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#41 iTInSn

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:10 PM

It wouldn't be a good thing for us if LV were to ###### up Linus. I'm glad for the one way deal because I feel that makes things too rich for LV with the question of waver. First year in Rochester I was a critic. Obviously his limitations associated with his surgery were what I was seeing. This year the kid did every single thing you'd want a goalie to do. He did it all very well. It is what it is though.
.....OK Mr. Filter. I'll play your game.
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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:11 PM

considering that penis and ###### are the anatomical names of body parts the fact they are filtered out is some 3rd grade bs. 

 

 

Oh even better, v a g i na is filtered out but not penis... seems like some sexist bs there. 


Edited by ShadowLiger, 14 June 2017 - 08:13 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:13 PM

I always preferred Lock, Stock, and Two Smoking Barrels.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:23 PM

considering that penis and ###### are the anatomical names of body parts the fact they are filtered out is some 3rd grade bs.


Oh even better, v a g i na is filtered out but not penis... seems like some sexist bs there.

The fact that s.n.a.t.c.h. is filtered is really silly. Its sort of like when I have a first year class and they're giggling over the fact that I'm talking about erecting.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:25 PM

The fact that s.n.a.t.c.h. is filtered is really silly. Its sort of like when I have a first year class and they're giggling over the fact that I'm talking about erecting.

omg the word was sn atch... freaking come on what are we 7? 


Edited by ShadowLiger, 14 June 2017 - 08:25 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:35 PM

The fact that s.n.a.t.c.h. is filtered is really silly. Its sort of like when I have a first year class and they're giggling over the fact that I'm talking about erecting.

And so is the 2nd half of the 1st word in the phrase "dingdong the witch is dead" on naughty word filter.

Is what it is.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:41 PM

And so is the 2nd half of the 1st word in the phrase "dingdong the witch is dead" on naughty word filter.
Is what it is.


"######, where is my automobile?"

Edit - you're right!

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:51 PM

The chances are slim... this is based on years of research and hockey knowledge.

I realize that it's your read. What's wrong with saying "I think" instead of declaring clairvoyance?

I'm not tryna change you or anything. I don't know if I wanna live in a world where pi isn't 100% certain of his corectness.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:54 PM

I realize that it's your read. What's wrong with saying "I think" instead of declaring clairvoyance?

I'm not tryna change you or anything. I don't know if I wanna live in a world where pi isn't 100% certain of his corectness.


Good points all around. At times I shake my head a bit but then I come to the same realization. I dont know if I want to live in a Sabrespace world without these....different points of view.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:29 PM

I realize that it's your read. What's wrong with saying "I think" instead of declaring clairvoyance?

I'm not tryna change you or anything. I don't know if I wanna live in a world where pi isn't 100% certain of his corectness.


Let me put it this way.... he was a mid round pick, below average size for an NHL goaltender, very mediocre stats in the USHL, no world juniors appearances, stats are decent for a mid-upper tier college goalie. What makes you believe he'll be an exception and become a regular starter in the NHL when all the evidence suggests otherwise?

kinda like Auston Matthews went to Europe for money and will suck in the NHL?

Anyways, I think Pi using Miller as a comparable is good. Very interesting analysis.


Never said Matthews would suck in the NHL, but go ahead and keep putting words in my mouth.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:52 AM

Let me put it this way.... he was a mid round pick, below average size for an NHL goaltender, very mediocre stats in the USHL, no world juniors appearances, stats are decent for a mid-upper tier college goalie. What makes you believe he'll be an exception and become a regular starter in the NHL when all the evidence suggests otherwise?

Never said Matthews would suck in the NHL, but go ahead and keep putting words in my mouth.

Okay what you said exactly to a T was... 

 

Again....  I expected Matthews to impress out of the gate.    When his ELC expires, and he signs his max deal, he'll experience a sharp steady decline into oblivion.... I said this back in June:   

 

http://forums.sabres...ndpost&p=837412

 

"WRT Matthews we'll see how it plays out.    For the record, I predicted he would peak as a top 10 scorer in the league, he'll sign a franchise deal, and then the downward spiral will begin."


