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#41 GoPre

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:12 AM

Housley or Ruff.

 

Housley all the way.  I'm a big fan of Ruff, hope all goes well for him.  But at times it's best to move on and not return.  I understand this would be Housely's first head coaching position in the NHL, but the potential is there.  Feel he would have an immediate impact on the Sabres d'.  Will admit a reason to bring Ruff back is his ability to adapt to the players; meaning don't force a system on them.  Play a style of game that matches the players you have.  The defense needs tremendous help though, so I'm staying w/ Housely.  



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:13 AM

Any ex-Sabre hired (if hired) will come with the extra layer of questions attached. Best candidate or not, everyone will remember the Pegula face fountain at the introductory presses and go from there. Again, deserved or not...

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:36 AM

Think Boughner would take the Amerks head coaching job?  Set up a Housley/Boughner coaching tandem.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 11:43 AM

How would anyone know the difference? It's just going to be "choose your own narrative".

They identify him as being an x sabre and that was a reason for their interest

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:52 PM

How would anyone know the difference? It's just going to be "choose your own narrative".


Urgh, those books were so much worse than the original Goosebumps...

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:56 PM

Urgh, those books were so much worse than the original Goosebumps...

You kidding me?  I loved the choose your own adventure.  That was my grade 5/6 go to when it came time for the annual scholastic book sale.....



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 02:57 PM

You kidding me?  I loved the choose your own adventure.  That was my grade 5/6 go to when it came time for the annual scholastic book sale.....


I was just so partial to the original series :P

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:01 PM

Housley all the way.  I'm a big fan of Ruff, hope all goes well for him.  But at times it's best to move on and not return.  I understand this would be Housely's first head coaching position in the NHL, but the potential is there.  Feel he would have an immediate impact on the Sabres d'.  Will admit a reason to bring Ruff back is his ability to adapt to the players; meaning don't force a system on them.  Play a style of game that matches the players you have.  The defense needs tremendous help though, so I'm staying w/ Housely.

This is a different team and time. I'd be okay with Ruff and think he didn't deserve to be let go to begin with.

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:01 PM

Think Boughner would take the Amerks head coaching job? Set up a Housley/Boughner coaching tandem.

That's the only thing I would see him as. From what I've read about him here, he had a bunch of success in the minors about 8 years ago. I'm not sure what he had been doing the last 8 years though.

I want a coach who has personally witnessed what type of play is needed to go deep into the playoffs. Tochett and Housley are well aware of this and Boughner may be aware too. It's up to JBott to decide how qualified they are.

Edited by kas23, 31 May 2017 - 03:05 PM.


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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:06 PM

This is a different team and time. I'd be okay with Ruff and think he didn't deserve to be let go to begin with.

 

I said it in the old thread, but I don't think this team has the goaltending that Ruff needs for his favored system to be successful.



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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:09 PM

I loved Boughner as a player on those overachieving garbage teams + Hasek. Why the hell not?


Loved the " Boogie Man".

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Posted 31 May 2017 - 03:11 PM

How would anyone know the difference? It's just going to be "choose your own narrative". 

 

Marv Levy as GM is the one I continue to point to here. The guy was never qualified for that job, but was given it because Ralph like him. Then Ted Nolan, who was given the job because Lafontaine liked him and he knew people would like him enough to let the team fail for a while under him. Those guys were never going to get that job with any other team.

 

I'd really rather noone who's ever been associated with the Sabres get the job (same with the GM, but obviously thats over now) just to be sure, but since 2 of the Big Names that have been thrown around have also been mentioned for OTHER teams (Boughner and Housley) I'd feel a little safer with them.


Edited by sabills, 31 May 2017 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:53 PM

Per Dreger

Botterill has also started advising the candidates he has spoken to they're not getting the job. Hoping to hire before draft.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 01:59 PM

Per Dreger

Botterill has also started advising the candidates he has spoken to they're not getting the job. Hoping to hire before draft.

So some people he has spoken to have already been eliminated, good to know. Guess JBOT is working on stuff behind the scenes. 



