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#1 WildCard

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:15 PM

Now that DD had found where Kane is supposed to play, he's been producing. Combine that with the fact that he's stopped being Kaleta wreckless and the market for a defensmen is so freaking absurd, why not just keep him? Thoughts?

Edited by WildCard, 12 January 2017 - 08:05 AM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:30 PM

Yeah let him keep putting up points till his antics are outweighed by his play then see what stupid GM'S will give us at the deadline. Mind you they'll prolly only want to give futures if they're going for the cup. Heck keep him.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:44 PM

Now that DD had found where Kane is supposed to play, he's been producing. Combine that with the fact that he's stopped being Kaleta wreckless and the market for a defensmen is so freaking absurd, why not just keep him? Thoughts?

 

Two reasons, for me:

1) I have little faith in these trends to continue

2) I'm doubtful the money makes sense when his contract is up



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:50 PM

True's very valid second point notwithstanding, I'm firmly in "keep him" mode right now. I like him as a player.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 09:58 PM

Keep him. If they get a "knock your socks off" offer for him take it.

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:02 PM

Missed almost a 1/3 of the season with injury and he still leads the team in even strength 5v5 goals. Of course you keep him.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:04 PM

Missed almost a 1/3 of the season with injury and he still leads the team in even strength 5v5 goals. Of course you keep him.

But he has a propensity to get injured, and his value will probably never be higher than now

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:09 PM

Right now he fits and is producing. If something fits better you move him, but I would not sell simply to sell.

Edited by 3putt, 10 January 2017 - 10:09 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:09 PM

Keep him. If they get a "knock your socks off" offer for him take it.

 

 

Yep.

 

But he has a propensity to get injured, and his value will probably never be higher than now

 

Nope.



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:10 PM

But he has a propensity to get injured, and his value will probably never be higher than now

 

My opinion is until you can get a couple of other wingers who can put the puck into the net, you don't give up your best 5v5 scorer. 

He doesn't play a pretty game but he's effective and he's one of the few guys who looks ready made to be a playoff player on this team



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:38 PM

If we can get a top 4 D, trade him

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:47 PM

I think a few Western Conference Teams will be calling about him, Foligno and Zemgus.

If it's Anaheim Shea Theodore?

The Kings Jake Muzzin?


I say trade him for the right package i.e. a Young D Man who would be in our top four, who is currently down the depth chart or in the AHL because of roster depth. Figuring that keeping Kane beyond next season would be cost prohibitive because of cap issues

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Posted 10 January 2017 - 10:59 PM

Kane is really starting to become the player we thought he could be when we got him...



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:08 PM

What tradevalue does E.K have now ? not 5,2 mill, thats for sure, so what do we have to trade with him to get what we want, it has to be a 2nd draftpick and like kulikov?



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Posted 10 January 2017 - 11:16 PM

I think a few Western Conference Teams will be calling about him, Foligno and Zemgus.

If it's Anaheim Shea Theodore?

The Kings Jake Muzzin?


I say trade him for the right package i.e. a Young D Man who would be in our top four, who is currently down the depth chart or in the AHL because of roster depth. Figuring that keeping Kane beyond next season would be cost prohibitive because of cap issues

I'm fine keeping him.  His contract isn't egregious and he's finding his game.  That said, if we can swing a trade to get a young defenseman (prospect) that could be part of our Top 4 for years to come, I'm definitely interested.  Anaheim's depth makes sense for us.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:20 AM

I've been very happy with his recent play, but for the majority of his time here he's been a disappointment. I'd prefer to see him traded while his stock is high before it comes crashing back down again. Especially if we can get a good defensemen for him. I don't know enough about whose out there to speculate on what that trade would be, but hopefully GMTM is shopping him around for someone he likes.

 

That said if they keep him, I'm OK with it so long as he keeps up this level of play. I'm not optimistic though..



