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#1 Cygnus X 1

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:12 PM

4 of the next 7 Sabres games are against the two worst teams in the league. That's 8 points for the taking. If they could split the other 6 points and grab 3, that would be huge. I don't see it happening, and there is talk that if they don't take advantage of this soft spot that DB is gone. I wonder if they have a replacement coach in mind and would then let Terry finish the season as interim. I am fine with Terry finishing the season behind the bench, but want something new for next season.

#2 nfreeman

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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:29 PM

It's hard to imagine any record other than 4-3 or 3-4.



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:39 PM

2-5



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Posted 15 February 2017 - 11:50 PM

4 of the next 7 Sabres games are against the two worst teams in the league. That's 8 points for the taking. If they could split the other 6 points and grab 3, that would be huge. I don't see it happening, and there is talk that if they don't take advantage of this soft spot that DB is gone. I wonder if they have a replacement coach in mind and would then let Terry finish the season as interim. I am fine with Terry finishing the season behind the bench, but want something new for next season.

 

Sabres enter their bye week against the Blues and Hawks, and then teams returning from the bye week are something like 3-9 so far, so that's gonna be tough as well. Not a good schedule for the Sabres.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:03 AM

Betcha they don't go on a run.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:07 AM

Betcha they don't go on a run.


Sure they do
.... A run for the bus

Boooom

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:12 AM

Betcha they don't go on a run.


Yep. Far too streaky this season. They can't string 3 good.periods.together. :)

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:18 AM

It's hard to imagine any record other than 4-3 or 3-4.


You could set your watch.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

Betcha they don't go on a run.

I'll bite...... Avatar bet, I say they get a minimum 10 points

Must use the Avatar until at least the end of the season



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:16 AM

I'll bite...... Avatar bet, I say they get a minimum 10 points

Must use the Avatar until at least the end of the season

10 of 14 possible points in the next 7 games?

You're on.  :beer:


Terms of the avatar bet though: The avatar should be hockey related in some way. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:21 AM

10 of 14 possible points in the next 7 games?

You're on.  :beer:


Terms of the avatar bet though: The avatar should be hockey related in some way. 

I wasn't planning on doing a PI on you but ok, IT'S ON



#12 d4rksabre

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:23 AM

I wasn't planning on doing a PI on you but ok, IT'S ON

:lol:



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 09:25 AM

Nice!!  Good luck boys.  Think I'm calling d4rk the heavy favorite for this one.  But you never know.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:48 AM

7 - 0
Buffalo needs to run the table. They must get secondary scoring from lines 3 and 4 as well as the D.

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:16 AM

Love whenever avatar bets are made on here

Edited by WildCard, 16 February 2017 - 11:16 AM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:23 AM

Love whenever avatar bets are made on here

 

The last one was not very enjoyable.



#17 d4rksabre

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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:25 AM

The last one was not very enjoyable.

That's why I made sure to set some very minor ground rules. A modicum of decency for this gentlemen's bet. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 11:51 AM

The last one was not very enjoyable.

Sure it was :lol:



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 12:14 PM

And a bye week in between those 7 games.

 

I kind of have the same mindset for the Bills. If you're a playoff contender, win the games you're supposed to win. If you can put together 11-14 points, you belong in the conversation. If not, you are what we thought you were. I'm guessing they'll get just enough points to be annoying, around 9. 



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:26 PM

I could see them beating Chicago and St. Louis, and going 1-3 against Colorado and Arizona.

Edited by Cygnus X 1, 16 February 2017 - 06:49 PM.


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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:45 PM

they need to win 17 games to make playoffs I think.



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 03:54 PM

Love whenever avatar bets are made on here

 

I think I made one at some point, but I don't remember with who or what it was about. I think it'll be determined at the end of this season (one of those "player X will do Y by the end of next season" deals).



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Posted 16 February 2017 - 10:36 PM

Updated chart after 2-0 win vs. Avalanche to not only compare vs. 2015 & 2016, but also show what current pace point total projects to (~90pts) and "win out". Obviously as the end points of the "win out" line get near the the "96 point pace" line, the faint playoff hopes become even fainter.

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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:06 AM

Updated chart after 2-0 win vs. Avalanche to not only compare vs. 2015 & 2016, but also show what current pace point total projects to (~90pts) and "win out". Obviously as the end points of the "win out" line get near the the "96 point pace" line, the faint playoff hopes become even fainter.

Thanks for the chart, that was great work.

 

I don't like DD and I think this team should be better then where they are right now.  But visually, this does show that we've improved from last year and back flirting with the playoffs.  Pretty much where many expected us to be.  I hate using injuries as an excuse but if Eichel doesn't get hurt maybe we're 4 or 5 points better and really in this thing.  With all the ups and downs it's good seeing a long term visual on their progress.



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:14 AM

Thanks for the chart, that was great work.

