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#41 carpandean

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:45 AM

Sheldon Keefe, from the Toronto Marlies, was a name just thrown out on WGR.  Daron Drager said he was an up-and-coming future NHL coach even before Babcock came in and now has coached a season coordinating with him.  Interesting idea ...


Edited by carpandean, 20 April 2017 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:45 AM

Who is the worst person we could get? Seriously, let's set the bottom so we know.

Besides the one we just fired? Therrein

Edited by WildCard, 20 April 2017 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:47 AM

Sheldon Keefe, from the Toronto Marlies, was a name just thrown out on WGR. Daron Drager said he was an up-and-coming future NHL coach even before Babcock came in and now has coached a season coordinating with him. Interesting idea ...


I like that. The Marlies always seem to be good.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:48 AM

Sheldon Keefe, from the Toronto Marlies, was a name just thrown out on WGR. Daron Drager said he was an up-and-coming future NHL coach even before Babcock came in and now has coached a season coordinating with him. Interesting idea ...


Stealing from the leaves would be good but a coach that had half a dozen NHL players on his AHL roster might not be the best choice. Or maybe he'd be perfect as I think the Sabres have similar numbers.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:49 AM

We need someone who will coach Jack Eichel type hockey. Someone who will coach the system TM said he wanted; a fast possession/unit transition type game. I also don't really want a first time HC, because other then DD, they never win Cups in their first gig.

That eliminates Sutter(D grinding hockey) and Capuano (dump and chase), and probably Housley (no NHL HC experience). Kevin Dineen seems like a logical choice. Has some HC experience and currently works for Chicago who plays the style we are looking for.

Obviously the new GM needs to hired first. I'm hiring Fenton asap. I know he comes from a D first organization, but the Preds have improved their scoring in recent years and have done well using their D depth to enhance their offense. Poile has taught him how to build an organization, successfully manage a small market team, make smart hockey trades and win.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:53 AM

Coaches Flagg is okay with

Sheldon Keefe

Kevin Dineen

Phil Housley 

 

 

Darryl Sutter

 

Coaches Flagg is not okay with

David Quinn

Lindy Ruff

Ron Wilson

Michel Therrien

Jack Capuano

Dallas Eakins


Edited by Randall Flagg, 20 April 2017 - 11:04 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 10:58 AM

What's Mike Keenan doing?

 

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:00 AM

Coaches Flagg is okay with

Sheldon Keefe

Kevin Dineen

Phil Housley 

 

 

Darryl Sutter

 

Coaches Flagg is not okay with

David Quinn

Lindy Ruff

Ron Wilson

Michel Therrien

Jack Capuano

Uggghhh, I do not want Kevin Dineen


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Dreger - Kirk Muller has done well in Montreal, Dallas Eakins, Todd Nelson, and Craig Berube are others that could be options 


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:03 AM

Worst combo that could happen: Michel Therrien as coach, Lindy Ruff as GM, Russ Brandon as hockey superboss

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:08 AM

Besides the one we just fired? Therrein

But that would mean that when he get's fired in November of 2018, we would then get Jullien.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:09 AM

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:09 AM

But that would mean that when he get's fired in November of 2018, we would then get Jullien.

:lol: :lol:



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:24 AM

Paul McLean - has HC experience, including leading a team to the playoffs twice. Has won a playoff series. Accomplished NHL scorer playing on Hawerchuk's wing.

Last 2 year an asst for the Ducks.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:25 AM

Paul McLean - has HC experience, including leading a team to the playoffs twice. Has won a playoff series. Accomplished NHL scorer playing on Hawerchuk's wing.

Last 2 year an asst for the Ducks.

No for me. Hate his style of play



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:31 AM

Paul Maclean is a guy who I probably wouldn't like but could see getting immediate results in the playoff race, only to eventually disappoint when we find ourselves spinning our wheels in the mud of the first 2 rounds



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:38 AM

My brain just melted, picked up the news at lunch, exciting times in Buffalo.

im going to stay open and just pray this organization does the due diligence to find the right GM and coach. I like Housley but not letting myself get too emotionally tied to him.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:44 AM

Coaches Flagg is okay with

Sheldon Keefe

Kevin Dineen

Phil Housley 

 

 

Darryl Sutter

 

Coaches Flagg is not okay with

David Quinn

Lindy Ruff

Ron Wilson

Michel Therrien

Jack Capuano

Dallas Eakins

 

If you are okay with Sutter, I'd nudge Ruff in my okay list as well.   Actually would rather see Ruff here than Sutter.


