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#1 WildCard

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:01 PM

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Hearing that preliminary discussions have begun between the Sabres and Jack Eichel's camp on an extension. He's one year out of his ELS deal


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:05 PM

Better lock him down for 8.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:05 PM

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:10 PM

We should have a bet on this, like when you bet on the weight of a child being born.

 

7 years, 11 per.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:11 PM

What's the max deal now?

 

Give it to him.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:17 PM

What's the max deal now?

 

Give it to him.

 

Max is like, 20% of the cap on one player, which would put it around 15 mil? McDavid is talking around 13 at the moment, but he has a Hart.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:21 PM

Get him at that 8x8 r8, m8. Even if you have to stay up l8. Then sit back and watch him sk8. 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:29 PM

8years 8million sounds good but Jack may ask for more. I think he will but would love to see a deal less then 10mil. Jack hopefully understands that his contract has major implications on how good the rest of the team can be. Crosby for example did well by not screwing the Pens. 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:33 PM

8years 8million sounds good but Jack may ask for more. I think he will but would love to see a deal less then 10mil. Jack hopefully understands that his contract has major implications on how good the rest of the team can be. Crosby for example did well by not screwing the Pens. 

Did he, or did the cap just go up to accommodate his contract? 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:43 PM

Did he, or did the cap just go up to accommodate his contract? 

hmm maybe a little of both but cap going up def helped. I just don't believe that will keep happening. They fake raise the cap and that is why escrow payments are so annoying to the players. At least that is the way I understand it. 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:46 PM

8 years at 9 million per. No way should he get 10 unless they are really looking at futures and he takes another step closer to McDavid. Sticking with 8 @ 9 per though



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:51 PM

8 x 8 sounds good to me



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 12:56 PM

I think 8x8 would be fair, 8x9 is fair.  Anything more than 9 means a cap hit that's top-seven in the league.  Even 10 is almost within bounds, but is reallly ballsy for a kid- and at that point they're riding everything -the whole economics of the team- on his potential.  If Eichel doesn't work out to the highest order at 8x10, you just spent 27% of the value of the franchise, a crippling cap hit for the next forever years, a tank campaign, and all of the fan base's hope on nothing.

 

Kopitar makes 10.  Ekblad makes 7.5.  

 

McDavid may get 13.75, but McDavid has hardware and hates Edmonton.


Edited by IKnowPhysics, 28 June 2017 - 01:01 PM.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:25 PM

4 year bridge at $5.5m per. 

 

Keeps him motivated.   He's a minus player with injury concerns.   Let him continue to grow, learn the game and piss him off so he jumps ship first chance he gets.  



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 01:30 PM

Get him at that 8x8 r8, m8. Even if you have to stay up l8. Then sit back and watch him sk8. 

 

Nicely done.

 

It's gotta be 8 years. Gotta be.

 

I'm having a PTSD flinch at the symmetry of 8x8 ~ the 5x5 that was allegedly offered around Black Sunday.


4 year bridge at $5.5m per. 

 

Keeps him motivated.   He's a minus player with injury concerns.   Let him continue to grow, learn the game and piss him off so he jumps ship first chance he gets.  

 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:00 PM

4 year bridge at $5.5m per.

Keeps him motivated. He's a minus player with injury concerns. Let him continue to grow, learn the game and piss him off so he jumps ship first chance he gets.


Exactly!

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:22 PM

4 year bridge at $5.5m per. 

 

Keeps him motivated.   He's a minus player with injury concerns.   Let him continue to grow, learn the game and piss him off so he jumps ship first chance he gets.  

 

You want to give $5.5 million to a minus player? Where's that pic of the square jawed Schwarzenegger look alike that Doohickie usually posts? I am disappoint.

 

Edit: Found it.

 

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Edited by Drunkard, 28 June 2017 - 02:24 PM.


#18 ShadowLiger

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:27 PM

he's being factitious  



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:28 PM

8×8 sounds good to me

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:29 PM

I don't see him signing a long term deal for under 10. He knows what he's worth to this team.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:35 PM

he's being factitious  

 

So am I. Given his love affair with +/- though I was expecting him to offer something along the lines of a 1 year qualifying offer and a comment about minus players not being entitled to multi-year deals.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:36 PM

he's being factitious  

facetious



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:37 PM

he's being factitious

Hahaha

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:41 PM

Players' contracts should actually be proportional to their +/-. Say the best + player in the league falls in at +40. He should get the $10 mil deal, so 1 plus should be worth about $250,000. 

