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#1 Randall Flagg

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:36 PM

https://twitter.com/...f_src=twsrc^tfw

 

Woah. A very upset Robin Lehner in the locker room..."this is beginning to get disrespectful, coach has a plan and players ignore it"

 

 

F5 F5 F5



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 10:38 PM

Well it's two things for me

1) If players aren't listening, it's because they don't believe Byslma is right. So, at least we have smart players

2) Byslma has lost the room

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:03 PM

Lehner: "It's not even disappointing anymore, it's starting to make me angry, it's all talk, it's disrespectful... (1/2)

 

Lehner: "...we have a game plan, we do the exact opposite" (2/2)

 

Lehner: "We haven't done anything in this league, Gio's won a Cup, the rest of us have won nothing... (1/2)

 

Lehner: "...it's time to realize to start respecting & listening to our coach" (2/2) #Sabres

 

Gonna be fun hearing different interpretations as to what's going on, but we can probably agree this kind of a disconnect is less than good in the grand scheme of things. 



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:09 PM

WHOA!

Time to jettison the coach, ASAP!
He's lost the room. It's over.

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:11 PM

More Lehner on not playing system: "Let's do another deke, let's do another play. .Get out of our zone? No, let's do the fancy thing."



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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:13 PM


Mike Harrington@ByMHarrington 3m3 minutes ago


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More Lehner on not playing system: "Let's do another deke, let's do another play. .Get out of our zone? No, let's do the fancy thing."

Well he's talking about Jack then

Does anyone view this as justification for keeping Byslma? As in, well if they did use his system they'd actually win?

If your franchise player doesn't like the coach, the coach will be gone. I find it telling that Crosby and Eichel appear to not believe in Byslma

Edited by WildCard, 12 February 2017 - 11:16 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:20 PM

I hate Dan's coaching, and everyone here knows it.

But the players can't be quitting/doing their own thing. Play his system, lose in it if it's a loser system, he'll get fired.

Not a fan of what seems to be going on.

Maybe gives some substance to all the times we see Dan giving a speech in the locker room and Jack doing everything but paying attention, or the times I've noticed Dan talking to Jack on the bench and Jack leaning far forward, looking like he's totally ignoring him. 


Edited by Randall Flagg, 12 February 2017 - 11:20 PM.


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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:30 PM


Nick Filpowski from Wkbw had this

Listening to #Sabres postgame comments -- BUF is a fractured team, w/o discipline, doesn't pay attention to Bylsma & no respect for the game

Ashley Chase a TV Reporter from Pittsburgh quoted the tweet and responded with

A familiar sound has finally made its way up I-79 and across I-90

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:33 PM

Does everyone still think he'll be the coach at the start of the next season?

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Posted 12 February 2017 - 11:40 PM

Does everyone still think he'll be the coach at the start of the next season?

 

For the first time I have hope he may not be. 



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:22 AM

 

More Lehner on not playing system: "Let's do another deke, let's do another play. .Get out of our zone? No, let's do the fancy thing."

 

I'm not sure why he doesn't just say "TF you doin Jack" :P


I do have to say that Lehner is pretty ballsy. He's been as big a part of this team's struggles as any other individual player this year. 


"It's time to realize we're a grinding team"

 

This has to be the root of everything, right? Lehner, maybe Gio, other guys buy in, the young skill doesn't and hasn't been listening? 

Wasn't there an old vs young player rift in the Wild locker room last year?

I wonder what Gio, Gorges, Moulson, are saying and thinking. ROR too. 


Edited by Randall Flagg, 13 February 2017 - 12:25 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:25 AM

Pittsburg fans had many of the same complaints about Bylsma following the cup run year. Many of them blame Bylsma for the drought they had afterwards

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:32 AM

Does everyone still think he'll be the coach at the start of the next season?


By everyone you mean Blue?

I'm not sure why he doesn't just say "TF you doin Jack" :P

I do have to say that Lehner is pretty ballsy. He's been as big a part of this team's struggles as any other individual player this year.

"It's time to realize we're a grinding team"

This has to be the root of everything, right? Lehner, maybe Gio, other guys buy in, the young skill doesn't and hasn't been listening?

