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#1 spndnchz

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:03 PM

Well...

 

Preseason schedule is out.

 

2017-18 season schedules are coming out 3 o'clock this Thursday.

 

Did you here that Ott is now an Assistant Coach for the Blues?



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 01:23 PM

Anyone have an eye on any specific games? I'm curious to see when the Sabres play in Vegas and when they're coming to Barclays & MSG. They only played 1 away game vs. both NY teams last year so I believe they're due 4 times in the city and then once again for the Winter Heritage Classic Stadium Outdoor game.



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:32 PM

LeBrun tweeting that Shane Doan is done in Arizona (but still mit look elsewhere, maybe). Most of this board wasn't alive the last time he wasn't on that franchise's active roster...

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:37 PM

LeBrun tweeting that Shane Doan is done in Arizona (but still mit look elsewhere, maybe). Most of this board wasn't alive the last time he wasn't on that franchise's active roster...

Wonder where he would even go



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:37 PM

LeBrun tweeting that Shane Doan is done in Arizona (but still mit look elsewhere, maybe). Most of this board wasn't alive the last time he wasn't on that franchise's active roster...


There's gotta be, what, a less than 1% chance some NHL team actually signs him? The dude is beyond "lost a step" at this point.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:38 PM

There's gotta be, what, a less than 1% chance some NHL team actually signs him? The dude is beyond "lost a step" at this point.

He is 40. There's no much left there, if anything really


Edited by WildCard, 19 June 2017 - 02:39 PM.


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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:47 PM

Not to beat this dead horse further, but here's where I do the joke where I'm shocked they didn't resign him to a max contract so long as he promises not to play ever again.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:47 PM

There's gotta be, what, a less than 1% chance some NHL team actually signs him? The dude is beyond "lost a step" at this point.

 

If I were LV, depending on how the drafts and trades go I'd consider it on a one or maybe two year deal to teach the kids.



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:50 PM

He is 40. There's no much left there, if anything really

 

Frickin dude is OLD!

 

He's due for Viagra, reading spectacles and prune juice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get off my lawn youngin   :P



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:53 PM

If I were LV, depending on how the drafts and trades go I'd consider it on a one or maybe two year deal to teach the kids.

To teach them what? There's nothing left for him to impart as a player.



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:58 PM

To teach them what? There's nothing left for him to impart as a player.


This is where I'm at with "teaching vets". ROR is the age of a vet who should be teaching rookies. You don't have to be 40 to know how to play or teach this game.

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Posted 19 June 2017 - 02:58 PM

To teach them what? There's nothing left for him to impart as a player.

Not too mention if we're picking mentors, there are plenty of better options out there


This is where I'm at with "teaching vets". ROR is the age of a vet who should be teaching rookies. You don't have to be 40 to know how to play or teach this game.

Yup



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:03 PM

This is where I'm at with "teaching vets". ROR is the age of a vet who should be teaching rookies. You don't have to be 40 to know how to play or teach this game.

 

 

Not too mention if we're picking mentors, there are plenty of better options out there


Yup

And at some point, you're actively making things worse. Who the hell is going to take Doan seriously? 



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:06 PM

I think younger players respect on ice ability more than some older player saying well I did this thing once and am older so you have to listen. Hard to lead by example when you are nearer the end of a wonderful career... unless you're Jagr, the mofo refuses to age. 



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:49 PM

I think younger players respect on ice ability more than some older player saying well I did this thing once and am older so you have to listen. Hard to lead by example when you are nearer the end of a wonderful career... unless you're Jagr, the mofo refuses to age. 

Also, he's still good. 



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:51 PM

Also, he's still good. 

Doan? 



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:54 PM

Doan? 

No, Jagr. 



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Posted 19 June 2017 - 03:54 PM

No, Jagr. 

Oh yes, that was why I thought of him. 



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:41 AM

Frickin dude is OLD!

 

He's due for Viagra, reading spectacles and prune juice.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Get off my lawn youngin   :P

 

 

He is 40. There's no much left there, if anything really

 

 

And at some point, you're actively making things worse. Who the hell is going to take Doan seriously? 

 

 

Someone explain Matt Cullen then.  He was 40 this year.. on the penguins who clearly did not need veteran leadership.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:48 AM

Someone explain Matt Cullen then. He was 40 this year.. on the penguins who clearly did not need veteran leadership.


Dude put up 30+ points this year. That's not bad. His play hasn't fallen off a cliff yet either.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 11:52 AM

Someone explain Matt Cullen then. He was 40 this year.. on the penguins who clearly did not need veteran leadership.


Not everyone ages at exactly the same rate?

Cullen can still skate. Doan's legs, which were there that great in the first place, are toast. He just can't move out there anymore. Is it so shocking that a guy who played the style he played losses "it" while another doesn't?

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:26 PM

Dude put up 30+ points this year. That's not bad. His play hasn't fallen off a cliff yet either.

 

The Penguins are a much more offensive styled team than Arizona who sucked.

 

Not everyone ages at exactly the same rate?

Cullen can still skate. Doan's legs, which were there that great in the first place, are toast. He just can't move out there anymore. Is it so shocking that a guy who played the style he played losses "it" while another doesn't?

 

Possible... people definitely age differently.  I haven't watched him play in awhile... but I was thinking that just dismissing him because he's 40 seems to be focused on the wrong metric.



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Posted 20 June 2017 - 02:32 PM

The Penguins are a much more offensive styled team than Arizona who sucked.


