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Posted 28 July 2015 - 09:56 AM

Let's have at it. No politics. Just good old fishin and huntin talk.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:02 AM

Someday I'll get into fishing. I should start looking for someplace around me in the Buffalo I can just fish off the bank. I have a couple rods and a tackle box, so on some morning when the wife is busy I could pretty easily slip away and just fish for a while.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:04 AM

Someday I'll get into fishing. I should start looking for someplace around me in the Buffalo I can just fish off the bank. I have a couple rods and a tackle box, so on some morning when the wife is busy I could pretty easily slip away and just fish for a while.


I'm curious what the more experienced fishermen here use for their setups. I don't really know much about fishing beyond putting a line in the water.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:06 AM

Took some of my younger ones fishin' last week at a fishing hole that was, by all appearances and reports, a sunfish/rock bass hangout - the idea being, let's catch a bunch without concern for getting a big one.

 

Well, 15 minutes in, the littlest kid reels in a tiny little thing, and a frickin' MONSTER bass follows it up to the surface and creates an explosion at the water's surface. We didn't land it, of course. And I could not tell whether the big fish actually hit the hook, but there was no little fish and no bait on the hook when we retrieved it. Holy smokes. Such thrills. That incident alone was worth it.

 

And we did catch a bunch of fish -- some pretty decent sized sunnies, too.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:11 AM

Took some of my younger ones fishin' last week at a fishing hole that was, by all appearances and reports, a sunfish/rock bass hangout - the idea being, let's catch a bunch without concern for getting a big one.

 

Well, 15 minutes in, the littlest kid reels in a tiny little thing, and a frickin' MONSTER bass follows it up to the surface and creates an explosion at the water's surface. We didn't land it, of course. And I could not tell whether the big fish actually hit the hook, but there was no little fish and no bait on the hook when we retrieved it. Holy smokes. Such thrills. That incident alone was worth it.

 

And we did catch a bunch of fish -- some pretty decent sized sunnies, too.

 

I think going out just with the idea of catching anything is great when you have kids. That's what my dad always did with my brother and I. We used to fish at Tow Path Park on Niagara St when we were kids. Put a big sinker and a minnow on there and just drop the line straight down. 

I think I'd like to catch and keep fish these days. I wouldn't mind trying to catch dinner on Sunday mornings. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:12 AM

I want to fish too.  I caught a mess of sunfish this spring, but I want to catch trout and eat them.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:21 AM

Someday I'll get into fishing. I should start looking for someplace around me in the Buffalo I can just fish off the bank. I have a couple rods and a tackle box, so on some morning when the wife is busy I could pretty easily slip away and just fish for a while.

 

Also, you're like a 30 minute walk from Broderick Park on Squaw Island or whatever they're calling it. Go fish the pier or the canal. We used to fish the pier when I was a kid. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:38 AM

Took some of my younger ones fishin' last week at a fishing hole that was, by all appearances and reports, a sunfish/rock bass hangout - the idea being, let's catch a bunch without concern for getting a big one.

 

Well, 15 minutes in, the littlest kid reels in a tiny little thing, and a frickin' MONSTER bass follows it up to the surface and creates an explosion at the water's surface. We didn't land it, of course. And I could not tell whether the big fish actually hit the hook, but there was no little fish and no bait on the hook when we retrieved it. Holy smokes. Such thrills. That incident alone was worth it.

 

And we did catch a bunch of fish -- some pretty decent sized sunnies, too.

 

 

I think going out just with the idea of catching anything is great when you have kids. That's what my dad always did with my brother and I. We used to fish at Tow Path Park on Niagara St when we were kids. Put a big sinker and a minnow on there and just drop the line straight down. 

I think I'd like to catch and keep fish these days. I wouldn't mind trying to catch dinner on Sunday mornings. 