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 06:55 AM

So many are assuming that this is the peak of Kane's career and that we should trade him now while we still can. Is it not also reasonable to predict that Kane might also get better as he gels with his teammates and gains more maturity on and off the ice? He's still only 25. He does have a unique skillset that the team is otherwise lacking. The Kane trade was one of the two marquee trades Murray made that will define his early GM career. I doubt he's going to hit the "abort" button on this one unless the trade return offers are skewed heavily in his favor. As in top 2 d-man return, not top-4.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:24 AM

I have to admit I'm confused by this, we are one of the worst goal scoring teams in the league and you want to trade your best 5v5 goal scorer, your 2nd highest goal scorer and your 2nd highest goals per game scorer for a Dman????? He better be a top 2 LHD to even think about it.

 

For as disappointing this season has gone mainly because of injuries, we are 1 point behind Tampa Bay and Dallas and 2 behind Nashville with games in hand. We're starting to get our injured back on the ice and playing well and you want to blow it up already??? I just don't get it. Did anyone think we would be this close in points to those 3 teams and be having a disappointing season?? Some of those hot teams early this year are going to back track some, if you're going to trade some guys on the team you start with your older vets.... Gorges, Moulson, Franson, Now your making sense but a 25 year old who happens to be a goal scorer and one of the very few speed players on the team, not without a MAJOR return.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 07:42 AM

The Taylor Hall/Adam Larsson (sp) trade indicates, to me, that Kane's value would be short of a top- dman.

I made my personal antipathy for the player known a few months ago.

Right now, he's going pretty good. And we need the scoring, Lord knows.

I wouldn't need my socks to be knocked off in order to move him -- maybe just some tingling in my feet would do. Not like the pins and needles kind, though. A happier tingling.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:35 AM

Unless we get a mad return I would keep him.. He's a pesky richard



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:42 AM

I have no intention of trading Kane. As long as he stays off the Eichel line for the rest of eternity, he is a productive player and provides the speed and relentless forecheck for the new Reinhart line. Running 3 scoring lines has revitalized this team in terms of productivity and watchability.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 08:55 AM

If the team can make a run towards a playoff spot, keep him. 

If not, consider trading as his value is peaking and he's proven to be an above average injury risk as well as an above average risk in terms of off-ice antics causing him to miss time or be a major distraction. 

However don't trade him for a bag of pucks. Needs to be a solid return with younger and/or proven players signed to lower cap consuming contracts. 

 

If he's still here after the trade deadline based on Sabres playoff position or lack of a decent return, then reconsider the situation after the season ends. 

 

Note: I do think we are seeing "peak Kane" as 25 is not an age where wingers typically develop into better players than they had been previously. I.e. when healthy and on his game he's a 30 goalie scoring physical force. We just haven't seen him healthy or on his game as much as hoped the past 1.5 years. 



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:10 AM

If the team can make a run towards a playoff spot, keep himwould need 

If not, consider trading as his value is peaking and he's proven to be an above average injury risk as well as an above average risk in terms of off-ice antics causing him to miss time or be a major distraction. 

However don't trade him for a bag of pucks. Needs to be a solid return with younger and/or proven players signed to lower cap consuming contracts. 

 

If he's still here after the trade deadline based on Sabres playoff position or lack of a decent return, then reconsider the situation after the season ends. 

 

Note: I do think we are seeing "peak Kane" as 25 is not an age where wingers typically develop into better players than they had been previously. I.e. when healthy and on his game he's a 30 goalie scoring physical force. We just haven't seen him healthy or on his game as much as hoped the past 1.5 years. 

Patrick Sharp is one noteable exception. His game took off when he found his role with the Hawks.  I would need to be blown away before I dealt him unless doing so fixes our expansion issues to allow us to clear dead cap.  I wonder if TM will trade for a goalie to expose.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:14 AM

I would trade him for a top pairing D-man, thats about it though. 



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:51 AM

Here's a question, is he vulnerable for the Vegas Expansion draft?