Therefore Jack actually owes the Sabres $3.25 mil next season. 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:42 PM

facetious

 

facetious

Factitious: bogus, fake, false

 

Facetious: flippant, glib, ironic

 

Both words are appropriate. 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:43 PM

Factitious: bogus, fake, false

 

Facetious: flippant, glib, ironic

 

Both words are appropriate. 

Eh I really don't care enough to argue about it

 

Players' contracts should actually be proportional to their +/-. Say the best + player in the league falls in at +40. He should get the $10 mil deal, so 1 plus should be worth about $250,000. 

Therefore Jack actually owes the Sabres $3.25 mil next season. 

I can go with this



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:44 PM

4 year bridge at $5.5m per. 

 

Keeps him motivated.   He's a minus player with injury concerns.   Let him continue to grow, learn the game and piss him off so he jumps ship first chance he gets.  

Perhaps I can find new ways to motivate him.

 

1 year, $1.5M. You know... a prove-it deal.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:48 PM

Better lock him down for 8.

8 Years $60 mill AAV $7.5 mill



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:50 PM

8 Years $60 mill AAV $7.5 mill

I wish. No way are we getting away paying him $7.5 during his prime



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:53 PM

Watch him balk until he gets a sense of where JBot is taking the team.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:54 PM

Watch him balk until he gets a sense of where JBot is taking the team.

Would it be unreasonable if he did?



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 02:58 PM

He won't sign for 8 mil, unfortunately. My BEST hope is 8 years, $9 Million AAV, $72 mil.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:00 PM

Did he, or did the cap just go up to accommodate his contract? 

 

I'd say yes to a degree, the fact his contract is also his number tells me at very least something was done to help the team going forward. 

 

Out of his ELC he signed a 5 year 8.7 mil contract.  

 

Then he signed a 12 year 8.7 mil contract. This one definitely seems that at least to some degree he didn't want to hand cuff his team. 



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:06 PM

So everyone is comfortable with the idea that (minus McDavid) Jack is the best player to come along this decade?

And that he will be among the league's five best players over the duration of his contract?

 

That's what you're paying him as.

$8-$10 million a year over four RFA years?

To gain three UFA years at what may not be a discount if he peaks as a Stamkos level player?


Edited by dudacek, 28 June 2017 - 03:07 PM.


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:13 PM

So everyone is comfortable with the idea that (minus McDavid) Jack is the best player to come along this decade?
And that he will be among the league's five best players over the duration of his contract?

That's what you're paying him as.
$8-$10 million a year over four RFA years?
To gain three UFA years at what may not be a discount if he peaks as a Stamkos level player?

I'm definitely comfortable with that idea. I'm expecting 80-90 points next season.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:20 PM

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My sense is Draisaitl ask on an 8 year deal could push 9m per season. Oilers I'd guess would think 7-8 range based on comps


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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:32 PM

$8-$10 million a year over four RFA years?

10 million? We could almost buy our own ship for that!

 

@TSNRyanRishaug
My sense is Draisaitl ask on an 8 year deal could push 9m per season. Oilers I'd guess would think 7-8 range based on comps

Fast forward. You're the Oilers. You've got McDavid for $12M/year. Crazy question:

Do you even consider taking the 4 1st rounders if someone makes the full offer for Draisaitl? Or do you just sign him and go the Pittsburgh route and try to fill out the rest of the roster with folks willing to play cheap to play with McDavid and Draisaitl?



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:38 PM

Sounds like mcjesus is going to get 8 years 13+ per. I'm now thinking it'll be atleast 9, maybe 10 per for jack. I just hope this is an 8 year deal.

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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:39 PM

Sounds like mcjesus is going to get 8 years 13+ per. I'm now thinking it'll be atleast 9, maybe 10 per for jack. I just hope this is an 8 year deal.

but McDavid just outscored him by a lot, and won the MVP in his first season. Jack is not in that stratusphere as much as we like him.



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Posted 28 June 2017 - 03:48 PM

but McDavid just outscored him by a lot, and won the MVP in his first season. Jack is not in that stratusphere as much as we like him.


He's not McDavid. But if McDavid is $13+ you don't think Jack is worth $9, $9.5?