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#1 Sabre fan

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:09 AM

Some surprises here for sure...

 

http://www.sportsnet...xpansion-draft/


So after signing Ullmark we did not protect him. I would think Carrier is bye-bye and that's too bad I liked him



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:13 AM

14 Sabre draft picks, if I counted right

 

Larsson
McCabe
Risto
Ennis
Foligno
Girgensons
Nikita Zadorov
Andrej Sekera
Zach Kassian
Mark Pysek
Jason Pominville
Paul Byron
Tyler Myers
Joel Armia



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:14 AM

I'm shocked the peg protected Myers.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:14 AM

BUFFALO SABRES

Available
William Carrier (F)
Nicolas Deslauriers (F)
Brian Gionta (F)
Derek Grant (F)
Justin Kea (F)
Matt Moulson (F)
Cal O’Reilly (F)
Cole Schneider (F)
Brady Austin (D)
Mathew Bodie (D)
Zach Bogosian (D)
Justin Falk (D)
Taylor Fedun (D)
Cody Franson (D)
Josh Gorges (D)
Dmitry Kulikov (D)
Anders Nilsson (G)
Linus Ullmark (G)

Protected
Tyler Ennis (F)
Marcus Foligno (F)
Zemgus Girgensons (F)
Evander Kane (F)
Johan Larsson (F)
Ryan O’Reilly (F)
Kyle Okposo (F)
Nathan Beaulieu (D)
Jake McCabe (D)
Rasmus Ristolainen (D)
Robin Lehner (G)

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:17 AM

Interesting Carrier left unprotected, remember Sabres can only lose 1 unless deal in place..

Edited by North Buffalo, 18 June 2017 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:26 AM

I can't believe they protected Ennis over Carrier. After Moulson, Ennis is the player I was hoping most that Vegas woud take off our hands.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:27 AM

I can't believe they protected Ennis over Carrier. After Moulson, Ennis is the player I was hoping most that Vegas woud take off our hands.


Ennis is a good value. I'm not that surprised by the move.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:30 AM

Ennis is a good value. I'm not that surprised by the move.


$4.6 million cap hit for 13 points is a good value? Are you his agent?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:32 AM

$4.6 million cap hit for 13 points is a good value? Are you his agent?


He had a bad year. Relax.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:34 AM

He had a bad year. Relax.


He had 11 points the year before. I'm not buying whatever it is you're selling about him. I guess JB does though, unfortunately. Matt Moulson produces more and has fewer years left on his contract.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:34 AM

No real surprises.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:35 AM

Not too surprising to me.  Carrier is a good energy guy but the Sabres have plenty of those guys right now.  Now the fun begins!



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:36 AM

Some surprises here for sure...

 

http://www.sportsnet...xpansion-draft/


So after signing Ullmark we did not protect him. I would think Carrier is bye-bye and that's too bad I liked him

 

You had to have two expansion draft eligible goalies on contract.  They had to sign him, if only to expose him.

 

I'm puzzled by the Ennis thing.  Maybe JBot & Housley see something I don't see.


Edited by Doohickie, 18 June 2017 - 10:39 AM.


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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:38 AM

McPhee should just suck it up and take Derek Grant. After all, those pre-season games are going to be pivotal for long term season ticket sales in that window before the actual season starts.

There might be fence sitters, and grant is the guy to pull'em off the fence pre-season style :)

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:40 AM

Yeah, Peg protecting Myers and TJ Oshie not protected and Ennis over Carrier are surprises. Can't see vegas doing us a favor and taking Matty or Bogo over Carrier. It sure would be nice though to lose one of those salaries and Gorges and have a defense with Antinin and Beaulieu added. nice...



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:40 AM

You had to have two expansion draft eligible goalies on contract. They had to sign him, if only to expose him.

I'm puzzled by the Ennis thing. Maybe JBot & Housely see something I don't see.


His production 3+ years ago and the fact that he's still relatively young are in his favor. Still a big time head scratcher for sure though.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:42 AM

The good news is that we protected KO so management must see him returning this year. Obviously if there were any questions about his long-term health I would be inclined to think we'd leave him unprotected... 



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:43 AM

This was floated out there on twitter and I buy it: VGK said "if you expose Carrier we'll take him over whichever goalie you expose". I guess we'll have to see it that theory plays out. Carrier was fine, but I'm not going to cry if he's gone.



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:48 AM

You get the feeling that there is no real draft.  Just a series of deals that VGK will make with other teams. 

 

With each "pick" it will go something like "Vegas has selected X from Y on condition of Z.  Vegas has traded X to Q for L." And so on...

 

Should be fun.



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:53 AM

Surprised about Ennis but other than that it looks good.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:54 AM

He had 11 points the year before. I'm not buying whatever it is you're selling about him. I guess JB does though, unfortunately. Matt Moulson produces more and has fewer years left on his contract.


F*ck Tyler for getting hurt right? What a p*ssy.

Dude has put up 30+ points every season until his injury bug. If he's healthy next year he's absolutely a value.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:55 AM

The good news is that we protected KO so management must see him returning this year. Obviously if there were any questions about his long-term health I would be inclined to think we'd leave him unprotected... 