 

My parents used to take us to Tillman park in Clarence and "fish". You could stick a  piece of hotdog on a hook and the little fish that were in there would go CRAZY for it. It looked like pirahna's going after a cow. They'd bite on, you'd real 'em in, and toss 'em back. They wouldn't even get hooked, they'd just be suckered on to there. Hours of fun as an 8 year old.

 

 

Also, you're like a 30 minute walk from Broderick Park on Squaw Island or whatever they're calling it. Go fish the pier or the canal. We used to fish the pier when I was a kid. 

 

I see people fishing out there all the time, I should do that. I could just stop on my way home from work, haha.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:43 AM

My parents used to take us to Tillman park in Clarence and "fish". You could stick a  piece of hotdog on a hook and the little fish that were in there would go CRAZY for it. It looked like pirahna's going after a cow. They'd bite on, you'd real 'em in, and toss 'em back. They wouldn't even get hooked, they'd just be suckered on to there. Hours of fun as an 8 year old.

 

 

 

I see people fishing out there all the time, I should do that. I could just stop on my way home from work, haha.

 

Exactly. You're actually in a great spot for fishing. If I remember correctly there's a bait shop right next to Resurgence that is pretty good. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:44 AM

there's a bait shop right next to Resurgence that is pretty good. 

 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:47 AM

I guess I had a different image of a rod and gun thread.

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:49 AM

I'm curious what the more experienced fishermen here use for their setups. I don't really know much about fishing beyond putting a line in the water.

 

Any 6-7' medium weight rod and spinning reel loaded with 6lb test line will work more than adequately for 90% of the fishing around western NY.  It may not be ideal for any of it, but it certainly will work just fine.  I'd bet that the vast majority of fish caught in the area are caught on a set up like I just described.  It will work for drowning bait, casting crankbaits, jigging, tossing spinners at trout, etc. etc.  No need for anything fancy unless you are really getting into a specific form of fishing.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:51 AM

Oh, fishing and hunting. Never mind. teehee

 

I have a whopper of a story. May Jack Eichel come down with Jack Eichel's Disease and never play a game for the Sabres if it's not true. I took my 16-year-old nephew fishing at the Marilla Reservoir just outside Bradford. Beautiful spot. He was reeling in a smallmouth bass. He almost had it out of the water; he was letting it tire itself out, whatever that means in fishing parlance. I don't fish. I just watch.

 

I was talking to a guy on a bridge overlooking my nephew just below us and we turned away from him for a second when he shouted. We turned back to see an osprey attacking the fish, all within an arm's length of my nephew. This very impressive bird of prey, probably two feet tall, took the fish, the hook, the fly, the kitchen sink, and flew away, showing off its five-foot wing span. My nephew looked like the father from A Christmas Story after the dogs carried the turkey away. He was just dumbstruck. We all were. Quite a smart bird. We figure it was up in a tree watching the scene, biding its time.

 

The night before, same spot, a bald eagle sat way up in a pine tree for 10 minutes, intently watching a beaver swim around. I had time to job back around the reservoir and tell my nephew to come look. He wasn't interested. He's seen eagles before. The moral of the story is: either you come to the bird prey of prey or it comes to you.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:53 AM

Someday I'll get into fishing. I should start looking for someplace around me in the Buffalo I can just fish off the bank. I have a couple rods and a tackle box, so on some morning when the wife is busy I could pretty easily slip away and just fish for a while.

 

I can't even begin to count the number of places to fish within a 20 minute drive of Buffalo.  To the north, the Niagara Rive gorge has lots of access and great fishing year round.  20 minutes to the south Eighteen Mile Creek has a fantastic fall-to-spring trout run, and bass in the warm weather months.  Of course, there is the entire waterfront from downtown to Isleview park  in Tonawanda.  The Erie Canal in Tonawanda also has really good bass fishing.  Little Buffalo Creek in Elma is stocked with trout each Spring.  Tift Farm is great place to get started.

