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#1 ct fab

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:07 PM

Does he sign with Buffalo? We have exclusive rights for 30 days

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:25 PM

Hopefully Jack is a better salesman than he was with Vesey
http://buffalonews.c...n-sabres-clock/

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:43 PM

I believe there is much more moving on the goalie front in Buffalo then is being let on.
I don't believe Lehner is staying. He was soft on the posts and at certain critical moments. He called out team mates.
He is a Murray guy. I think he's gone, possibly to Vegas for a D man they acquire.
I think Ullmark and Petersen are the future, hence the Johanson signing today to help solidify Rochester.

Just a hunch is all.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:47 PM

Hopefully Jack is a better salesman than he was with Vesey
http://buffalonews.c...n-sabres-clock/


*dons tinfoil hat*

You're assuming he told Vesey anythjng other than to run in the opposite direction of Bylsma as fast as his legs could carry him.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:50 PM

I believe there is much more moving on the goalie front in Buffalo then is being let on.
I don't believe Lehner is staying. He was soft on the posts and at certain critical moments. He called out team mates.
He is a Murray guy. I think he's gone, possibly to Vegas for a D man they acquire.
I think Ullmark and Petersen are the future, hence the Johanson signing today to help solidify Rochester.

Just a hunch is all.

Lehner was good, except in shootouts, then he was bad... like awful... I'm not sure he actually stopped 1 shot and I'm not kidding.

Edited by ShadowLiger, 31 May 2017 - 04:50 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 04:57 PM

Scotty may be on to something with Lehner. Who knows what deal, if any, we're working on behind the scenes with LV. Maybe something like this:

We leave Lehner exposed (whom they take), they also take a bad contract (BOGO or moulsen) and we give them a 2nd rounder? I would say we'd give them are first rounder for a MIN or ANA stud dman but I think those teams trade one before giving one to LV. My ideal off season:

Extend jack, Reinhart and Kane
Sign Cal
Lose Lehner, trade moulsen and a 2nd to LV
Buy out Bogo
Trade our first rounder to ANA for Fowler
Signed nilsson to backup ullmark
Would leave us plenty of $$ to add an UFA forward too (winger for Jack??)

Edited by ct fab, 31 May 2017 - 05:17 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 05:13 PM

Who's Reinhardt?

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 05:40 PM

"I have no problem starting next season with him in goal," Botterill told Sportsnet. "There are more pressing needs. I liked what I saw from him when he won the Calder Cup."

Robin Lehner faced plenty of rubber in 2016-17.

Buffalo finished last in the NHL in shots allowed, while giving up 34.3 per game. The opponents of the Sabres attempted the fourth-most shots, with 4,943 in the 82 games (an average of 60.3). Lehner faced 1,910 shots, which ranked him third overall among all netminders. He managed to post a .920 save percentage, but his 23-26-8 record shows that he needs more help from his teammates next season. Buffalo was outshot in 53 of 82 games and the team lost 21 contests by one goal. — Rotoworld
 
That be wonderful if Petersen and/or Ullmark was better than Lehner.
But right now I wouldn't bet on their combined 21 NHL games, eight wins or .913 save percentage either.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 05:52 PM

I think Lehner has proven he's more than capable of handling the job. There are plenty of other problems to deal with than trying to find somebody to take over in net. Peterson shouldn't see anything more than a starting role, tops, in Rochester next year. And if Lehner can turn in another good year, that's where Peterson should remain. 

 

Lehner's save percentage was better than multiple Vezina winners this year, behind one of the worst defenses in the league. Not sure what more fans want. Peterson shouldn't even get a sniff of the NHL next year. Hell, the way Nilsson played, neither should Ullmark. The Sabres finished tied for 4th in team save percentage. That's the 2nd highest the team has finished in 15 years. That doesn't need messing with. 



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:32 PM

Rumour is Cal is going to UFA

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:35 PM

Lehner is our guy, he's earned it. Having said that, yeah hope Peterson is signed we have 30 days.

Edited by Saratoga Sabres Fan, 31 May 2017 - 06:36 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 06:37 PM

I project Petersen as a career AHL goaltender.   He's not that good folks.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:07 PM

Word from Friedman and Buccigross on Twitter is that Cal is going to FA. Buffalo will be "in the mix" still, they say. So, in other words, we aren't signing him.

The College Draft Pick loop-hole is ridiculous. Why would anyone waste draft picks on College commits at this point? If they turn out good, they go to free agency. Doesn't Botterill have a proven track record of drafting College guys? To my mind that's not good news. Meanwhile there's a decent looking CHL player in Estephan who Botterill isn't going to sign.

Interesting.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:11 PM

Pretty sure I couldn't care less if he signs here or not. I'm so ###### sick of waiting on prospects and waiting for the ###### future.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:12 PM

Pretty sure I couldn't care less if he signs here or not. I'm so ###### sick of waiting on prospects and waiting for the ###### future.