Possible... people definitely age differently. I haven't watched him play in awhile... but I was thinking that just dismissing him because he's 40 seems to be focused on the wrong metric.


He's like the winger version of Josh Gorges, on a west coast swing, playing his 5th game in 5 nights, after having partied til 5am. Dude has no legs. Might as well be playing sled hockey.

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 03:20 PM

He's like the winger version of Josh Gorges, on a west coast swing, playing his 5th game in 5 nights, after having partied til 5am. Dude has no legs. Might as well be playing sled hockey.

Ouch.

I laughed. 

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Posted 20 June 2017 - 06:04 PM

Not everyone ages at exactly the same rate?

Cullen can still skate. Doan's legs, which were there that great in the first place, are toast. He just can't move out there anymore. Is it so shocking that a guy who played the style he played losses "it" while another doesn't?

 

Skating is 100% of it.  It is no coincidence that the guys that play into their 40's are guys who were great skaters and didn't lose their legs.  Recchi, Patrick, Teppo, Jagr, Cullen, Chelios, Selanne, Larionov, Roberts, Oates, Alfredsson, Francis.  The mediocre skaters that can play that long are few and far between.  Andrechuck, Hull, maybe Messier?  And 2 of those 3 were solidly in the dead puck era at 40.

 

Anytime someone bemoans picking up an older free agent it usually prompts me to consider how well they skate before I lay judgement.  I still have no problem with Gionta.  Guy still has his wheels.  I think he's still effective.  Different role, but effective.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 02:22 AM

Marian Hossa may have to retire due to severe allergies to equipment.  Evidently the medication he's been taking to counter that is potentially messing him up as well.  That's messed up and I feel bad for the guy.

 

If he does have to hang them up, it'll be interesting to see just how bananas the rest of the league goes when Chicago pulls a Pronger in order to avoid the cap recapture penalty that they can in no way handle. 

 

http://www.chicagotr...0620-story.html



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 06:14 AM

Marian Hossa may have to retire due to severe allergies to equipment.  Evidently the medication he's been taking to counter that is potentially messing him up as well.  That's messed up and I feel bad for the guy.
 
If he does have to hang them up, it'll be interesting to see just how bananas the rest of the league goes when Chicago pulls a Pronger in order to avoid the cap recapture penalty that they can in no way handle. 
 
http://www.chicagotr...0620-story.html


I saw that interesting way out of cap recapture like they mighta known that before contract. Sounds fishy to meee.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:46 AM

I saw that interesting way out of cap recapture like they mighta known that before contract. Sounds fishy to meee.


Per the usj, teams with supposed cap issues never have to pay the piper

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 07:53 AM

Marian Hossa may have to retire due to severe allergies to equipment.  Evidently the medication he's been taking to counter that is potentially messing him up as well.  That's messed up and I feel bad for the guy.

 

If he does have to hang them up, it'll be interesting to see just how bananas the rest of the league goes when Chicago pulls a Pronger in order to avoid the cap recapture penalty that they can in no way handle. 

 

http://www.chicagotr...0620-story.html

 

Oof. How awful. And scary. Such a terrific player. I wish him well.

 

I saw that interesting way out of cap recapture like they mighta known that before contract. Sounds fishy to meee.

 

All indications are that this is a legitimate and serious (and unforeseen) medical issue.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 08:42 AM

I really hope Hossa ends up being okay. Both because I've always liked him, and because I want Chicago to have to continue to suffer in their cap prison.

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 09:28 AM

So has anyone seen the pictures of Stan Bowman in the training room with a bottle of itching powder?

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:19 AM

Dude put up nearly 30 goals and 50 points last season. Makes more sense for him to continue to play and then get sat on LTIR later. I'm sure he will always be allergic to his kit now. I think i saw a tweet saying he will miss next season at the least. Poor guy - rough way to possibly end a career.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:22 AM

I believe that Hossa is having that problem, but that couldn't have happened in a more suspicious way, and couldn't have sounded more like an excuse that an 8 year old concocted. 



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:47 AM

I believe that Hossa is having that problem, but that couldn't have happened in a more suspicious way, and couldn't have sounded more like an excuse that an 8 year old concocted.


Yeah like my pads are making me itchy, not sure if I can play coach

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 10:55 AM

So has anyone seen the pictures of Stan Bowman in the training room with a bottle of itching powder?

 

No.

 

....he hired McKee to do it.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:02 AM

I believe that Hossa is having that problem, but that couldn't have happened in a more suspicious way, and couldn't have sounded more like an excuse that an 8 year old concocted. 

 

Yeah like my pads are making me itchy, not sure if I can play coach

 

Hmmm. I've been taking what's being said at face value. And there's plenty of very grave, sober Tweets out there from Serious Minded People wishing him well, etc.

 

What's the financial upside/relief for the team if they LTIR him?



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:09 AM

Hmmm. I've been taking what's being said at face value. And there's plenty of very grave, sober Tweets out there from Serious Minded People wishing him well, etc.

 

What's the financial upside/relief for the team if they LTIR him?

3.5 mil annually in cap space.



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 11:09 AM

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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:32 PM

Fwiw on Hossa, a former Blackhawk d-man tells a pretty convincing (and fairly disturbing) story about his struggle with "the gunk":

 

http://chicago.sunti...eid-out-of-nhl/



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Posted 21 June 2017 - 12:43 PM

The Gunk sounds nasty. Makes me itch just reading about it. Sounds like athletes foot everywhere.





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