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#241 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 09:10 AM

rediculous!


Yep! :doh:

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:08 AM

Just one of those things, I think. I still say "the 400" or "the 90", but I don't refer to any of the routes here that way. "The" is just part of the name.

I've been thinking about this. Do people really say "the 90"? I know they say "the 400" or "the 190", but those roads are finite. They begin and end in WNY. They're ours. When you say "the 290" you mean just that, the entire 290. I don't recall people saying "the 219" either. Maybe they do.

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:15 AM

I've been thinking about this. Do people really say "the 90"? I know they say "the 400" or "the 190", but those roads are finite. They begin and end in WNY. They're ours. When you say "the 290" you mean just that, the entire 290. I don't recall people saying "the 219" either. Maybe they do.



I dont say "The 90" I say the thruway. But I do use The for all of the others......

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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:17 AM

I've been thinking about this. Do people really say "the 90"? I know they say "the 400" or "the 190", but those roads are finite. They begin and end in WNY. They're ours. When you say "the 290" you mean just that, the entire 290. I don't recall people saying "the 219" either. Maybe they do.


I say "the" for the 90, 190, 33, and 290 offhand. Not "the 198" (Scajaquada) or "the 5" (Route 5). I think it's a distinction between highways. For fun, say the "Youngman Expressway" and wait for the confusion.

My wife referred to US30 last night (a highway near my house) as "the 30" and it sounded really strange. :)

Edited by MattPie, 07 January 2014 - 10:18 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

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I say "the" for the 90, 190, 33, and 290 offhand. Not "the 198" (Scajaquada) or "the 5" (Route 5). I think it's a distinction between highways. For fun, say the "Youngman Expressway" and wait for the confusion.

My wife referred to US30 last night (a highway near my house) as "the 30" and it sounded really strange. :)


All of that is the same for me in regard to WNY roads. In these parts it's different, interstate 40 is never "the 40", but I-40. US Route 1 is simply "US1". I-440, the loop around Raleigh is called "the beltline". I once got a call from a colleague who was trying to visit Niagara Falls, he was on the 290 and he called me asking for directions:

"Hey Claude, I'm on the beltline near Buffalo, how do I get to Niagara Falls?"

Edited by Claude_Verret, 07 January 2014 - 10:55 AM.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 02:41 PM

"when everything is said in done"

Edited by Assquatch, 07 January 2014 - 07:13 PM.


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Posted 07 January 2014 - 05:54 PM

I've been thinking about this. Do people really say "the 90"? I know they say "the 400" or "the 190", but those roads are finite. They begin and end in WNY. They're ours. When you say "the 290" you mean just that, the entire 290. I don't recall people saying "the 219" either. Maybe they do.


I say "the 90" or the thruway. I refer to most highways/freeways as with "the ____". But State Routes are Route 20, 5, 33.

Although there's an exception to be made for which part of Route 33 we're talking about. Before it becomes the Kensington it is Route 33. Then it becomes "The 33".

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Posted 08 January 2014 - 02:12 AM

Gonna

Edited by Andrew Amerk, 09 January 2014 - 03:48 AM.


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Posted 08 January 2014 - 10:47 AM

ink, shouldn't that be a wrap?

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:06 PM

ink, shouldn't that be a wrap?

Never thought about shutting it down...

Before I do, I have some more words to get off my chest.

In the long standing tradition of people pronouncing things incorrectly, if I had a dollar for every WGR employee that pronounces Grigs name "Gregorenko" , I wouldn't have to work another day in my life.

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 09:43 PM

Never thought about shutting it down...

Before I do, I have some more words to get off my chest.

In the long standing tradition of people pronouncing things incorrectly, if I had a dollar for every WGR employee that pronounces Grigs name "Gregorenko" , I wouldn't have to work another day in my life.


How do we know that that isn't the correct pronunciation?

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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:16 PM

Airports posting "cancelled"... Cancelled? CANCELLED?

We fought a ###### war to spell it "canceled". Our way, not like the Brits. The AMERICAN way! Freedom fries!

Also, it is "gray", not "grey"... Same war. Same benefits.

Edited by SDS, 10 January 2014 - 10:56 AM.
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Posted 09 January 2014 - 10:40 PM

This thread was built over an ancient Indian burial grownd.


Real Indians or American Indians/Native Americans? Native Americans or American Indians? Oh, fun.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 12:01 AM

Airports posting "cancellations"... Cancellations? CANCELLATIONS?