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Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:08 PM

Per Dreger

Botterill has also started advising the candidates he has spoken to they're not getting the job. Hoping to hire before draft.


That's a ballsy thing to do without someone else already poised to sign. Hmmm.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 08:56 PM

Not if he's talking to 10 or 12 candidates like he said he might and bringing the finalists in to meet the Pegulas.

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Posted 01 June 2017 - 10:47 PM

Boughner has a better coaching resume than I thought he did, and those quote were the type of thing I'm looking for in a coach. And given the player he was, I'd imagine he has the presence that Botterill is looking for. Not sure if it's been mentioned, but a couple guests were on the WGR morning show today giving some insight. I could get excited about this.

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:36 AM

That's a ballsy thing to do without someone else already poised to sign. Hmmm.


Not if they were idiots who couldn't tie their shoes.

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 06:52 AM

Not if they were idiots who couldn't tie their shoes.


I assumed they were at least competent considering Botterill even bothered to interview them.

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:46 AM

I assumed they were at least competent considering Botterill even bothered to interview them.


Suppose they seemed competent until they began speaking? JBOT recognized it and removed them from consideration.

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:51 AM

Not so sure about Housley now and where his loyalties might be...http://m.startribune...-mix/425842693/

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:58 AM

Not if they were idiots who couldn't tie their shoes.

Doesn't even have to be that. Could just be inherently different opinions on how to run a team, or the type of system to run. I Jbot wants to run X system, and he brings in a guy from a team with an X system, but then gets the guy there and he's like "well, that's they way the current HC likes to run it, but I would prefer to run a Y system" JBot could dismiss him out of hand. "You're a good coach, but we're looking to do something a little different.


Not so sure about Housley now and where his loyalties might be...http://m.startribune...-mix/425842693/

 

Wouldn't Buffalo be closer to MN than Nashville? Or at least basically the same distance.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 09:26 AM

Not so sure about Housley now and where his loyalties might be...http://m.startribune...-mix/425842693/

 

I'll worry about that when the Wild job opens up.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 10:06 AM

Hmm, so Phil's wife is a Republican state senator and he got in trouble for failing to adequately babysit a drunk and violent Theoren Fleury in a Columbus strip club. Which is a bigger knock on his character? 😜

Edited by dudacek, 02 June 2017 - 10:06 AM.


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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:27 PM

Not so sure about Housley now and where his loyalties might be...http://m.startribune...-mix/425842693/

 

How many SS posters are no longer interested in Housley as first choice after learning that he and his wife are Republicans?



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:33 PM

How many SS posters are no longer interested in Housley as first choice after learning that he and his wife are Republicans?

 

I really don't care about that at all.  Housley is still my first choice.  Some posters are *beginning* to convince me that Boughner might be a decent second choice, but I really am not that interested in him.


Edited by Eleven, 02 June 2017 - 12:34 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:57 PM

How many SS posters are no longer interested in Housley as first choice after learning that he and his wife are Republicans?

I'll volunteer, so your cushy stereotypes of Sabrespace posters don't get uncomfortably challenged. 

 

Housley is a nazi fascist that wants to kill the planet!!! 



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 12:59 PM

Tocchet or Housley. Both are good with communication and are top candidates.

 

Either will do IMO...

 

 

But when it comes to politics religion and sports.. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, otherwise there will be fall out. If you are going to use my form of entertainment to forward your opinionated agenda then I don't want you on the team ever. I like sports to be free of that non sense



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 01:05 PM

In all seriousness, I think I'm more sold on Boughner than on Housley. I wouldn't be upset if we hired Phil at all, but I'm not nearly as emotionally attached to him as others are.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 01:11 PM

In all seriousness, I think I'm more sold on Boughner than on Housley. I wouldn't be upset if we hired Phil at all, but I'm not nearly as emotionally attached to him as others are.


Funny, I've come over to that thinking myself. I actually think on paper and experience Boughner seems like the better candidate. Like you, I'm not upset if they hire Housley but I'm favoring Boughner at this point of the names I've heard. Tocchet I'm not opposed to but he would be placed behind Housley or Boughner on my list.