He had to be protected due to his NMC in his contract.



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 10:58 AM

I like Carrier but lets not make him a lot better than he is just because he's left unprotected vs Ennis. Ennis injuries and contract the only thing that made me think he would be exposed rather than Carrier.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:09 AM

F*ck Tyler for getting hurt right? What a p*ssy.

Dude has put up 30+ points every season until his injury bug. If he's healthy next year he's absolutely a value.


Ennis is cooked, and may have just never been more than a good stats bad team guy in the first place. He needs top minutes and PP time to put up points, but if he's getting those opportunities, your team is probably pretty bad.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:12 AM

Surprised to see Ennis protected over Carrier.

I like Ennis, but I think his days as a useful player are done. I hope I'm wrong, but I think choosing Ennis over Carrier is a mistake.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:15 AM

He had to be protected due to his NMC in his contract.

sorry I did not realize he had a NMC oh well I was hoping it meant he'd be back cause we sure could use him. I think he is one of the most important parts of the team moving forward, whether he can return or not



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:17 AM

Ennis is cooked, and may have just never been more than a good stats bad team guy in the first place. He needs top minutes and PP time to put up points, but if he's getting those opportunities, your team is probably pretty bad.


I've been as big of a critic of Ennis as anyone, but I'm not seeing any point in worrying about his being protected. He's clearly not a Vegas target anyway. Carrier has to be their pick right?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:21 AM

I've been as big of a critic of Ennis as anyone, but I'm not seeing any point in worrying about his being protected. He's clearly not a Vegas target anyway. Carrier has to be their pick right?


You just said the point. If he's not a Vegas target anyway, why protect him and risk losing Carrier?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:21 AM

F*ck Tyler for getting hurt right? What a p*ssy.

Dude has put up 30+ points every season until his injury bug. If he's healthy next year he's absolutely a value.


Struck a nerve, huh? Looks like you're the one who needs to relax not me.

Second, I didn't call him names or question his manhood or toughness. He was one of our best players through the bad years.

That doesn't change the fact that he's been a shell of his former self over the past 2 years and his $4.6 million cap hit would be better spent on player(s) who actually play and produce.

If he can stay healthy and produce like he did 3+ years ago, I'll be happy to eat some crow. I just don't expect it and I would have rather protected Carrier because he's younger and cheaper. That extra $4 million Ennis earns over Carrier could be better spent elsewhere.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:24 AM

You just said the point. If he's not a Vegas target anyway, why protect him and risk losing Carrier?


We're GIVING them Carrier.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:25 AM

You just said the point. If he's not a Vegas target anyway, why protect him and risk losing Carrier?

Exactly. It hurts our chances of Vegas taking Bogosian/Moulson off our hands, because Carrier actually has value. Hopefully Vegas ###### up.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:25 AM

Struck a nerve, huh? Looks like you're the one who needs to relax not me.

Second, I didn't call him names or question his manhood or toughness. He was one of our best players through the bad years.

That doesn't change the fact that he's been a shell of his former self over the past 2 years and his $4.6 million cap hit would be better spent on player(s) who actually play and produce.

If he can stay healthy and produce like he did 3+ years ago, I'll be happy to eat some crow. I just don't expect it and I would have rather protected Carrier because he's younger and cheaper. That extra $4 million Ennis earns over Carrier could be better spent elsewhere.


You protect Carrier you lose someone you wanted to keep more: Ullmark.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:27 AM

You protect Carrier you lose someone you wanted to keep more: Ullmark.

I don't think Ullmark was ever in Vegas's sights. So many more proven goalies out there.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:27 AM

I want Bogosian gone!  



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:27 AM

I don't think Ullmark was ever in Vegas's sights. So many more proven goalies out there.


Is protecting Carrier worth the risk if Vegas calls and tells you they like both?

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:29 AM

You protect Carrier you lose someone you wanted to keep more: Ullmark.


I think there's like 4 young goalies I'd take before Ullmark. I don't think he's nearly as highly regarded around the league as he is here.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:30 AM

I'm shocked the peg protected Myers.

Why expose him if you don't have to? We will probably lose Dano...rather lose him than Myers. I still want to see Myers traded but not until he shows he is healthy and his return is decent. How much time is he going to get after Trouba and Buff?
Bogo being exposed and Beaulieu being protected shows how much Bot thinks of Bogo.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:30 AM

I want Bogosian gone!


Everyone does. Well, everyone other than the crazy dude with the Perreault avatar.

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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:31 AM

People are concerned because Carrier wasn't on the list? What am I missing? He's not that good.



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Posted 18 June 2017 - 11:32 AM

You protect Carrier you lose someone you wanted to keep more: Ullmark.


I don't think that's true. If they want Ullmark they will still take him and if they have other goaltending preferences they won't. Carrier isn't necessarily good enough to force them to pass on Ullmark. The biggest deterrent to them drafting Ullmark is his one way contract. They may not want to pay him that much to tend goal in the AHL.