 

I don't like DD and I think this team should be better then where they are right now.  But visually, this does show that we've improved from last year and back flirting with the playoffs.  Pretty much where many expected us to be.  I hate using injuries as an excuse but if Eichel doesn't get hurt maybe we're 4 or 5 points better and really in this thing.  With all the ups and downs it's good seeing a long term visual on their progress.

I feel the same. 

Frankly speaking, looking at it this way helps keep me sane in relation to this team. 



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Posted 17 February 2017 - 08:17 AM

Thanks for the chart, that was great work.
 
I don't like DD and I think this team should be better then where they are right now.  But visually, this does show that we've improved from last year and back flirting with the playoffs.  Pretty much where many expected us to be.  I hate using injuries as an excuse but if Eichel doesn't get hurt maybe we're 4 or 5 points better and really in this thing.  With all the ups and downs it's good seeing a long term visual on their progress.


Figure no Eichel cost them ~4 points & no coach cost them another 6. 10 extra points right now would look awful good. Heck, even those extra 6 would. ;)

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 03:40 PM

What's it say right now?

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 03:55 PM

So far so good....they just need to keep it up


Figure no Eichel cost them ~4 points & no coach cost them another 6. 10 extra points right now would look awful good. Heck, even those extra 6 would. ;)

Yeah maybe even more than that...they are on a 93 point pace with Eichel in the lineup and a 74 point pace when he wasn't...that was 19 points over 82 games....figure at 59 games that would be worth 4-5 points and this team would be easily in the playoff right now, if not close to leading the division....



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Posted 18 February 2017 - 04:13 PM

Anybody getting any answers yet?

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Posted 18 February 2017 - 08:49 PM

Out of curiosity, how many points do you guys think it will take to reach the playoffs this year? I'm going to guess that 92 would get us there..



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 08:46 AM

4 out of possible 6pts. Going to need to win 3 out of 4 in keeping with the .750 pace. Doable with AZ/CO bottom-feeders after a bye. I'm just excited for it to be close in Feb/March. 



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 09:50 AM

Sabres success has been predicated on 3 defining factors.

Score on the PP.

Very hot goaltender. Before Sunday I believe Lehnet's stats were 99 saves on 103 shots.

Giving up 35 plus shots on goal per game.

I personally don't believe this winning formula is substainable.

Jack is also fourth in the league at drawing penalties. (.41 per game)

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 11:42 AM

I wonder if our advanced stats were this bad, or relatively close to it for the roster talent, under Nolan. IIRC they were. That should put to bed any Byslma doubt

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 12:18 PM

Dave Davis tweeted that we've allowed the most shots on goal in the NHL since January 1, with 37 per game.



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 01:32 PM

I wonder if our advanced stats were this bad, or relatively close to it for the roster talent, under Nolan. IIRC they were. That should put to bed any Byslma doubt

Eichel and McDavid have near identical goals per game. So...stats!



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Posted 20 February 2017 - 02:12 PM

Thanks for the chart, that was great work.
 
I don't like DD and I think this team should be better then where they are right now.  But visually, this does show that we've improved from last year and back flirting with the playoffs.  Pretty much where many expected us to be.  I hate using injuries as an excuse but if Eichel doesn't get hurt maybe we're 4 or 5 points better and really in this thing.  With all the ups and downs it's good seeing a long term visual on their progress.


Not crazy about our coach, but I don't think he's cost us the points that some on here think. Frankly once a player or a coach gets in a few fans dog house it spreads like cancer. I for one never got all the Nolan love. Just didn't think his coaching rose near to the level of his popularity.

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 02:17 PM

I wonder if our advanced stats were this bad, or relatively close to it for the roster talent, under Nolan. IIRC they were. That should put to bed any Byslma doubt

 

If Bylsma's advance stats even vaguely resemble Nolan's I want him sitting in the middle of the street on his suitcase by 5 o'clock today.


Edited by sabills, 20 February 2017 - 03:12 PM.


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Posted 20 February 2017 - 03:41 PM

I think little streak followed by the Chicago clunked told us everything.
1) the team is better
2) this team still doesn't know how to win big games
3) our coach doesn't yet have all the horses to lead a contender.

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 04:03 PM

I think little streak followed by the Chicago clunked told us everything.
1) the team is better
2) this team still doesn't know how to win big games
3) our coach doesn't yet have all the horses to lead a contender.


I don't necessarily disagree with your conclusions, but I don't agree with the process you used to reach them. Due to scheduling, the Chicago game was a set-up for the Sabres to fail and as such, reading so much into that one game is folly.

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Posted 20 February 2017 - 04:26 PM

I think little streak followed by the Chicago clunked told us everything.
1) the team is better
2) this team still doesn't know how to win big games
3) our coach doesn't yet have all the horses to lead a contender.

I don't think our team is better. I think Lehner has been better, if not amazing, and we played crap teams.