Wasn't there an old vs young player rift in the Wild locker room last year?

I wonder what Gio, Gorges, Moulson, are saying and thinking. ROR too.

Like I said in the GDT, I don't like a goalie calling out skaters. Taking it public is only going to bring headaches.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:47 AM

"The last few days we've been going through how to play the 2nd period, coach draws it up there, giving a good game plan, and we do the exact opposite. We don't do what he said... That gets me angry, I think it gets a lot of guys angry."



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 12:59 AM

Does everyone still think he'll be the coach at the start of the next season?


The Pegulas are eating 3 years of Rex Ryan's contract (plus assorted assistants, I assume.) I don't think they want to turf another coach in year two. Even if it's needed, it starts to look bad.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:19 AM

The Pegulas are eating 3 years of Rex Ryan's contract (plus assorted assistants, I assume.) I don't think they want to turf another coach in year two. Even if it's needed, it starts to look bad.

 

So does a city on the verge of having TWO teams with the longest playoff drought in their sport. 



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 01:56 AM

Sounds to me like Lehner is really dumb.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 02:21 AM

Shut up and do your job tendy.

It's fine if he voices his displeasure within the confines of the lockerroom. But to do it in the media speaks very poorly of him as a professional. It won't be forgotten by the players.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:23 AM

Shut up and do your job tendy.
It's fine if he voices his displeasure within the confines of the lockerroom. But to do it in the media speaks very poorly of him as a professional. It won't be forgotten by the players.


To be honest, you actually think Lehner gives a ###### whether they forget it or not? This isn't Ryan Miller were talking about here, Lehner's flat out a big dude and is not afraid of anyone on the ice.

A little public shaming to try and get team mates to straighten up and fly right if they keep ######'in up isn't a bad thing, its called leadership.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 06:32 AM

If what he is saying is true (and I have just as much reason to think that it is true rather than it isn't), then I'd like to know who the biggest offenders are.  If getting out of the D-Zone is a big issue, that may fall on the D-men as much as the forwards.  Would that be someone not following the system? or just a lack of talent?

 

All of this may just be that this team isn't good enough yet.  Maybe a larger purge of the roster is due in the offseason than we think.

 

Here is the funny thing...this team seems to play a LOT better vs the top teams in the league than against everyone else.  My numbers might be wrong (I just took 3-5 minutes and added it up in my head) but this is what I came up with:

 

Vs Top teams with winning records:  11 wins in 20 games (Minny, Washington, Pittsburgh, Columbus, Rangers, Sharks Black Hawks, Sens, Canadians, Oilers)

Vs Everyone else 12 wins, 24 losses



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:07 AM

Hey Robin, maybe knock off the yuge rebounds before implanting yourself firmly in Dreary Dan's b-hole?

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:21 AM

Shut up and do your job tendy.

It's fine if he voices his displeasure within the confines of the lockerroom. But to do it in the media speaks very poorly of him as a professional. It won't be forgotten by the players.

Maybe they are giving up scoring chances by not doing what they are coached to do and he's getting pissed



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 07:39 AM


Edited by That Aud Smell, 13 February 2017 - 08:33 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:43 AM

Ryan Miller 2.0

And I can see it is just as polarizing as when Miller used to do it.

Edited by We've, 13 February 2017 - 08:43 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:47 AM

This doesn't seem likely to end well.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 08:53 AM

We're only 5 days away from the 6th anniversary of the Pegulas taking over the team.  It's also going on 6 years (coincidence?)  since the Sabres have been in the post-season.

We're sure not seeing a fast Chicago style rebuild where new owner/GM comes in, and the team improves noticeably every season (they caught fire after Quenneville became named coach, and have stayed one of the forces in the NHL ever since).  

Owners meddle.  GM seems content and complacent.   Coach seems like a fish out of water.  Brandon does whatever Brandon does, behind the scenes.   Great rebuild you got there, Tim Murray!  We'll be lucky to get the team BACK to where it was before Pegula,  you, Brandon and Bylsma took over.   lol


Edited by Jsixspd, 13 February 2017 - 08:54 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:01 AM

Paul Hamilton on WGR.

GMTM has some detective work to do. If the young core is not on board with this coach, it's trade players or get a new coach.

