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#1 BRAWNDO

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:36 AM

8. That team’s blue line could really be poached. Another defender, 24-year-old Viktor Antipin (also a lefty), is expected to join Buffalo. The Sabres won a bit of a recruiting battle, with Calgary, Chicago, Columbus and Pittsburgh all poking around.

Per Friedman's 30 Thoughts

Edited by BRAWNDO, 25 May 2017 - 03:33 PM.


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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:41 AM

Wonder when we'll see him first



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:47 AM

Did we win the battle because he grew up loving Mogilny, or did we win the battle because all of those playoff teams decided he wasn't worth their time?



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:50 AM

Well, credit to GM TM for staying active.

 

What's this guy apt to be about?

 

Third pairing?



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:51 AM

He's listed at 5'11" 174 lbs. Dude better be able to skate.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:51 AM

8. That team’s blue line could really be poached. Another defender, 24-year-old Viktor Antipin (also a lefty), is expected to join Buffalo. The Sabres won a bit of a recruiting battle, with Calgary, Chicago, Columbus and Pittsburgh all poking around.
Per Friedman's 30 Thoughts


Anyone know anything about him other than he'll turn 25 around Christmas?

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:54 AM

Anyone know anything about him other than he'll turn 25 around Christmas?


I assume he's a great bowler.

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I really should get back to work.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:56 AM

But GMTM doesn't like Russian players.  So I'm assuming he's a slow skater.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:56 AM

From the brief things I've seen on him on twitter

 

He's fast, small, and offensively minded. Liability defensively

 

That was from 2013 though



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 10:58 AM

Here are his Stats

http://www.hockeydb....hp?pid[]=132181

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

It looks like, at best, a 2nd pairing guy. More likely? A 3rd pairing guy for next season. Still, gotta like taking a chance



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:00 AM

Anyone know anything about him other than he'll turn 25 around Christmas?

 

I heard he's a soft Euro that doesn't know how to grind those ###### down. DB does not approve. He'll be below Gorges on the depth chart (E5).



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:06 AM

Son of a former KHLer. Played on Russia WC jr team in 2012 and their last 2 WC teams.

Hard to tell by looking at just stats, but it he looks like a puck mover with some O. However he might also be pretty solid in his own end based on +/- number. That said Magnitogorosk Metallurg has been the KHL's best team for the last 4 years. Mike Keenan was his coach in the KHL for two of those years.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:14 AM

I heard he's a soft Euro that doesn't know how to grind those ###### down. DB does not approve. He'll be below Gorges on the depth chart (E5).

As an aside, I know your (E5) remark is in reference to Eklund when his "rumors" used to get posted on here a lot, but I haven't heard anything from him in what seems like years. Is he still spouting his nonsense out there and we are smart enough to ignore him or did Hockeybuzz finally full the plug?



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:17 AM

As an aside, I know your (E5) remark is in reference to Eklund when his "rumors" used to get posted on here a lot, but I haven't heard anything from him in what seems like years. Is he still spouting his nonsense out there and we are smart enough to ignore him or did Hockeybuzz finally full the plug?

He is still spouting crap:  http://www.hockeybuzz.com/ we are just ignoring him...



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:19 AM

From Aivis Kalnins who reports on the KHL

Antipin is more mature guy while Berezgalov has some speed in his game, I believe that both would be great fits for NHL teams looking to add


Both are NHL ready and will bring experience to which ever team they end us siging with.



Look at Nikita Zaitsev, both guys are in a somewhat same realm.

When asked about back end production

Antipin will bring that production, but will take time to adjust, biggest gain by getting him is the experience, 2 cups speak for themselves

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:21 AM

He is still spouting crap:  http://www.hockeybuzz.com/ we are just ignoring him...

Good job team SabreSpace! :thumbsup:



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:30 AM

Good signing for Rochester.... they need depth on the back-end.   Doesn't matter if he never sniffs the NHL.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:39 AM

The more the merrier.

 

Let there be some competition and may the best 6 be on the ice come mid October.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 11:58 AM

If we somehow landed a Zaitsev that would be amazing. Not getting my hopes up that this guy is him, though.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:30 PM

Well, it looks like so far he's #2 in playoff ice time on the best team in the KHL's Eastern conference (3rd-best in the KHL).  I can't figure out how to get the KHL's website to deliver regular season stats.

 

So presumably a top-pair defenseman from a good KHL team -- and also presumably a guy with some speed and skill. 

 

That sounds like it has potential.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:57 PM

Sportsnet reports #Sabres are close to signing D Viktor Antipin, who would - to my knowledge - become the NHL’s only active Kazakh player.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 12:57 PM

 

Sportsnet reports #Sabres are close to signing D Viktor Antipin, who would - to my knowledge - become the NHL’s only active Kazakh player.

 

Neat! 



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:04 PM

I wonder if he knows Borat?



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:06 PM

Are their any other Latvians in the NHL right now?