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 09:57 AM

Here's a question, is he vulnerable for the Vegas Expansion draft?

 

Yes.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:04 AM

So if that's the case, do we try to trade him now for a known quantity? Or keep him around to help protect others on the roster?

 

What do we get in compensation (if anything) if they take one of our players? I'm either blind or can't seem to find it. 



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:27 AM

So if that's the case, do we try to trade him now for a known quantity? Or keep him around to help protect others on the roster?

 

What do we get in compensation (if anything) if they take one of our players? I'm either blind or can't seem to find it. 

 

 

No team will be compensated for the player it loses in the expansion draft.  (Well, except for their share of the $500 million expansion fee!)

 

Kane is an eligible draftee, but he is protectable, too.  I would guess that whomever the Sabres would receive in return would be a player in the same situation, so trading him wouldn't really solve the expansion draft problem.  



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:37 AM

I guess my original question was more like, will the Sabres use one of their saves on Kane, or leave him vulnerable.

 

The rules

 


* Clubs will have two options for players they wish to protect in the Expansion Draft: 

a) Seven forwards, three defensemen and one goaltender

b) Eight skaters (forwards/defensemen) and one goaltender

* All players who have currently effective and continuing "No Movement" clauses at the time of the Expansion Draft (and who to decline to waive such clauses) must be protected (and will be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

* All first- and second-year professionals, as well as all unsigned draft choices, will be exempt from selection (and will not be counted toward their club's applicable protection limits).

Our defense isn't that deep, I'd imagine we go with option A. I'm not up on the contracts, and I'm not sure if Sam and Jack are considered 2nd year or 3rd year (previous season, or current?). We have to protect Okposo and we'll definitely protect RoR. What other forwards though?



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:40 AM

Samson and Jack are both exempt from the expansion draft. So yea, even though I'm far from Kane's biggest fan, there's no reason not to protect him.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 11:36 AM

Trade Kane only if it means a top 4 D or a young forward and low number 1. Could be turned into future D.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:08 PM

He was exactly the type of player the Sabres needed when they traded for him.  I remember the talk here about it.

 

Since he is finally turning into that player here I say no way to trading him.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:15 PM

Keep.

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 12:26 PM

I'm punting my decision out as far as possible - to see if Kane's play of late is a streak or a solid trend.  



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 02:22 PM

There is no tradevalue, his value cant be more than 1,5 mill by now, so many injuries and 0,5 points per game is just not worth it, atleast thats what i would think if i was a gm.
So i guess i say keep and hope he produces more goals and raises his value so we can trade him for something worth while.


Edited by MODO Hockey, 11 January 2017 - 02:23 PM.


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Posted 11 January 2017 - 03:07 PM

keep him. what is this constant rebuilding mentality to grow more and more prospects. when does the time come when we keep our players and make a move toward the playoffs? so bizarre. 



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 05:00 PM

Keep. 30 goals. Book it!

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:20 PM

we aren't trading him at the deadline I think, if anythign happens its over the summer if he states he doesn't want to resign with buffalo.



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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:56 PM

I vote keep unless a knock-socks-off trade offer is received, which I think is highly unlikely.

There is NFW he is exposed in the expansion draft.

BUT

I have a little, nagging suspicion that all is not happy behind the scenes with the Sabres and Kane. I see no joy from him on the ice, even when he scores.

He congratulates his teammates, and sticks up for them in scrums, and plays hard -- but something seems off.

Maybe they read him the riot act after his legal scrapes last summer and told him they were going to ship him out for the first decent offer. Maybe he thought no one defended him and he felt betrayed. Maybe the rumors from Winnipeg were true and he's a self-absorbed jerk whom no one can stand.

Or maybe I'm imagining the whole thing.

But I won't be surprised if he's traded. (Although I will be disappointed, because I like his game.)

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Posted 11 January 2017 - 10:58 PM

If he keeps playing, and putting up goals like he has the last couple of weeks, I'd even want to resign him.