But I agree with your point about our GT. He has worse numbers than Ryan Miller but we are expecting him to be better than Miller which seems odd. 


Edited by ShadowLiger, 15 June 2017 - 07:51 AM.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:02 PM

strange if they sign him hen leave him unprotected...great for Vegas I have to think there is more to this. Maybe Vegas agrees to take some salary (like Moulson and/or Bogo) if we sign and leave Ullmark unprotected  


Edited by Sabre fan, 15 June 2017 - 12:03 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 12:53 PM

I just looked at capfriendly's waivers tool and Ullmark is exempt from waivers next season. The rule is 4 years or 60 games and he has only been a pro 3 years and played 21 nhl games.

Ullmark's new contract is only somewhat of a disincentive to taking him, because LV would have to pay himall 750K in the AHL. The biggest disincentive is that he isn't close to being one of the top 4 goalies available. Fleury, Grubauer, Pickard and Raanta are easily ahead of Ullmark. I might also go after Dansk to be my AHL goalie.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 01:02 PM

I just looked at capfriendly's waivers tool and Ullmark is exempt from waivers next season. The rule is 4 years or 60 games and he has only been a pro 3 years and played 21 nhl games.
Ullmark's new contract is only somewhat of a disincentive to taking him, because LV would have to pay himall 750K in the AHL. The biggest disincentive is that he isn't close to being one of the top 4 goalies available. Fleury, Grubauer, Pickard and Raanta are easily ahead of Ullmark. I might also go after Dansk to be my AHL goalie.


This is correct. It always slips my mind that a "one-way" or "two-way" contract has nothing to do with waiver eligibility. Refers to salary whether in AHL or NHL.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 01:42 PM

With Ulmark signed cheap for the next two years I propose JBott does the following with the Sabres goalie situation.

 

Expose Lehner in the expansion draft and protect Ullmark.

 

Have Vegas take Lehner to be their young proven goalie. As part of this arrangement of exposing Lehner to Vegas, Vegas would also take Fluery from Pittsburgh.  

 

Vegas then trades us Fluery for a second rd pick this year and next year and Matt Moulson or Tyler Ennis.

 

Sabres then could talk with Peterson about competing with Ullmark for the back up role to Fluery for the next two years with one of them eventually taking over the starting role. 

 

Sabres- Fluery- starter, Ullmark- back up

Rochester- Peterson- starter, Johansson- back up

Cincinnati- Kasdorf- starter



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 01:47 PM

I am in favor of moving on from Lehner.  Not sure Fluery is the final answer.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 01:47 PM

In before second attempt at merge.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 04:10 PM

I like Lehner, but if they let him go to Vegas, then so be it, not the end of the world... as long as there's a plan in place which doesn't include Cal Petersen in a Sabres sweater.



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 04:13 PM

I like Lehner, but if they let him go to Vegas, then so be it, not the end of the world... as long as there's a plan in place which doesn't include Cal Petersen in a Sabres sweater.


See Peterson thread..

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 04:24 PM

See Peterson thread..

 

Yeah, I think you're talking about the tweet that JBOT reached out to him.    

 

I think Petersen could be a good AHL goalie, but I just don't see anything about his game that would foresee him as an NHL starter.



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

Wait b4 you disappear, Victor Olofsson, he played for MODO, I think he might come over next year. Do you think he was good or did you ever notice him on the ice?

 

I made a post last year about Victor, you should watch that clip. 

 

If he does, i believe he has same skills as Reinhart.

 

Edit: Thing is, Victor is a sniper and has more speed than Reinhart but their playstyle is similar.


Edited by MODO Hockey, 15 June 2017 - 05:12 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 05:32 PM

With Ulmark signed cheap for the next two years I propose JBott does the following with the Sabres goalie situation.
 