It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

Paul did not say who he thinks is not on board with DD, but he has to know.

This doesn't seem likely to end well.


If we get a new coach, it ends well for me.😀

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:01 AM

This doesn't seem likely to end well.



Probably not.
But hey.....

"Are you not entertained" :D

We're only 5 days away from the 6th anniversary of the Pegulas taking over the team. It's also going on 6 years (coincidence?) since the Sabres have been in the post-season.
We're sure not seeing a fast Chicago style rebuild where new owner/GM comes in, and the team improves noticeably every season (they caught fire after Quenneville became named coach, and have stayed one of the forces in the NHL ever since).
Owners meddle. GM seems content and complacent. Coach seems like a fish out of water. Brandon does whatever Brandon does, behind the scenes. Great rebuild you got there, Tim Murray! We'll be lucky to get the team BACK to where it was before Pegula, you, Brandon and Bylsma took over. lol

I could get on board with the sentiment, but being honest with myself I knew it wasn't going to be a 3 year whirlwind turn around. And that is where we are in my opinion, year 3 of the added components.

5 years, that's about where I put playoff contenders for the team at. And by that I mean having the ability to win a playoff series.

With that said, someone needs to get control of this ###### show before it does get out of hand.

Edited by Scottysabres, 13 February 2017 - 09:02 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:03 AM

Straight from Lehner's mouth to our ears. It would appear that this leopard cannot in fact change its spots. Dan Bylsma is who we think he is. 



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:11 AM

@ink
Not specifically True. There was a lot of us who didn't believe he would be fired until next Christmas at the earliest

I'm happy with Lehner. I don't care what it takes, just get Byslma fired while Julien is on the market

Paul Hamilton on WGR.

GMTM has some detective work to do. If the young core is not on board with this coach, it's trade players or get a new coach.

It will be interesting to see how this all shakes out.

Paul did not say who he thinks is not on board with DD, but he has to know.

If we get a new coach, it ends well for me.😀

It's evidently Eichel. I don't know if anyone else feels like that, but it couldn't be more obvious that Jack is the number one perpetrator. And guess what, DD? Just like in Pitt you're not gonna win that battle

Edited by WildCard, 13 February 2017 - 09:08 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:24 AM

It's evidently Eichel. 

 

It's gotta be.

 

"'And we have a structure but we don’t play it. If we’re going to chip it deep or do whatever we’re supposed to do, let’s do another deke, let’s do another play, get out of our zone. 'No, let’s do the fancy thing.'"


Question: Should we merge this with the "Let the Fire Bylsma Watch Begin" thread?



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:25 AM

If Dan wants them playing a grinding system I want them to wantonly ignore him, and Murray should want him on the street.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:26 AM

If Dan wants them playing a grinding system I want them to wantonly ignore him, and Murray should want him on the street.

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:27 AM

Is it a coincidence that this is occurring with their bye week rapidly approaching?

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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:28 AM

Yep it's got to be Eich.  DD has to go before this thing blows up.



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:30 AM

@ink
Not specifically True. There was a lot of us who didn't believe he would be fired until next Christmas at the earliest

I'm happy with Lehner. I don't care what it takes, just get Byslma fired while Julien is on the market
It's evidently Eichel. I don't know if anyone else feels like that, but it couldn't be more obvious that Jack is the number one perpetrator. And guess what, DD? Just like in Pitt you're not gonna win that battle

 

Do you think Julien would do any better with the talent on this team ? 



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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:35 AM

Do you think Julien would do any better with the talent on this team ? 

Yes.

 

By the way, love the avatar.


Edited by Derrico, 13 February 2017 - 09:36 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:38 AM

Do you think Julien would do any better with the talent on this team ?

Yes.

He did better with the same (being gracious ) talent in Boston.

Edit,

Boston does not have the talent we do.

Edited by Woods-Racer, 13 February 2017 - 09:39 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:43 AM

Clearly not a coach issue, love how the pro-fire Dan club twists the verbiage.

Edited by DirtDart, 13 February 2017 - 09:44 AM.


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Posted 13 February 2017 - 09:46 AM

We need Drury to show up with a giant Stanley Cup poster and put it up outside 5he dressing room........