Edited by Huckleberry, 20 April 2017 - 11:44 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:46 AM

My list remains: Keefe = Housley > somebody I've never heard of > Sutter > *insert retread here*

Edited by TrueBlueGED, 20 April 2017 - 11:46 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:50 AM

My list remains: Keefe = Housley > somebody I've never heard of > Sutter > *insert retread here*

My buddy goes to Penn State and has tremendous things to say about that coach's system, not just his recruiting (David Quinn). Maybe that can be your somebody you've never heard of. 


I'm still not doom&gloom about the Sutter idea. I'm telling you, he builds tremendous center-based transitions. 



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:53 AM

My buddy goes to Penn State and has tremendous things to say about that coach's system, not just his recruiting (David Quinn). Maybe that can be your somebody you've never heard of.


I'm still not doom&gloom about the Sutter idea. I'm telling you, he builds tremendous center-based transitions.

Like I said, I don't abjectly despise the Sutter idea. I'd just prefer, all else equal, to look like the Pens or Leafs.

Edited by TrueBlueGED, 20 April 2017 - 11:53 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:54 AM

Boston college's coach has been linked here cos of Eichel hasn't he? When suggestions of who to replace Dan.

 

Clearly Eichel didn't like Murray. I wonder if Jack will be sitting in on the interview panel :P



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:57 AM

Like I said, I don't abjectly despise the Sutter idea. I'd just prefer, all else equal, to look like the Pens or Leafs.

Sooooo three practices in ROR comes up and says "look Darryl, whatchoo think about letting us focus on passing and manipulating space in the o-zone rather than cycling, unless it's me okie and Carrier?"

I think that's the key difference between LA and Chicago more than anything else, the decision to actively filter pucks to the point rather than passing up quantity to look for quality scoring chances. Did the Kings do this because they were told by a coach who will never not do this, or did the coach recognize that he had the biggest, baddest, fastest group of wingers in the league with some stud possession centers?


Edited by Randall Flagg, 20 April 2017 - 11:57 AM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 11:58 AM

Here are the recent cup winning coaches
1) Sullivan - mid season replacement promoted from AHL, but 2nd NHL coaching job (2 yrs w Bruins and 1 divisional title)
2) DD - mid season replacment promoted from AHL - 1st NHL HC job
3) Babcock - 2nd NHL HC job, after 2 years with ANA
4) Sutter - 4th NHL job, took teams to playoffs 11/12 years before joining LA
5) Quenneville - 3rd NHL job - went to playoffs 9/11 years before Chi
6) Julien - 3rd NHL job - only 4 years of HC experience when hired and only 1 playoff appearence before joining the Bruins
7) Laviolette - 2nd NHL gig, after 2 years with the NYI, but took NYI to playoffs both years
8) Burns - 4th NHL job, playoff in 9/12 seasons with prior 3 clubs
9) Torts - 2nd job (sort of). Had 4 games as HC w NYR before joining TB
10) Carlyle - Won in 2nd season with 1st HC job with ANA

Of these 10 coaching , all but 2 had NHL HC experience, when hired by the team they won a title with. 3 had over 11 years as a HC before winning their 1st Cup. None had won a Cup before.

I think we are looking for a retread with HC experience and hopefully with some playoff experience, in which the Sabres will be their 2nd or 3rd HC assignment. Dineen, MacLean, and Capuano all somewhat fit the description.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:01 PM

It is so, so important that we don't hire Capuano. 



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:01 PM

Coaches Flagg is okay with

Sheldon Keefe

Kevin Dineen

Phil Housley 

 

 

Darryl Sutter

 

Coaches Flagg is not okay with

David Quinn

Lindy Ruff

Ron Wilson

Michel Therrien

Jack Capuano

Dallas Eakins

 

No on Sutter, he's a relic.  Our team has offensive pieces, to which he restricted in LA.  I'm all about Keefe, Housley and perhaps Travis Green (Utica Head Coach and Vancouvers likely successor).   No on Quinn, Wilson, Capuano and Therrian. 



