concerned about his mental stability..... maybe if he becomes Caption tho, haha.     
 
I'm going to share some of my personal experience....   I too had a similar mental state when I played competitively... it certainly had it's benefits but looking back I feel like I alienated some teammates because I was overly focused on my own play and less about how others were handling things... especially as a returning player in my junior/senior years.   Sleepless nights thinking about what I did wrong on the ice, visualizing how to improve things in my head pretty much all day long, blaming myself for losses to the nth degree.  
 
My parents taught me that anything is possible if you just worked hard enough at it, so I felt like I could always be better if I just worked more, spent more and more time on it to the point of it becoming an obsession.    Shouldering the blame for a loss because I didn't work hard enough at something that might have resulted in a difference making goal or preventing a goal.  Then spend days on end obsessing about how to fix it.   I'm sure a lot of players are that way to a degree.     When it's your job and you're at the rink every single day for seasons on end, it's pretty much all you think about all the time and it defines who you are.., it's what you do, what you're there for... your sense of self worth revolves around it entirely so you better work at it as hard as you can, or quit the game and do something else.

Maybe this is what it takes to be great at anything which is why I am not.

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Posted 13 July 2017 - 12:07 PM

Pretty sure Toronto is going without a C this year 

 

If the Sabres do that, their next captain will be Casey Mittlestadt.



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Posted 13 July 2017 - 11:12 PM

Well Gionta in an interview today said Eichel is ready to be Captain. So there's that.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:23 AM

Link? I'd like to listen to that.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:31 AM

Well Gionta in an interview today said Eichel is ready to be Captain. So there's that.

 

d4rk's head just asploded.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 07:48 AM

d4rk's head just asploded.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:08 AM

Well Gionta in an interview today said Eichel is ready to be Captain. So there's that.

Make it so



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 08:45 AM

Make it so

I kinda wanna go back and rewatch the next generation now



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:00 AM

I kinda wanna go back and rewatch the next generation now

Go with Voyager

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:09 AM

I always thought Piccard was a hottie 

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:15 AM

I kinda wanna go back and rewatch the next generation now

 

Netflix has all the series. The past....5 years or so I've been falling asleep to Star Trek every night. I rotate through each series. I'm probably on my 4th re-watch of them all at this point.



#115 That Aud Smell

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:18 AM

Go with Voyager

 

that picture has to be ... enhanced.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:19 AM

Since no one can settle this and the discussion has certainly drifted (Ink, they are fake, eh) I will end the discussion now.

 

I will come out of retirement and captain the Sabres this coming season, but only this one time.  OK.



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:41 AM

Since no one can settle this and the discussion has certainly drifted (Ink, they are fake, eh) I will end the discussion now.

 

I will come out of retirement and captain the Sabres this coming season, but only this one time.  OK.

 

I thought it was settled that Eichel will be captain and we decided to debate more important matters such as Jeri Ryan's....assets?



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Posted 14 July 2017 - 09:48 AM

that picture has to be ... enhanced.


Nah just the chesticles...

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 10:15 AM

Since no one can settle this and the discussion has certainly drifted (Ink, they are fake, eh) I will end the discussion now.

I will come out of retirement and captain the Sabres this coming season, but only this one time. OK.

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Posted 14 July 2017 - 10:21 AM

I always thought Piccard was a hottie 

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Only guy in history to successfully pull off the hair half-ring look?


Edited by sabills, 14 July 2017 - 10:22 AM.