Edited by Radar, 02 June 2017 - 01:17 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2017 - 01:12 PM

In all seriousness, I think I'm more sold on Boughner than on Housley. I wouldn't be upset if we hired Phil at all, but I'm not nearly as emotionally attached to him as others are.

Funny, I've come over to that thinking myself. I actually think on paper and experience Boughner seems like the better candidate. Like you, I'm not upset if they hire Housley but I'm favoring Boughner at this point of the names I've heard.

Agreed. Sign me up for the Boogieman 



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 01:14 PM

Tocchet or Housley. Both are good with communication and are top candidates.

 

Either will do IMO...

 

 

But when it comes to politics religion and sports.. KEEP IT TO YOURSELF, otherwise there will be fall out. If you are going to use my form of entertainment to forward your opinionated agenda then I don't want you on the team ever. I like sports to be free of that non sense

 

I don't care if athletes or musicians or whatever use their fame as a platform to express their beliefs.  It didn't bother me when Tim Thomas refused to go to the White House (I think he's a tool for other reasons) and it didn't bother me when certain of the Patriots refused to go to the White House earlier this year.

 

Sometimes, it can really be helpful when someone famous steps out of the shadows.  Tommie Smith and John Carlos, for example.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 01:30 PM

In all seriousness, I think I'm more sold on Boughner than on Housley. I wouldn't be upset if we hired Phil at all, but I'm not nearly as emotionally attached to him as others are.


I don't know if Boughner has surpassed Housley for me, but he's moved into a 1a 1b situation. I wouldn't be upset at all if Botterill just went ahead and hired him.

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 01:36 PM

I don't know if Boughner has surpassed Housley for me, but he's moved into a 1a 1b situation. I wouldn't be upset at all if Botterill just went ahead and hired him.

Kinda curious what you think Housley has that Boogieman doesn't. 



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 02:01 PM

Kinda curious what you think Housley has that Boogieman doesn't.


It may well be unfair, but given the type of player he was, I have some concern that Boughner may be too sympathetic to the Deslauriers of the world for my liking. Maybe not players as bad as Deslauriers, but the bangers that don't do much else. Boughner says all the right things, and his work with Burns is encouraging, but it's something that'd be in the back of my head. I wouldn't have that concern with Housley.

Again, this may be wholly irrational, but he wouldn't be the first coach in history to be overly drawn to players like himself.

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 02:02 PM

Ya I knew almost nothing about Boughner prior to a couple of days ago.  After some research, I would be fine with him.  But please TPegs, no more 5 year deals.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 06:11 PM

Not so sure about Housley now and where his loyalties might be...http://m.startribune...-mix/425842693/


People with a sense of purpose. Makes me like them even more. Shorter plan ride. They can keep their address in Minnesota so their vote will count.

I don't know if Boughner has surpassed Housley for me, but he's moved into a 1a 1b situation. I wouldn't be upset at all if Botterill just went ahead and hired him.


He may be one of those that got an initial phone interview with a follow-up interview in Buffalo. If he were the first choice, he probably would've been hired by now. He's likely the back-up plan.

Edited by kas23, 02 June 2017 - 06:09 PM.


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Posted 02 June 2017 - 07:41 PM

University of Denver's Jim Montgomery has decided to remain in his position

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Posted 02 June 2017 - 07:49 PM

People with a sense of purpose. Makes me like them even more. Shorter plan ride. They can keep their address in Minnesota so their vote will count.

He may be one of those that got an initial phone interview with a follow-up interview in Buffalo. If he were the first choice, he probably would've been hired by now. He's likely the back-up plan.

 

Not necessarily. I think Botterill wants to talk to one or two guys from the teams still playing. One of them may be his top choice, or he's just doing as thorough of a job as he can.



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Posted 02 June 2017 - 08:27 PM

How many SS posters are no longer interested in Housley as first choice after learning that he and his wife are Republicans?

Why should we care? He's not running for political office and his wife lives in Michigan.