 

Oh man, western NY does NOT lack for fishing opportunities.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:55 AM

Oh, fishing and hunting. Never mind. teehee

 

I have a whopper of a story. May Jack Eichel come down with Jack Eichel's Disease and never play a game for the Sabres if it's not true. I took my 16-year-old nephew fishing at the Marilla Reservoir just outside Bradford. Beautiful spot. He was reeling in a smallmouth bass. He almost had it out of the water; he was letting it tire itself out, whatever that means in fishing parlance. I don't fish. I just watch.

 

I was talking to a guy on a bridge overlooking my nephew just below us and we turned away from him for a second when he shouted. We turned back to see an osprey attacking the fish, all within an arm's length of my nephew. This very impressive bird of prey, probably a foot and a half tall, took the fish, the hook, the fly, the kitchen sink, and flew away, showing off its five-foot wing span. My nephew looked like the father from A Christmas Story after the dogs carried the turkey away. He was just dumbstruck. We all were. Quite a smart bird. We figure it was up in a tree watching the scene, biding its time.

 

The night before, same spot, a bald eagle sat way up in a pine tree for 10 minutes, intently watching a beaver swim around. I had time to job back around the reservoir and tell my nephew to come look. He wasn't interested. He's seen eagles before. The moral of the story is: either you come to the bird prey of prey or it comes to you.

 

:lol:

 

Any 6-7' medium weight rod and spinning reel loaded with 6lb test line will work more than adequately for 90% of the fishing around western NY.  It may not be ideal for any of it, but it certainly will work just fine.  I'd bet that the vast majority of fish caught in the area are caught on a set up like I just described.  It will work for drowning bait, casting crankbaits, jigging, tossing spinners at trout, etc. etc.  No need for anything fancy unless you are really getting into a specific form of fishing.

 

So what's the attraction of the open spinning reel? Is it just easier to service when it gets screwed up? I was always adamantly against them as a kid for no particular reason. I guess I didn't like the look of em.  :blush:



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:56 AM

I can't even begin to count the number of places to fish within a 20 minute drive of Buffalo.  To the north, the Niagara Rive gorge has lots of access and great fishing year round.  20 minutes to the south Eighteen Mile Creek has a fantastic fall-to-spring trout run, and bass in the warm weather months.  Of course, there is the entire waterfront from downtown to Isleview park  in Tonawanda.  The Erie Canal in Tonawanda also has really good bass fishing.  Little Buffalo Creek in Elma is stocked with trout each Spring.  Tift Farm is great place to get started.

 

Oh man, western NY does NOT lack for fishing opportunities.

 

 

I've heard we're becoming a destination for some of it, which is really cool. I've gotta grab my stuff from my parents and head out. I was going to get a license anyway because I'm heading up to the Adirondacks in a few weeks, so I might as well get a full year pass and get a jump on it.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 10:59 AM

Oh, fishing and hunting. Never mind. teehee

 

I have a whopper of a story. May Jack Eichel come down with Jack Eichel's Disease and never play a game for the Sabres if it's not true. I took my 16-year-old nephew fishing at the Marilla Reservoir just outside Bradford. Beautiful spot. He was reeling in a smallmouth bass. He almost had it out of the water; he was letting it tire itself out, whatever that means in fishing parlance. I don't fish. I just watch.

 

I was talking to a guy on a bridge overlooking my nephew just below us and we turned away from him for a second when he shouted. We turned back to see an osprey attacking the fish, all within an arm's length of my nephew. This very impressive bird of prey, probably two feet tall, took the fish, the hook, the fly, the kitchen sink, and flew away, showing off its five-foot wing span. My nephew looked like the father from A Christmas Story after the dogs carried the turkey away. He was just dumbstruck. We all were. Quite a smart bird. We figure it was up in a tree watching the scene, biding its time.

 

The night before, same spot, a bald eagle sat way up in a pine tree for 10 minutes, intently watching a beaver swim around. I had time to job back around the reservoir and tell my nephew to come look. He wasn't interested. He's seen eagles before. The moral of the story is: either you come to the bird prey of prey or it comes to you.

