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#1 PASabreFan

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:51 PM

A certain poster will have to change his name to Twelve and a Half, but it has to be Lindy. Sylvester foreshadowed a president announcement tomorrow, and it makes perfect sense. Terry ain't going solo.

 

For Terry to already have someone lined up, it would have had to have been done pretty quietly, and that would be an easy thing with Lindy.

 

It's Pegula perfect and Russ likey for sure.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:54 PM

Holy mackerel.

I can totally see this happening.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 08:56 PM

A certain poster will have to change his name to Twelve and a Half, but it has to be Lindy. Sylvester foreshadowed a president announcement tomorrow, and it makes perfect sense. Terry ain't going solo.

 

For Terry to already have someone lined up, it would have had to have been done pretty quietly, and that would be an easy thing with Lindy.

 

It's Pegula perfect and Russ likey for sure.

 

Okay, this is a great line :lol:

 

Emotionally, I'd really like it. I just don't think it'd be especially smart. For whatever it's worth, my ideal structure going forward would be:

President of Hockey Ops: experienced executive (preferably the good kind of experience) who, in spite of experience, is "up" on modern hockey

GM: Up-and-coming assistant from a smart, successful organization

Coach: up-and-coming assistant from a smart, successful organization OR successful AHL head coach



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:00 PM

No chance Ruff is named President. I just don't buy the prediction. Wasn't there a poster on here who correctly predicted RJ returning to the commentary booth? Maybe if that guy made a prediction, I'd put stock in it.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:01 PM

Ruff coached the Pens Botterill in Buffalo. Check. Check. Check.


No chance Ruff is named President. I just don't buy the prediction. Wasn't there a poster on here who correctly predicted RJ returning to the commentary booth? Maybe if that guy made a prediction, I'd put stock in it.

Not sure if joking...



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:02 PM

Ruff coached the Pens Botterill in Buffalo. Check. Check. Check.

Not sure if joking...


;)

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:04 PM

Is the source for that Sylvester thing in the big "dan/tim fired" thread? I'm way behind in it still



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:05 PM

I'm like 80% sure this is going to happen.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:34 PM

Can someone explain the 12.5 line?

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:36 PM

Can someone explain the 12.5 line?

 

Ruff returning would cause 11 to grow some south of the border.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 09:47 PM

I like it. I'd rather Ruff be the HC but I like it. We do obviously need a President of hockey operations so it is a good fit.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:01 PM

Will not be Ruff.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:03 PM

A certain poster will have to change his name to Twelve and a Half, but it has to be Lindy. Sylvester foreshadowed a president announcement tomorrow, and it makes perfect sense. Terry ain't going solo.
 
For Terry to already have someone lined up, it would have had to have been done pretty quietly, and that would be an easy thing with Lindy.
 
It's Pegula perfect and Russ likey for sure.


Why would Ruff be any better as a Team President than Levy was as a GM?

The guy who knows how to race the car doesn't necessarily know anything about how to build it.

Would rather have Lombardi in that role. Put Fenton, Dudley, or Botteril in as the GM. Not sure who I'd like as coach. Gallant & Julien were my top 2 choices. Maybe Ruff.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:07 PM

I think tomorrow absolutely has to involve an introduction of a new president of hockey.

PA's call is right -- TPegs ain't flying solo (someone else said it as well (that TPegs will just hand the mic off to his new president)).

But Ruff? Ugh. I dunno. He still wants to coach, I am betting.

Should be interesting. That's for sure.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:06 AM

Lindy ain't going nowhere.

(This would be the most Pegula thing ever)

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 01:14 AM

John Wawrow says Pegula's are going solo. There will be no czar.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 03:58 AM

I like it. I'd rather Ruff be the HC but I like it. We do obviously need a President of hockey operations so it is a good fit.

How? Ruff is a coach....not a front office guy



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 04:28 AM

John Wawrow says Pegula's are going solo. There will be no czar.


Well, I'll be ....

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:41 AM

I do think terry had his mind made up a while ago...this did not just happen without a lot of thought and it is safe to assume he has someone in mind or yes, maybe he has already reached out to this person and knows he has him hired before firing GMTM and Blysma. A good business person would not leave the team without anybody to run the ship when very important dates are upcoming like the draft and free agency etc...



