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#1 BRAWNDO

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 03:50 PM

Per Team Press Release
Two years 750k AAV

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 03:50 PM

@SabresBuzz  42s42 seconds ago
 The Sabres have signed Linus Ullmark to a two year extension
 
@SabresBuzz  37s38 seconds ago
 The Sabres say that Ullmark's extension is $750K AAV


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 03:52 PM

Cool.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 03:55 PM

Good news.
Anyone see a tie-in to expansion?
Does this mean Lehner is on his way out?

#desperateforjbottodosomething

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:05 PM

Good news.
Anyone see a tie-in to expansion?
Does this mean Lehner is on his way out?

#desperateforjbottodosomething


Or it means Ullmark is...

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:06 PM

Good news.
Anyone see a tie-in to expansion?
Does this mean Lehner is on his way out?

#desperateforjbottodosomething

Definitely a tie-in to expansion, but not that Lehner is out. More of a "here's the price tag" announcement to LV and McPhee. It's either going to warn LV off, or serve as an enticement.

 

Does anyone who knows more about AHL contract requirements know how much that might be if he's in AHL full-time?



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:08 PM

or it means that a deal is in place for both to stay in Buffalo and for LV to take someone else in expansion.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:12 PM

Lehner to Calgary for a something exempt and the rights to Chad Johnson, flip the prospects and picks for a defenceman.
We protect Ullmark, expose Johnson and Bogo (who won't get picked) to comply with the rules and sign the best free agent goalie available. Played for Vancouver, Ryan something or other.

Edited by dudacek, 13 June 2017 - 04:56 PM.


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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:34 PM

Interesting.

 

Let's say Lehner's agent told JBott that Lehner wants $5MM x 5 years, and JBott thinks he can probably get a deal done for $4.5MM x 4 years, but not much less.

 

Would JBott rather pay that price for Lehner, or expose him in the expansion draft?



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 04:38 PM

I like Ullmark and think he's got a shot to be a good NHL starter, and I hope we hang onto him. 

Plus, whatever makes MODO happy makes me happy.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:14 PM

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:17 PM

MODO, I love you as much as one straight dude can love another (I assume) straight dude he's never met.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:40 PM

Lehner to Calgary for a something exempt and the rights to Chad Johnson, flip the prospects and picks for a defenceman.
We protect Ullmark, expose Johnson and Bogo (who won't get picked) to comply with the rules and sign the best free agent goalie available. Played for Vancouver, Ryan something or other.


Are you proposing Miller time? I like Lehner, but I love Miller. I'd freak out if we brought him back.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:46 PM

Are you proposing Miller time? I like Lehner, but I love Miller. I'd freak out if we brought him back.

 

If we trade Lehner and are looking for a short-term back-up while Ullmark and Peterson (hopefully) mature, he is the best candidate.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:47 PM

Or it means Ullmark is...

?
No it doesn't.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 05:52 PM

?
No it doesn't.


What if Vegas wanted him under contract before they take him?

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:10 PM

Per Team Press ReleaseTwo years 750k AAV


1 way or 2 way deal?

If it's 1 way, he'll be exposed & there is no way Vegas is taking him. Sabres would've just gone to 7-3-2 rather than 7-3-1 like everyone else. :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:21 PM

To me this is a sign that Lehner will be exposed.

In 20 games in 15-16 Ullmarks GAA was actually less than Lehners last year and his save % was a fraction more. Both are 6'4" and Ullmark is a steal at his AAV.

Especially with Cal Peterson a year or two away, this gives them more room to make Peterson an offer.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:24 PM

To me this is a sign that Lehner will be exposed.

In 20 games in 15-16 Ullmarks GAA was actually less than Lehners last year and his save % was a fraction more. Both are 6'4" and Ullmark is a steal at his AAV.

Especially with Cal Peterson a year or two away, in another teams farm system, this gives them more room to make Peterson an offer.

 

Yeah.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 06:27 PM

Yeah.


Yup.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:00 PM

1 way or 2 way deal?
If it's 1 way, he'll be exposed & there is no way Vegas is taking him. Sabres would've just gone to 7-3-2 rather than 7-3-1 like everyone else. :thumbsup:


One way

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 08:07 PM

One way


The Stanley Way. Linus has it.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 09:44 PM

One way


Guess we know who the backup is this season.

Hopefully when MODO comes back in March, Linus gets the game.

Also, hopefully we get some Vince Guaraldi when he's introduced as the starter.

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Posted 13 June 2017 - 10:47 PM

or it means that a deal is in place for both to stay in Buffalo and for LV to take someone else in expansion.

 

Yeah i'd imagine this is the case.

 

Also, what is the harm in exposing Lehner? If LV has a deal for MA Fluery, they wouldn't take Lehner and pay goalies around $10 million for next season.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:16 PM

Yeah i'd imagine this is the case.

 

Also, what is the harm in exposing Lehner? If LV has a deal for MA Fluery, they wouldn't take Lehner and pay goalies around $10 million for next season.

 

LV could flip him, I suppose, but you make a good point.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:25 PM

To me this is a sign that Lehner will be exposed.

In 20 games in 15-16 Ullmarks GAA was actually less than Lehners last year and his save % was a fraction more. Both are 6'4" and Ullmark is a steal at his AAV.

Especially with Cal Peterson a year or two away, this gives them more room to make Peterson an offer.