 

Last month I "caught" a cormorant.  Diving, fish eating bird for those that don't know.  I was casting a lure out in Lake Ontario and one dove in after my lure, and grabbed it.  Fortunately he was able to free himself from the hooks.  I did NOT want to deal with that.


:lol:

 

 

So what's the attraction of the open spinning reel? Is it just easier to service when it gets screwed up? I was always adamantly against them as a kid for no particular reason. I guess I didn't like the look of em.  :blush:

 

You can cast further with them than with spin casting reels.  And the drags are usually better too.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:12 AM

Last month I "caught" a cormorant.  Diving, fish eating bird for those that don't know.  I was casting a lure out in Lake Ontario and one dove in after my lure, and grabbed it.  Fortunately he was able to free himself from the hooks.  I did NOT want to deal with that.


 

You can cast further with them than with spin casting reels.  And the drags are usually better too.

 

So they're just a common sense better performer. Got it.  :P 

If I was going to be fishing somewhere like the Genesee, let's say right here at this access , what should I be expecting to fish for? 


Nevermind, I've got my answer: Brown Trout. 

http://www.dec.ny.go...roatkacreek.pdf



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:12 AM

That is a fantastic fish story, PA.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:13 AM

So they're just a common sense better performer. Got it.  :P 

If I was going to be fishing somewhere like the Genesee, let's say right here at this access , what should I be expecting to fish for? 

 

Warm water fish.  Bass.  Northern Pike.  Maybe panfsh (sunfish, rockbass, etc.).  I've heard that there are walleyes in the Genesee but they aren't common.  There is a creek emptying into the river a bit north of where you posted.  The mouth of that creek would be a great place to try if you can get to it.  Under the bridge, especially around the pilings might hold fish too.  The upper Genesee can be tough.  It is kind of murky, which makes things a bit more challenging.

 

Pro tip.  Don't use a bobber.  Use a sinker and get your bait on the bottom.  Most fish are on the river bed, not in the middle or top of the water column.  Yes, you will snag things and lose hooks and sinkers.  Buy lots of them.  If you ain't snaggin stuff, you ain't putting your bait where the fish are.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:17 AM

That is a fantastic fish story, PA.

Careful observers will note that my edit was making the osprey two feet tall instead of a foot and a half. What's a rod thread without exaggerated measurements?



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:20 AM

Warm water fish.  Bass.  Northern Pike.  Maybe panfsh (sunfish, rockbass, etc.).  I've heard that there are walleyes in the Genesee but they aren't common.  There is a creek emptying into the river a bit north of where you posted.  The mouth of that creek would be a great place to try if you can get to it.  Under the bridge, especially around the pilings might hold fish too.  The upper Genesee can be tough.  It is kind of murky, which makes things a bit more challenging.

 

Pro tip.  Don't use a bobber.  Use a sinker and get your bait on the bottom.  Most fish are on the river bed, not in the middle or top of the water column.  Yes, you will snag things and lose hooks and sinkers.  Buy lots of them.  If you ain't snaggin stuff, you ain't putting your bait where the fish are.

 

Look up, I found the DEC info for where I'm fishing. Looks like Brown Trout. 

So let's talk about bait. What should I think about using and what should I avoid like the plague? 

And what's good eatin' for brown trout size wise? 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:27 AM

Look up, I found the DEC info for where I'm fishing. Looks like Brown Trout. 

So let's talk about bait. What should I think about using and what should I avoid like the plague? 

And what's good eatin' for brown trout size wise? 

 

I'm highly skeptical that you'll find any trout in that stretch of the Genesee.  Water is way too warm.

 

Bait...... there is some regulations regarding minnows now.  Look them up.  You can't transport them very far anymore.  They are trying to prevent the introduction of non-native species in alot of the waterways.  Nightcrawlers work for almost any species, including trout.  Salted minnows work for trout (they are dried and salted, not alive).  Crayfish will work for bass and walleyes.