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 05:44 AM

^

I'm well past thinking that the Pegulas are (or somehow must be) good business people, at least insofar as pro sports franchises go.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:05 AM

Ruff will have absolutely nothing to do with the future of the Sabres, IMO.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:05 AM

you may be right but then again I do think they hired the best available at the time and missed out on the big fish (Babcock). Maybe it was because of GMTM's attitude or outlook that babs did not come here. either way, I think after losing out on the babs sweepstakes he had to do something and Blysma was the best available at that time. I thought it was a good hiring and many others did to at the time...there was no way of knowing he'd preach a old and tired system that hasn;t worked in the NHL for at least 5 or 6 years



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:29 AM

you may be right but then again I do think they hired the best available at the time and missed out on the big fish (Babcock). Maybe it was because of GMTM's attitude or outlook that babs did not come here. either way, I think after losing out on the babs sweepstakes he had to do something and Blysma was the best available at that time. I thought it was a good hiring and many others did to at the time...there was no way of knowing he'd preach a old and tired system that hasn;t worked in the NHL for at least 5 or 6 years

Wouldn't this have been discussed in an interview?



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:46 AM

Wouldn't this have been discussed in an interview?


I vaguely remember some bullsh!t about him studying hockey during his time out of coaching. Some garbage about him looking at the game in a different way now, and he would implement some wonder system, never before seen. (makes'#### off' hand motion)

Edited by ubkev, 21 April 2017 - 06:47 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:51 AM

John Wawrow says Pegula's are going solo. There will be no czar.

Welp. OK. Good to see that (apparently) Kim will be there.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 06:59 AM

I heard their promoting the chief engineer over there as GM. My old high school buddy

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:03 AM

I can't possible imagine that Tpegs would have had the foresight to already have someone in place.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:06 AM

you may be right but then again I do think they hired the best available at the time and missed out on the big fish (Babcock). Maybe it was because of GMTM's attitude or outlook that babs did not come here. either way, I think after losing out on the babs sweepstakes he had to do something and Blysma was the best available at that time. I thought it was a good hiring and many others did to at the time...there was no way of knowing he'd preach a old and tired system that hasn;t worked in the NHL for at least 5 or 6 years

They hired the best known, not best available. If he were best available he wouldn't have been fired in 2 years.

Edited by ShadowLiger, 21 April 2017 - 07:06 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:54 AM

and despite all of this, Garth Snow still has a job...



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 07:58 AM

and despite all of this, Garth Snow still has a job...


He got his team to the playoffs by fixing the defense woth Leddy and Boychuk.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:05 AM

He got his team to the playoffs by fixing the defense woth Leddy and Boychuk.

They returned to form this year.  I look forward to him giving away John Tavares next.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:12 AM

It was discussed at great length on the Insitgators yesterday. Perfect role for Lindy.

How? Ruff is a coach....not a front office guy

Ruff has the knowledge, tons of expierence albeit it coaching. I think an advisor, or President of OPS would be a good fit for him.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:14 AM

John Wawrow says Pegula's are going solo. There will be no czar.

 

I don't see that.  He said the Pegulas will oversee the process.  Of course they will, they are the owners.  It doesn't mean they will run the process.  I am a product manager, I oversee a lot of things, but I don't do them.  I just make sure they get done according to my vision.

 

The Pegulas can begin overseeing the process by bringing in someone to RUN the process.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:24 AM

While I said above that I can see it happening, I don't think Lindy will return as President/czar. I'd bet he wants to coach again.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:27 AM

Lombardi as hockey President, Julien BriseBois as GM, and Phil Housley as coach. We win the 2nd overall pick and take Nico Hischier.



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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:36 AM

John Wawrow says Pegula's are going solo. There will be no czar.


If TP has a hockey czar, with multiple knowledgeable layers between him and GM, he'll be unable to easily meddle and play puppet master. This isn't going to happen. Can you see him having the same structure as TOR? No way.

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Posted 21 April 2017 - 08:47 AM

Hiring him to advise on whom to select as GM and coach is a good idea.  He's been in the league one way or another since 1979.  He knows what works and what doesn't--and who works and who doesn't.  If that's a president's role, he can and should be on the short list.

 

Hiring him as a GM (as has been suggested elsewhere) is a bad idea.  Sure, he can evaluate talent and I'm sure his voice was heard at the draft table, but he's never negotiated a trade, never dealt with the salary cap, never negotiated term or compensation, etc.


Edited by Eleven, 21 April 2017 - 08:48 AM.


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Posted 21 April 2017 - 09:28 AM

Lombardi as hockey President, Julien BriseBois as GM, and Phil Housley as coach. We win the 2nd overall pick and take Nico Hischier.

 

I'm planning the parade.

 

NICO!!