We fought a ###### war to spell it "cancelations". Our way, not like the Brits. The AMERICAN way! Freedom fries!

Also, it is "gray", not "grey"... Same war. Same benefits.


"Cancelation" is not a word without another l. Think of those things in the sky, made up of stars. Spelled similarly. Or google it and see what happens.

And it's grey. Sorry, bud. Just check the side of the AMERICAN bus.

And two wars.

Edited by Eleven, 10 January 2014 - 12:03 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 04:50 AM

Real Indians or American Indians/Native Americans? Native Americans or American Indians? Oh, fun.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 08:57 AM

This is the problem I have with the English language. My OCD is happier when I have a set of rules I can follow blindly. When there are so many exceptions to rules it's maddening - e. g. my "well is sometimes an adjective" mistake earlier in this thread.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 09:58 AM

A phrase that sticks in my craw is "have a catch" it's called playing catch. The first time I ever heard the phrase was my first week of freshman year, I began talking to a kid in my dorm about baseball and sharing stories from each of our illustrious high school careers, so at the end of the conversation he says "Hey, we should have a catch sometime". I had no idea what he was talking about. He was from Long Island so I guess that's what they say in those parts. It still annoys me when I hear it, especially when Kevin Costner says it in Field Of Dreams.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:01 AM

A phrase that sticks in my craw is "have a catch" it's called playing catch. The first time I ever heard the phrase was my first week of freshman year, I began talking to a kid in my dorm about baseball and sharing stories from each of our illustrious high school careers, so at the end of the conversation he says "Hey, we should have a catch sometime". I had no idea what he was talking about. He was from Long Island so I guess that's what they say in those parts. It still annoys me when I hear it, especially when Kevin Costner says it in Field Of Dreams.


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Posted 10 January 2014 - 10:55 AM

"Cancelation" is not a word without another l. Think of those things in the sky, made up of stars. Spelled similarly. Or google it and see what happens.

And it's grey. Sorry, bud. Just check the side of the AMERICAN bus.

And two wars.


Doh! I meant "Cancelled". Obviously, on the flight board it says "cancelled" and not "cancellations", which is what I was referring to. In the US it is "canceled".

And the color between black and white is indeed gray here in the US, not grey.

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Posted 10 January 2014 - 11:19 AM

Doh! I meant "Cancelled". Obviously, on the flight board it says "cancelled" and not "cancellations", which is what I was referring to. In the US it is "canceled".

And the color between black and white is indeed gray here in the US, not grey.


It is definitely canceled in the US. I'm not sure when that change happened, but it was some time after I was in grade school. (Look at an older dictionary, maybe something mid-20th c. And NO, that is NOT when I was in grade school!) Personally, I suspect that it happened when MS started spell-check.

You're in a little bit of a grey area on the other one. (I fully realize that most people in the US spell it with an 'a.')

Edited by Eleven, 10 January 2014 - 11:20 AM.


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Posted 11 January 2014 - 12:21 PM

Dick Vitale is absolutely hammering CJ Fair's name. He's saying something along the lines of Fear.

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 04:20 PM

Statue of Limitations. :lol:

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Posted 16 January 2014 - 07:39 PM

Dick Vitale is absolutely hammering CJ Fair's name. He's saying something along the lines of Fear.


I don't know why that man is allowed to broadcast games. Or, frankly, why he is allowed access to a microphone. He's a nice man, for sure, but he is as annoying as anyone can be. Is it because he was the announcer for Jim Valvano's last game? Is that why, thirty years later, we have to deal with him?

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 08:24 PM

"Something's a little commie." Commie. Fishy. Askew. Out of kilter. That's a saying, right? I used it today and the other person had never heard it. So I went to Google to find an example, and I found nothing. Am I crazy?

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 09:38 PM

yes

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 10:17 PM

yes


So it IS a saying!

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 10:21 PM

I've never heard that one before.

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Posted 26 January 2014 - 11:02 PM

So it IS a saying!


No, you're crazy. That's not a thing. Lol

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 08:31 AM

I've never heard that one before.


Can't say I've come across that one either. Is it Cold War lingo?

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 10:39 AM

Nope, never heard it either. I prefer "all catawumpus" for that meaning.

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Posted 27 January 2014 - 02:29 PM

never heard that