As for eatin size, I think the NY regs limit to nothing under 9".  9" is kind of small for me but certainly taste good. There is no shame in keeping and eating a 9" fish. You won't find any lake run trout there because you are above the falls so too big won't be a concern.


Oh..... now I see your edit.  Your linked map showed the Genesee River but if you are fishing Oatka Creek, that is a whole different ball of wax.  Yes.  Trout.  Be aware, parts of Oatka Creek are no bait allowed.  Make sure you are in an area that allows bait.

 

If you are going to fish Oatka for trout go with small worms or salted minnows.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:28 AM

I'm highly skeptical that you'll find any trout in that stretch of the Genesee.  Water is way too warm.

 

Bait...... there is some regulations regarding minnows now.  Look them up.  You can't transport them very far anymore.  They are trying to prevent the introduction of non-native species in alot of the waterways.  Nightcrawlers work for almost any species, including trout.  Salted minnows work for trout (they are dried and salted, not alive).  Crayfish will work for bass and walleyes.

As for eatin size, I think the NY regs limit to nothing under 9".  9" is kind of small for me but certainly taste good. There is no shame in keeping and eating a 9" fish. You won't find any lake run trout there because you are above the falls so too big won't be a concern.


Oh..... now I see your edit.  Your linked map showed the Genesee River but if you are fishing Oatka Creek, that is a whole different ball of wax.  Yes.  Trout.  Be aware, parts of Oatka Creek are no bait allowed.  Make sure you are in an area that allows bait.

 

If you are going to fish Oatka for trout go with small worms or salted minnows.

 

I need like a little cheat sheet I can laminate and keep with me so I know what the hell I'm catching and what the rules are for keeping em. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:30 AM

If you ain't snaggin stuff, you ain't putting your bait where the fish are.

 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:30 AM

I need like a little cheat sheet I can laminate and keep with me so I know what the hell I'm catching and what the rules are for keeping em. 

 

They call them smart phones today.   :P



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:30 AM

I need like a little cheat sheet I can laminate and keep with me so I know what the hell I'm catching and what the rules are for keeping em. 

 

Get a license. They have helpful info available when you get one.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:44 AM

They call them smart phones today.   :P

 

Man I don't want anything to do with a smart phone while I'm fishing.  B-)


Get a license. They have helpful info available when you get one.

 

Cool, I'll have to see what they have. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:46 AM

Man I don't want anything to do with a smart phone while I'm fishing.  B-)


 

Cool, I'll have to see what they have. 

 

Tell you what, when you are ready to go, give me a heads up.  If it works with my schedule I'll meet you out there and see what we can catch.  I'll bring everything we'll need.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 11:52 AM

Tell you what, when you are ready to go, give me a heads up.  If it works with my schedule I'll meet you out there and see what we can catch.  I'll bring everything we'll need.

 

Intriguing. 

What's my price range on an acceptable rod and reel? Should it put one together from separate parts or buy a combo? I think I might just pull the trigger before the weekend. 



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:04 PM

Intriguing. 

What's my price range on an acceptable rod and reel? Should it put one together from separate parts or buy a combo? I think I might just pull the trigger before the weekend. 

 

Combos are fine.  It's been awhile since I've priced out a basic combo but I would think somewhere in the $50-75 would get it done.

 

If you are going to buy something soon, buy an outfit like I described above.  It will be a workable jack of all trades.  Then, if you find that you prefer one kind of fishing over others (for example small streams for trout vs. ponds and docks for bass) you can get a set up that is more closely suited to that kind of fishing.

 

For example, if we met up at Oatka I would bring along two sets of ultralight rods and reels.  They cast small lures and baits more easily and make catching small fish seem like you are catching larger fish.  If I were taking you to Lake Ontario when the steelhead are running I'd bring along a much different rod and reel.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:12 PM

Combos are fine. It's been awhile since I've priced out a basic combo but I would think somewhere in the $50-75 would get it done.