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:02 PM

Who is the worst person we could get? Seriously, let's set the bottom so we know.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:03 PM

Sooooo three practices in ROR comes up and says "look Darryl, whatchoo think about letting us focus on passing and manipulating space in the o-zone rather than cycling, unless it's me okie and Carrier?"

I think that's the key difference between LA and Chicago more than anything else, the decision to actively filter pucks to the point rather than passing up quantity to look for quality scoring chances. Did the Kings do this because they were told by a coach who will never not do this, or did the coach recognize that he had the biggest, baddest, fastest group of wingers in the league with some stud possession centers?


I dunno the extent, but I do think there's something to the notion that Sutter's system stifles team scoring. Even in their heyday, they had trouble scoring consistently, which is why they could be so good yet still manage to miss the playoffs or be a low seed. As you say though, the why is critical.

I suppose I'm skeptical that a coach who won two Cups doing it one way is going to be especially flexible when presented with a different roster. Put differently, maybe he ran the cycle that way because of the roster, but through winning two Cups, he may now believe that's *the* way to do it.

It is so, so important that we don't hire Capuano.


I'd lose my ######. Completely and totally lose it.

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:03 PM

I dunno the extent, but I do think there's something to the notion that Sutter's system stifles team scoring. Even in their heyday, they had trouble scoring consistently, which is why they could be so good yet still manage to miss the playoffs or be a low seed. As you say though, the why is critical.

I suppose I'm skeptical that a coach who won two Cups doing it one way is going to be especially flexible when presented with a different roster. Put differently, maybe he ran the cycle that way because of the roster, but through winning two Cups, he may now believe that's *the* way to do it.

I'd lose my ######. Completely and totally lose it.

Yup

 

Bottom line is, we're screwed



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:24 PM

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Friedman - I think the #Sabres have taken a long look at BU coach David Quinn. They might make a play for him, other teams are interested


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:27 PM

 

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Friedman - I think the #Sabres have taken a long look at BU coach David Quinn. They might make a play for him, other teams are interested

 

Didn't we just fire the guy who would have been doing the looking? 



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:28 PM

Didn't we just fire the guy who would have been doing the looking? 

Pegula hires the coaches, haven't we learned this yet?



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:29 PM

Pegula hires the coaches, haven't we learned this yet?

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 12:36 PM

Didn't we just fire the guy who would have been doing the looking? 

 

Wouldn't be to bad to have options ready for the new guy we hire.

 

And I give Ruff a 25% shot at coming back, the Pegula's really liked him.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 01:41 PM

Wouldn't be to bad to have options ready for the new guy we hire.

 

And I give Ruff a 25% shot at coming back, the Pegula's really liked him.

Ruff as GM and Quinn as coach?



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:06 PM

Haven't had time to read the thread yet, but my knee jerk reaction is that if you the GM and you think you might have a lockerroom full of ######sticks, Darryl Sutter will square their ###### away hardcore.

 

He's not a smart man.  He's not a well-spoken man.  But he will beat shenanigans and antics into the earth.


Edited by IKnowPhysics, 20 April 2017 - 02:06 PM.


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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:09 PM

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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:13 PM

Honestly I don't want an NCAA coach. 

 

I don't either.

 

Haven't had time to read the thread yet, but my knee jerk reaction is that if you the GM and you think you might have a lockerroom full of ######sticks, Darryl Sutter will square their ###### away hardcore.

 

He's not a smart man.  He's not a well-spoken man.  But he will beat shenanigans and antics into the earth.

 

Interesting.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:15 PM

Haven't had time to read the thread yet, but my knee jerk reaction is that if you the GM and you think you might have a lockerroom full of ######sticks, Darryl Sutter will square their ###### away hardcore.

 

He's not a smart man.  He's not a well-spoken man.  But he will beat shenanigans and antics into the earth.

If I wanted that I'd hire Nolan or someone similar. You know when lockerooms don't suck? When you win, and you don't need Sutter, or anyone else, to fix it then. Hire a coach that plays a good system, your young guys, and to your strengths.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 02:22 PM

Ruff as GM and Quinn as coach?

 

Or Ruff in some sort of VP role, and get someone like Fenton or Boterril.



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Posted 20 April 2017 - 03:04 PM

Sutter coaches a style that is rapidly moving towards being obsolete and did not want to play prospects, something that the Sabres have an abundance of