Expose Lehner in the expansion draft and protect Ullmark.
 
Have Vegas take Lehner to be their young proven goalie. As part of this arrangement of exposing Lehner to Vegas, Vegas would also take Fluery from Pittsburgh.  
 
Vegas then trades us Fluery for a second rd pick this year and next year and Matt Moulson or Tyler Ennis.
 
Sabres then could talk with Peterson about competing with Ullmark for the back up role to Fluery for the next two years with one of them eventually taking over the starting role. 
 
Sabres- Fluery- starter, Ullmark- back up
Rochester- Peterson- starter, Johansson- back up
Cincinnati- Kasdorf- starter


Can't see a way having Fleury makes sense for the Sabres.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:30 PM

Hope, 

 

Please prove your disbelievers wrong Linus!  :w00t:  :beer:



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Posted 15 June 2017 - 07:57 PM

I love Ullmark, hope he makes it.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:16 PM

I love Ullmark, hope he makes it.


I love MODO, I hope Ullmark makes it.

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 08:21 PM

And Olofsson!

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Posted 15 June 2017 - 10:00 PM

I don't think it's a brilliant, mind-blowing move, but Botterill signing Ullmark now to a one-way deal is a thoughtful, no-risk disincentive to Vegas and a statement to Petersen and to Ullmark about where they fit into the team's plans.

Well-considered, and a good, easy-to-overlook early sign of the type of GM we hired.

Edited by dudacek, 15 June 2017 - 10:03 PM.


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Posted 15 June 2017 - 11:09 PM

I don't think it's a brilliant, mind-blowing move, but Botterill signing Ullmark now to a one-way deal is a thoughtful, no-risk disincentive to Vegas and a statement to Petersen and to Ullmark about where they fit into the team's plans.

Well-considered, and a good, easy-to-overlook early sign of the type of GM we hired.

 

Interesting.  In what respect do you see it as a statement to Peterson?



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 12:22 AM

The Sabres have promoted the number one goalie in Rochester so the path is clear for Petersen to take that job.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 07:29 AM

I made a post last year about Victor, you should watch that clip.

If he does, i believe he has same skills as Reinhart.

Edit: Thing is, Victor is a sniper and has more speed than Reinhart but their playstyle is similar.

Thank you! I really want Olofsson to come over. He just looks good.

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:43 PM

Thank you! I really want Olofsson to come over. He just looks good.

 

 

This is from season 2014/2015, this little wizzard has the most insane wristshot i tell you.

 

If you have not seen it already, enjoy.

 



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:49 PM

I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do. 



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:50 PM

I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do. 

 

Maybe in the future, he probably needs a year in AHL first.



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 05:54 PM

Maybe in the future, he probably needs a year in AHL first.

For sure. I wish he was coming Stateside this year but we can wait for him. I am curious to see how he handles the NA game. He could make the jump straight to the NHL. He will have roughly 4 years of pro hockey experience. 



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Posted 16 June 2017 - 08:39 PM

I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do.


Your swede obsession has officially gone too far

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Posted 16 June 2017 - 11:38 PM

I think Olofsson could be Jack's winger... I really do. 

 

Unfortunately Olofsson is too small, at only 5'10 and 165lbs, he's not the type of forward GMTM is... wait.  Nevermind.



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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:42 AM

Unfortunately Olofsson is too small, at only 5'10 and 165lbs, he's not the type of forward GMTM is... wait.  Nevermind.

Hey, he's 5'11"!  lol

 

 

 

Also we have to keep Ullmark... https://www.instagra...p/BVcZZZTne4W/ 



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Posted 17 June 2017 - 09:45 AM

Hey, he's 5'11"!  lol
 
 
 
Also we have to keep Ullmark... https://www.instagra...p/BVcZZZTne4W/ 

#GiontaMath ;)

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 12:12 PM

This is a pretty strong move by the young fella and his bride.

 

 

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Posted 17 June 2017 - 12:13 PM

That suit is incredible