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:21 PM

Are their any other Latvians in the NHL right now?

Not sure if serious or kidding... :unsure:



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:24 PM

Not sure if serious or kidding... :unsure:

 

Oh, I see how you read that. Neither: it would be interesting to have the only Latvian and the only Kazakh players in the NHL.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:25 PM

Are their any other Latvians in the NHL right now?

 

Jordans Nolans.

 

Not sure if serious or kidding... :unsure:

 

The key word is "other".



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 01:26 PM

Oh, I see how you read that. Neither: it would be interesting to have the only Latvian and the only Kazakh players in the NHL.

I get you now. Sabres a trying to corner the market on nationalities represented in the NHL. :thumbsup:

 

Let's hope it works out better than the Bills and the "Ed Wang Experiment" :sick:



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:06 PM

Interesting stuff here.

 

I had occasion to peek at the Amerks' D corps - that Cole Schneider fella puts up some numbers (almost a PPG) and shoots left. Is he just not cut out for the NHL? I infer as much, as it looks like he's been in the A for a while.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:10 PM

If he is similar to Zaitsev we shouldn't be thinking a depth Dman to help out Rochester. Sounds like someone who can help out the Sabres next season.

 

Im not sure why size seems to keep coming up. Id love to look back the the 2015 draft page and see some of the remarks about Mitch Marner.

 

Erik Karlsson 6' 0 190lbs

Shane Ghostisbehere 5'11 180ilbs



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:31 PM

If he is similar to Zaitsev we shouldn't be thinking a depth Dman to help out Rochester. Sounds like someone who can help out the Sabres next season.

 

Im not sure why size seems to keep coming up. Id love to look back the the 2015 draft page and see some of the remarks about Mitch Marner.

 

Erik Karlsson 6' 0 190lbs

Shane Ghostisbehere 5'11 180ilbs

 

I agree that this should be considered an NHL move, not an AHL move. 

 

But I think it's fair to be concerned about size.  Marner isn't really relevant, as there are many more smaller nifty forwards than smaller defensemen.  And if a defenseman needs to be as good as Karlsson to overcome smaller size, then we haven't really proven anything.  As for Ghost, his play fell off substantially this year, so he's not a great example either.

 

Bottom line:  if a defenseman is on the small side, he needs to have really strong speed, puck skills and decision-making to be a good NHL defenseman.  Nothing controversial about that.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:37 PM

Isn't Marner 5'11'' or 6'0''? He's plenty tall enough, just has to fill out. 



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:44 PM

Looks like he's playing top line minutes (#2 minutes in 2016)  behind Chris Lee, an ex-AHL'er who could never crack an NHL lineup. 

 

Does that mean anything? No. Just pointing out his minutes. 



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 02:52 PM

I assume he's a great bowler.

Anti-pin? Anyone?

I really should get back to work.

I heard he has great hand-eye.

 

Neat! 

Good luck getting him into the country.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 03:08 PM

I heard he has great hand-eye.

 

Good luck getting him into the country.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 03:26 PM

Did we win the battle because he grew up loving Mogilny, or did we win the battle because all of those playoff teams decided he wasn't worth their time?

 

We won the battle because Buffalo reminded him of his home in Siberia.



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Posted 14 March 2017 - 04:09 PM

I agree that this should be considered an NHL move, not an AHL move. 
 
But I think it's fair to be concerned about size.  Marner isn't really relevant, as there are many more smaller nifty forwards than smaller defensemen.  And if a defenseman needs to be as good as Karlsson to overcome smaller size, then we haven't really proven anything.  As for Ghost, his play fell off substantially this year, so he's not a great example either.
 
Bottom line:  if a defenseman is on the small side, he needs to have really strong speed, puck skills and decision-making to be a good NHL defenseman.  Nothing controversial about that.


Yep. Lots of guys in the minors w/ Rafalski's size because they didn't have his skill & speed. This guy is listed slightly smaller than Brian. Would be expecting far more Ruhwedel than Gostibsehere. If they get him, hopefully he's closer to Ghost (even this season's version would be better than Chad).

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 04:25 PM

He isn't coming here to be in the AHL. It's likely NHL or bust.

You have to wonder if this signing is somewhat Guhle insurance. His skill set seems to be Guhle-ish. Good skater, some offense probably makes a good first pass. GMTM cheaply signs this guy and figures if Guhle isn't ready for the NHL then this gentleman will be. If we are lucky both guys are ready and we are 4/6 to a decent D group.

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Posted 14 March 2017 - 04:29 PM

He isn't coming here to be in the AHL. It's likely NHL or bust.

You have to wonder if this signing is somewhat Guhle insurance. His skill set seems to be Guhle-ish. Good skater, some offense probably makes a good first pass. GMTM cheaply signs this guy and figures if Guhle isn't ready for the NHL then this gentleman will be. If we are lucky both guys are ready and we are 4/6 to a decent D group.

Those qualities should be what we look for in every single defender