I'm getting there, too.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:33 PM

Lehner is our guy, he's earned it. Having said that, yeah hope Peterson is signed we have 30 days.


He gone

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:36 PM

He gone

 

Yup.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:38 PM

Word from Friedman and Buccigross on Twitter is that Cal is going to FA. Buffalo will be "in the mix" still, they say. So, in other words, we aren't signing him.

The College Draft Pick loop-hole is ridiculous. Why would anyone waste draft picks on College commits at this point? If they turn out good, they go to free agency. Doesn't Botterill have a proven track record of drafting College guys? To my mind that's not good news. Meanwhile there's a decent looking CHL player in Estephan who Botterill isn't going to sign.

Interesting.

Pretty sure no one outside of Sabres fans who have too much time on their hands think the CHL sauce machine (I apologize) think this

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:41 PM

He gone

 

Why wouldn't JB stick with Lehner/ Ullmark? Long as Lehner isn't insisting on longer than 3 year term I don't see him not getting extended.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:42 PM

Pretty sure no one outside of Sabres fans who have too much time on their hands think the CHL sauce machine (I apologize) think this


Think what?

Why wouldn't JB stick with Lehner/ Ullmark? Long as Lehner isn't insisting on longer than 3 year term I don't see him not getting extended.


Peterson gone, he meant.

Edited by Thorny, 31 May 2017 - 07:43 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 07:44 PM

Think what?


Peterson gone, he meant.

Oh well yeah that definitely is very possible.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 08:13 PM

Think what?


Peterson gone, he meant.

 

Play on Miami Sound Machine.

 

Ink, man.  So disappointing.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:04 PM

Pretty sure no one outside of Sabres fans who have too much time on their hands think the CHL sauce machine (I apologize) think this

 

Why would any non-Sabres fan care what we are or are not going to do with a 6th round pick?



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 12:30 AM

I project Petersen as a career AHL goaltender.   He's not that good folks.

 

I think he could be better than that, but I agree with the general sentiment that he is vastly overrated by Sabreland.



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 12:39 AM

I project Petersen as a career AHL goaltender.   He's not that good folks.

 

What makes you say this? I'm not saying you're wrong, but this seems to be a definite minority opinion.

 

I'm not familiar with the goaltending situations around the league. Which teams can offer better career prospects than Buffalo? The fact that our new GM has little emotional investment in Lehner probably helps our recruiting a lot.



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 12:42 AM

Petersen is rumoured to want to go to Chicago.  

If so ask chicago to trade their best goalie prospect for him. (Wouter peeters).



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 12:46 AM

I think he could be better than that, but I agree with the general sentiment that he is vastly overrated by Sabreland.

 

He's a clone of Matt Hackett.    



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:22 AM

Petersen is rumoured to want to go to Chicago.  

If so ask chicago to trade their best goalie prospect for him. (Wouter peeters).

 

And why would they do that if they can just sign him without giving anything up in just one month?



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 02:38 AM

He's a clone of Matt Hackett.


Hackett gets really good in NHL 14. He progresses to elite status!

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 05:47 AM

Where is this analysis coming from PI, your own personal opinion I take it? He's a better prospect coming out of college than Ryan Miller, and Miller turned out okay, I would say.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 07:24 AM

Petersen is rumoured to want to go to Chicago.  

If so ask chicago to trade their best goalie prospect for him. (Wouter peeters).

 

Crawford has 3 years left on his contract.  He's 32 now, so the timing would be right for Petersen.  Of course Chicago's key players will be older.  Especially their defense.  Keith will be 36 and Seabrook will be 35.   Can't leave out the cap problem Chicago has.  They have Hossa through 2021, and he's already 38.  I'm not a GM, so maybe it's fixable.  

 

Vesey knew he'd have a shot at receiving immediate NHL playing time as a top 3 line winger.  Petersen won't have the luxury of having multiple spots open on the roster.  He'll spend a year in the AHL, which is the norm for goalies, and probably be a backup for Crawford the next 2.  

 

Sure, if he signs w/ the Sabres he'll still be in the AHL his rookie year.  But I feel he has a chance to compete for the starting job in Buffalo in the 2018-19 season.  Another thing to consider is the age and potential for the Sabres.  Buffalo, okay a fan biased opinion, is on the rise.  Have a lot to look forward to.  Chicago will be on a steady decline.  Not saying they're on their way to being a struggling, playoff bubble team.  However, they won't be a Cup contender for long.  

 

If I was Petersen, I'd sign w/ a team like Buffalo.  Opportunity to play and a team w/ a lot of potential is something he has to consider.  


Edited by GoPre, 01 June 2017 - 07:24 AM.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 07:39 AM

Hopefully Jack is a better salesman than he was with Vesey
http://buffalonews.c...n-sabres-clock/

 

 

*dons tinfoil hat*

You're assuming he told Vesey anythjng other than to run in the opposite direction of Bylsma as fast as his legs could carry him.

