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Posted 17 September 2017 - 09:15 AM

Have you ever tailgated at the Ralph? ;)

 

Nice.

 

Speaking of which, I hope our natives show Charlotte a thing or two.  I will be disappointed if there is not folding table carnage.



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Posted 17 September 2017 - 09:23 AM

Nice.

Speaking of which, I hope our natives show Charlotte a thing or two. I will be disappointed if there is not folding table carnage.


Now, I don't know about Buffalo, but as far as central NY goes, I could go to Charlotte and find 60 people I graduated from high school with. Huge CNY presence in Charlotte.

AKA-there will be people ###### in the parking lot.

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Posted 17 September 2017 - 09:25 AM

Now, I don't know about Buffalo, but as far as central NY goes, I could go to Charlotte and find 60 people I graduated from high school with. Huge CNY presence in Charlotte.

AKA-there will be people ###### in the parking lot.

 

The Buffalo diaspora in Virginia and North Carolina is amazing.



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 02:14 PM

Jake LaMotta, the Bronx Bull has passed at age 95. RIP champ. No middleweight or welterweight ever put him on the mat. One of the greatest chins ever.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 08:48 PM

Judge is the only rookie in Yankees history to have 100 walks, 100 runs, and 100 RBIs in a single season. He is also only the 3rd rookie of all time to put up those numbers. The other two? Al Rosen and Ted Williams



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 09:52 PM

Don't forget Judge's other wonderful stat.  Al Rosen had 72 strikeouts in his rookie season, Ted Williams had 64.  Judge currently sits at 199, more than both combined and then some.



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:00 PM

Don't forget Judge's other wonderful stat.  Al Rosen had 72 strikeouts in his rookie season, Ted Williams had 64.  Judge currently sits at 199, more than both combined and then some.

2017 there are an average of 8.25 SO / game. In 1939, Williams' rookie season, there was an average of 3.44

 

I'd like to see ol' Teddy hit 100mph followed by a 88mph slider. 



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:07 PM

2017 there are an average of 8.25 SO / game. In 1939, Williams' rookie season, there was an average of 3.44
 
I'd like to see ol' Teddy hit 100mph followed by a 88mph slider.


Judge is in danger of becoming the next Dave Kingman and or Rob Deer. If he hits it, it's going to go far. If, of course, he hits it.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:08 PM

Judge is in danger of becoming the next Dave Kingman and or Rob Deer. If he hits it, it's going to go far. If, of course, he hits it.

.276/.412/.999

 

Those are not Kingman or Deer numbers. Those are MVP numbers



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:14 PM

.276/.412/.999
 
Those are not Kingman or Deer numbers. Those are MVP numbers


Dude literally strikes out in more than 1/3 of his at bats. I'll be interested to see what he does from here, but I have doubts as to the sustainability of those numbers requiring contact.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:24 PM

Dude literally strikes out in more than 1/3 of his at bats. I'll be interested to see what he does from here, but I have doubts as to the sustainability of those numbers requiring contact.

True, but most strikeout kings don't have that OBP



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:26 PM

Aren't strikeouts an overrated bad stat? 



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:35 PM

Aren't strikeouts an overrated bad stat? 

Judge contact rate => 61%

 

Considering there are a ton of player's in the 80s and 70s all with similar AB appearances (Harper has a 77%), that's not exactly great for Judge

 

http://www.rotowire....er_ex_stats.htm



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:42 PM

True, but most strikeout kings don't have that OBP

  

Aren't strikeouts an overrated bad stat?


These are both fair enough. But from what I've seen Judge likes to keep the bat on his shoulder a bit too much, and seems to have a bad eye / understanding of the strike zone. I mean, Jose Altuve is hitting .347 with not even half the strikeouts or walks. Granted, situations are different, but the ability to put the bat on the ball reliably seems to something that eludes Judge. Now, he could keep doing this and keep putting these numbers up, but I suspect he'll need to change his approach and improve his eye or else he'll get eaten up going forward.

Full disclosure: I hate the Yankees and never want them to have anything good. Some of this might be wishful thinking. It is a possibility though.

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Posted 20 September 2017 - 10:52 PM

  
These are both fair enough. But from what I've seen Judge likes to keep the bat on his shoulder a bit too much, and seems to have a bad eye / understanding of the strike zone. I mean, Jose Altuve is hitting .347 with not even half the strikeouts or walks. Granted, situations are different, but the ability to put the bat on the ball reliably seems to something that eludes Judge. Now, he could keep doing this and keep putting these numbers up, but I suspect he'll need to change his approach and improve his eye or else he'll get eaten up going forward.

Full disclosure: I hate the Yankees and never want them to have anything good. Some of this might be wishful thinking. It is a possibility though.

I think he has a very good eye of the strike zone. I think he has a very bad ability to put bat on ball in the strike zone 



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Posted 20 September 2017 - 11:08 PM

I think he has a very good eye of the strike zone. I think he has a very bad ability to put bat on ball in the strike zone


His swinging strike percentage is 13.4%. For a guy with that many strikeouts, he doesn't swing the bat enough.

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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:18 AM

Do they routinely breakdown these strikeout rates for when there are runners on base?  That's the most obvious scenario where a strikeout is far less productive than putting the ball in play and getting out.



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:20 AM

His swinging strike percentage is 13.4%. For a guy with that many strikeouts, he doesn't swing the bat enough.

Where is that stat?



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:44 AM

Where is that stat?

 

http://www.fangraphs...640&position=OF

 

Under plate discipline. 



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:49 AM

http://www.fangraphs...640&position=OF

 

Under plate discipline. 

So Judge's swinging strike% is 13.9%

 

Harper's is 11.9%, with a similar OBP as Judge (.412 to .415)

 

This tells me that Judge just swings and misses a lot. I watch the Yankees a ton, he just swings and misses



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:58 AM

So Judge's swinging strike% is 13.9%

 

Harper's is 11.9%, with a similar OBP as Judge (.412 to .415)

 

This tells me that Judge just swings and misses a lot. I watch the Yankees a ton, he just swings and misses

It could very well be the small sample size I've actually seen plus me interpreting the numbers backwards. 



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:42 PM

2017 there are an average of 8.25 SO / game. In 1939, Williams' rookie season, there was an average of 3.44

 

I'd like to see ol' Teddy hit 100mph followed by a 88mph slider. 

 

Well then, how about we compare them based on their strikeout ranks in their own season?  Ted Williams, 8th.  Al Rosen, 19th.  Aaron Judge, 1st. :P



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Posted 21 September 2017 - 04:57 PM

Well then, how about we compare them based on their strikeout ranks in their own season? Ted Williams, 8th. Al Rosen, 19th. Aaron Judge, 1st. :P


Next let's compare them based on the amount of black and Hispanic players they faced. :P

Edited by ubkev, 21 September 2017 - 04:57 PM.


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Posted 21 September 2017 - 09:04 PM

Next let's compare them based on the amount of black and Hispanic players they faced. :P

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