If you are going to buy something soon, buy an outfit like I described above. It will be a workable jack of all trades. Then, if you find that you prefer one kind of fishing over others (for example small streams for trout vs. ponds and docks for bass) you can get a set up that is more closely suited to that kind of fishing.

For example, if we met up at Oatka I would bring along two sets of ultralight rods and reels. They cast small lures and baits more easily and make catching small fish seem like you are catching larger fish. If I were taking you to Lake Ontario when the steelhead are running I'd bring along a much different rod and reel.


Cool info.

Okay, so say I actually catch something and it's a keeper. What do I need to do to get it home and eat it?

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:16 PM

Cool info.

Okay, so say I actually catch something and it's a keeper. What do I need to do to get it home and eat it?

 

Get it cold quickly.  If I am catching to take home I bring a small soft sided cooler with ice packs in it.  Fish go in the cooler and cleaned when I get home.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:19 PM

You'll need enough ice to get them to Canandaigua, at which point I will clean and prepare them for you, and possibly even allow you to taste some of it.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:30 PM

Best. Thread. Ever.

 

 

D4rk, that part of the Genny is slow and murky. I think that you would catch bullhead and carp there (not great for eating or telling your friends what you caught, but both can be really fun to catch).

 

I just bought a pole that was the lowest price before being embarrassed ($25) and the reel that I have I paid $9.99 10 years ago (30 years ago it would have cost $100). There are very few place were I go where I feel I can't use that setup.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:31 PM

Look up, I found the DEC info for where I'm fishing. Looks like Brown Trout. 

So let's talk about bait. What should I think about using and what should I avoid like the plague? 

And what's good eatin' for brown trout size wise? 

 

If you are going to fish Oatka I would suggest you check the regs closely.  Depending on the stretch of water you fish you could be in a catch-n-release section as well as a section that doesn't allow bait.  There are also size limitations if keeping fish.  It's one of the reasons catch and release is so popular - a lot less hassle than trying to remember whether you can legally keep a fish and it helps preserve the resource too.  FWIW some of the Oatka is considered "blue ribbon" water and some of the best trout fishing in NYS.  I don't fish all that often but when I do I primarily fly fish and the Oatka is one of my go-to streams.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:41 PM

I also want to add that I have used my Walmart Theory of fishing to great results.

 

If you go to an area that you are unfamiliar with, go to the local Walmart fishing section (they are usually really good) and buy the pre-loaded mini tackle boxes filled with an assortment of lures. They tell you what they will catch and give you at least one of something that will work.

 

My theory is that a big corporation like Walmart has full teams of people to determine what products are moving. If something doesn't sell, they take it off the shelf. So, basically, what you are seeing on the shelves is what is working in that region. You'll notice that the all-in-ones in Niagara Falls aren't the same as the ones in Canandaigua or Willmington, NC.

 

I haven't been disappointed by them yet.


Edited by SwampD, 28 July 2015 - 12:42 PM.


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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:43 PM

Best. Thread. Ever.

 

 

D4rk, that part of the Genny is slow and murky. I think that you would catch bullhead and carp there (not great for eating or telling your friends what you caught, but both can be really fun to catch).

 

I just bought a pole that was the lowest price before being embarrassed ($25) and the reel that I have I paid $9.99 10 years ago (30 years ago it would have cost $100). There are very few place were I go where I feel I can't use that setup.

 

Check his edit.  He's actually looking to fish Oatka.


You'll need enough ice to get them to Canandaigua, at which point I will clean and prepare them for you, and possibly even allow you to taste some of it.

 

You know trout fishing, whiskey, and cigars all kind of go hand in hand, right?  You are missing out.



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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:44 PM

Check his edit.  He's actually looking to fish Oatka.


 

 

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Posted 28 July 2015 - 12:50 PM

gottit.


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