:P

 

It's possible that happened. If Jack was just being open and told Vesey that he hates the system that DB uses, and it's the worst time in his hockey life, why would Vesey sign up for that. I know I heard rumblings of such on Twitter during that summer.

 

I don't know what Jack said to either Vesey or Petersen, but it was reported that Jack told Petersen that he "has to do what he thinks is best for him." Not exactly, 'dude - you've got to come to Buffalo!'

 

I am not saying Jack is sabotaging the team, but when you have an honest heart-to-heart with someone, it is usually with an undertone that is not self-serving. Maybe Petersen is shocked that instead of "come to Buffalo" he's only hearing "it's your call."

 

The good news is this: If history repeats itself, Petersen will decide not to sign with Buffalo, and the Sabres will be in next year's Stanley Cup finals!



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 07:42 AM

It's possible that happened. If Jack was just being open and told Vesey that he hates the system that DB uses, and it's the worst time in his hockey life, why would Vesey sign up for that. I know I heard rumblings of such on Twitter during that summer.

 

I don't know what Jack said to either Vesey or Petersen, but it was reported that Jack told Petersen that he "has to do what he thinks is best for him." Not exactly, 'dude - you've got to come to Buffalo!'

 

I am not saying Jack is sabotaging the team, but when you have an honest heart-to-heart with someone, it is usually with an undertone that is not self-serving. Maybe Petersen is shocked that instead of "come to Buffalo" he's only hearing "it's your call."

 

The good news is this: If history repeats itself, Petersen will decide not to sign with Buffalo, and the Sabres will be in next year's Stanley Cup finals!

 

If history repeats itself, Buffalo will not be in next year's Stanley Cup Final.  



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 07:58 AM

Scotty may be on to something with Lehner. Who knows what deal, if any, we're working on behind the scenes with LV. Maybe something like this:

We leave Lehner exposed (whom they take), they also take a bad contract (BOGO or moulsen) and we give them a 2nd rounder? I would say we'd give them are first rounder for a MIN or ANA stud dman but I think those teams trade one before giving one to LV. My ideal off season:

Extend jack, Reinhart and Kane
Sign Cal
Lose Lehner, trade moulsen and a 2nd to LV
Buy out Bogo
Trade our first rounder to ANA for Fowler
Signed nilsson to backup ullmark
Would leave us plenty of $$ to add an UFA forward too (winger for Jack??)

 

Buying out Bogosian would give us cap implications for 6 more seasons. Not a good idea when that's supposed to be our best window to win. Fowler is Anaheim's best defensemen. There's no way in hell they trade him for the #8 pick in a mediocre draft.



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:42 AM

no way we buy out Bogo...Moulson maybe although i think the best way to go is to try and unload these contracts like the Leafs were able to do. And yeah, no way Fowler gets traded. Also lerner will be here...he is much better then is getting credit for. and Cal is gone gone gone...



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:56 AM

no way we buy out Bogo...Moulson maybe although i think the best way to go is to try and unload these contracts like the Leafs were able to do. And yeah, no way Fowler gets traded. Also lerner will be here...he is much better then is getting credit for. and Cal is gone gone gone...

 

Still amazed how they pulled that off.  Especially Phaneuf's contract.  



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:02 AM

Buying out Bogosian would give us cap implications for 6 more seasons. Not a good idea when that's supposed to be our best window to win. Fowler is Anaheim's best defensemen. There's no way in hell they trade him for the #8 pick in a mediocre draft.


I'm not really sure why people keep posting trades with Fowler. He's not moving.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:18 AM

Buying out Bogosian would give us cap implications for 6 more seasons. Not a good idea when that's supposed to be our best window to win. Fowler is Anaheim's best defensemen. There's no way in hell they trade him for the #8 pick in a mediocre draft.

This is not a mediocre draft. This is a misconception because the top pick in this draft is not on the level of Matthews, Laine, Eichel, McClavicle



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:23 AM

Where is this analysis coming from PI, your own personal opinion I take it? He's a better prospect coming out of college than Ryan Miller, and Miller turned out okay, I would say.

It'd be nice to have a well thought of goalie in the system, but I don't think the bolded is correct at all. 



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 09:27 AM

Word from Friedman and Buccigross on Twitter is that Cal is going to FA. Buffalo will be "in the mix" still, they say. So, in other words, we aren't signing him.

The College Draft Pick loop-hole is ridiculous. Why would anyone waste draft picks on College commits at this point? If they turn out good, they go to free agency. Doesn't Botterill have a proven track record of drafting College guys? To my mind that's not good news. Meanwhile there's a decent looking CHL player in Estephan who Botterill isn't going to sign.

Interesting.

 

It probably serves a team better to take that late round stab at a college guy over a CHL guy.  You control the player for 4 years, giving you more time to figure out whether or not they're worth anything.  Compare that to having to make your mind up after two years when the player is still a teenager, very early in their development curve.  I think that was a big part of Murray's approach to the draft.  There was a good number of USHL/NCAA and europeans taken with the later picks.