 

I like this thinking.  A little risky but I think we've seen Lehner's ceiling and don't think he's consistently good enough to get us a cup.  I'm good with Ullmark/Peterson in net.



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Posted 13 June 2017 - 11:48 PM

I like this thinking. A little risky but I think we've seen Lehner's ceiling and don't think he's consistently good enough to get us a cup. I'm good with Ullmark/Peterson in net.


Petersen? He's not that good, will be a fringe NHL player.

People need to get it out of their heads that he has a future as a starter in the NHL.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:26 AM

Petersen? He's not that good, will be a fringe NHL player.

People need to get it out of their heads that he has a future as a starter in the NHL.

I really do enjoy reading your posts man. But after Matthews and Matty mo the past two years your player projections hold very little weight at this time.

Edited by Derrico, 14 June 2017 - 06:27 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:40 AM

Also, hopefully we get some Vince Guaraldi when he's introduced as the starter.

 

Who's his Lucy? I nominate Ennis. 


Edited by Sakman, 14 June 2017 - 07:52 AM.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 08:31 AM

To me this is a sign that Lehner will be exposed.

In 20 games in 15-16 Ullmarks GAA was actually less than Lehners last year and his save % was a fraction more. Both are 6'4" and Ullmark is a steal at his AAV.

Especially with Cal Peterson a year or two away, this gives them more room to make Peterson an offer.

 

Signing a guy to a $750k contract is hardly the evidence you should be looking for if you think a team is about to walk away from their starter.  This isn't even backup money, it's very young guy in development money.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 10:56 AM

I really do enjoy reading your posts man. But after Matthews and Matty mo the past two years your player projections hold very little weight at this time.

I believe, unlike the Matthews thing, which is probably done more for fun, pi actually has some numbers to support his stance for Cal. 



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:23 AM

I really do enjoy reading your posts man. But after Matthews and Matty mo the past two years your player projections hold very little weight at this time.

 

I predicted immediate success for Matthews, still believe his production will decline significantly after he signs his mega-deal.  


I believe, unlike the Matthews thing, which is probably done more for fun, pi actually has some numbers to support his stance for Cal. 

 

Folks were comparing Petersen to Miller in another thread.

 

Miller put up some excellent numbers his final two seasons at MSU:
GAA: 1.23 / 1.77
SV%: 0.950 / 0.936

Let's compare that Petersen:
GAA: 2.20 / 2.21
SV%: 0.927 / 0.926

You want to compare someone to Miller?   Try Connor Hellebuyck.  

His final two years at UMass-Lowell:
GAA: 1.37 / 1.79
SV%: 0.952 / 0.941

Petersen just isn't at that same level IMO.... a comparable would be Matt Hackett who put up almost identical numbers in his final year in juniors.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 11:56 AM

Are you proposing Miller time? I like Lehner, but I love Miller. I'd freak out if we brought him back.

Why in the world would we want Miller back? He is on a down ward slide age/career wise.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 12:05 PM

I predicted immediate success for Matthews, still believe his production will decline significantly after he signs his mega-deal.  


 

Folks were comparing Petersen to Miller in another thread.

 

Miller put up some excellent numbers his final two seasons at MSU:
GAA: 1.23 / 1.77
SV%: 0.950 / 0.936

Let's compare that Petersen:
GAA: 2.20 / 2.21
SV%: 0.927 / 0.926

You want to compare someone to Miller?   Try Connor Hellebuyck.  

His final two years at UMass-Lowell:
GAA: 1.37 / 1.79
SV%: 0.952 / 0.941

Petersen just isn't at that same level IMO.... a comparable would be Matt Hackett who put up almost identical numbers in his final year in juniors.

 

The numbers aren't the least bit comparable, but a college goalie I see Petersen having a similar ceiling to is Scott Darling.  It's tough to read too much into his college numbers though because those were some truly awful Maine teams.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:02 PM

Why in the world would we want Miller back? He is on a down ward slide age/career wise.

That sort of move would mean Russ Brandon had more control of the Sabres than we would think possible.  LOL   It would probably be a good short term buzz/pop for ticket sales, but a poor long term decision.  

I think keeping Linus is a smart move.  Team needs a good solid backup.

Not sure it has much connection, one way or another, to Lehner's status.  


Edited by Jsixspd, 14 June 2017 - 04:03 PM.


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Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:15 PM

Petersen? He's not that good, will be a fringe NHL player.

People need to get it out of their heads that he has a future as a starter in the NHL.

What is the point of claiming definite knowledge like this? You have no idea if Petersen is going to be a starter.

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 04:48 PM

MODO, I love you as much as one straight dude can love another (I assume) straight dude he's never met.


Much love buddy =)

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Posted 14 June 2017 - 05:11 PM

Much love buddy =)

Wait b4 you disappear, Victor Olofsson, he played for MODO, I think he might come over next year. Do you think he was good or did you ever notice him on the ice?



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 06:54 PM

What is the point of claiming definite knowledge like this? You have no idea if Petersen is going to be a starter.

 

The chances are slim... this is based on years of research and hockey knowledge.



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Posted 14 June 2017 - 07:04 PM

The chances are slim... this is based on years of research and hockey knowledge.

kinda like Auston Matthews went to Europe for money and will suck in the NHL? 


Anyways, I think Pi using Miller as a comparable is good. Very interesting analysis.