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#1001 dudacek

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Posted Yesterday, 11:06 PM

Does Vegas have the horses to trade up to grab Patrick?

 

If you were Philly, would you take 6, 13 and 15? I would.



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Posted Today, 12:50 AM

Does Vegas have the horses to trade up to grab Patrick?

 

If you were Philly, would you take 6, 13 and 15? I would.

 

The math says Philly should take that deal.   https://www.broadstr...alue-trading-up

According the draft pick value table I use:

 

The 2nd pick is worth 69.9 pts

 

the 6th pick is worth 45.9 pts

13th = 31.5

15th = 28.5

 

However, I think LV would be crazy to make the trade.  They need to start an entire prospect pool.  I'd package the 13 and 15th to try to move up 3rd or 4th, but I'd keep my 6th.  



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Posted Today, 04:43 AM

I think Tippett is going to be our pick, for whatever reason. Just a guess from what I've read. I've advocated for not drafting him, so I'll have to come around on him, I suppose.

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Posted Today, 05:30 AM

There's no better goalscorer in the draft than Tippett. The rest of his game sucks RIGHT NOW but he's 18 and that can change. He would be gold with eichel. Imagine eichel nylander Tippett in two years? In saying that, if Makar somehow makes it to 8 he's the pick and Ljengrin (spelling) is a strong possibility. He was a top 3 player heading​ into the year before Mono got him

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Posted Today, 08:18 AM

Royce Crisp just said that Buffalo will take the player with the best shot of being a good NHL player. 

 

The main 3 or 4 defenders: Heiskanen, Makar, Liljegren, and Valimaki/Vakanainen specifically named by Crisp in that order when asked about defenders in this draft. 


Believe that there is a tier of about 12 players after the top 4-5 grouping. 


Edited by ShadowLiger, Today, 08:54 AM.


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Posted Today, 08:33 AM

Royce just said that Buffalo will take the player with the best shot of being a good NHL player. 
 
The main 3 or 4 defenders: Heiskanen, Makar, Liljegren, and Valimaki/Vakanainen specifically named by Royce in that order when asked about defenders in this draft. 
Believe that there is a tier of about 12 players after the top 4-5 grouping.


Jeff Crisp- Royce was let go when GMTM was fired

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Posted Today, 08:34 AM

Royce just said that Buffalo will take the player with the best shot of being a good NHL player. 
 
The main 3 or 4 defenders: Heiskanen, Makar, Liljegren, and Valimaki/Vakanainen specifically named by Royce in that order when asked about defenders in this draft. 
Believe that there is a tier of about 12 players after the top 4-5 grouping.


Royce? Wasn't he fired?
And where can I read/listen/watch?

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Posted Today, 08:39 AM

Royce just said that Buffalo will take the player with the best shot of being a good NHL player. 

 

The main 3 or 4 defenders: Heiskanen, Makar, Liljegren, and Valimaki/Vakanainen specifically named by Royce in that order when asked about defenders in this draft. 


Believe that there is a tier of about 12 players after the top 4-5 grouping. 

Not directing this at you Liger but that comment by Royce just seems like something captain obvious would say. That would be the hope with every selection you make I would think.


Edited by bunomatic, Today, 08:43 AM.


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Posted Today, 08:42 AM

Royce? Wasn't he fired?
And where can I read/listen/watch?

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Posted Today, 08:45 AM

There's no better goalscorer in the draft than Tippett. The rest of his game sucks RIGHT NOW but he's 18 and that can change. He would be gold with eichel. Imagine eichel nylander Tippett in two years? In saying that, if Makar somehow makes it to 8 he's the pick and Ljengrin (spelling) is a strong possibility. He was a top 3 player heading​ into the year before Mono got him

 

 

Tippett is a shooter and pure goal scorer. Why wouldn't we want him to play wing with Eichel? He skating is also considered high end and has a great burst. Tippett is also very effective in the cycle game. Contrary, to what most think he is actually a very good passer and play-maker but does have a shoot first mentality. Wrist shot is deadly and slap shot is extremely effective.

 

He is 18 and will need to be coached so that he isn't a liability in his own end. I figure, if he is playing with Jack, how much D do I really want him playing?

 

I'll be excited to see the Sabres draft him



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Posted Today, 08:54 AM

Jeff Crisp- Royce was let go when GMTM was fired

Fixed, sorry for that. 



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Posted Today, 08:57 AM

Fixed, sorry for that.


No worries


Per Corey Pronman the Devils maybe leaning towards picking Cale Makar First Overall

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Posted Today, 09:00 AM

No worries


Per Corey Pronman the Devils maybe leaning towards picking Cale Makar First Overall

Smart team

I think Tippett is going to be our pick, for whatever reason. Just a guess from what I've read. I've advocated for not drafting him, so I'll have to come around on him, I suppose.

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Posted Today, 09:11 AM

No worries


Per Corey Pronman the Devils maybe leaning towards picking Cale Makar First Overall

Oh please let this happen, the shenanigans that will ensue 



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Posted Today, 09:28 AM

No worries


Per Corey Pronman the Devils maybe leaning towards picking Cale Makar First Overall

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Posted Today, 09:29 AM

No worries


Per Corey Pronman the Devils maybe leaning towards picking Cale Makar First Overall


That'd make me feel a lot better about dropping 6-8, since it wouldn't have mattered anyway. I also wonder if this would put the kibosh to Vegas' attempted trade up. Philly may have been okay trading away from Patrick, but maybe Hischier being available changes that.

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Posted Today, 09:37 AM

Jeff Crisp on WGR now. 


Crisp along with Kevin Devine will be running the draft with input from Botterill. 



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Posted Today, 09:40 AM

Jeff Crisp on WGR now.


Interesting he and Devine will run the draft with input from Botterill.


Stated they will have eight players targeted for the 8th Pick, but Botterill has some things in the hopper about moving up or down

And he did give some love to Greg Royce as well.

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Posted Today, 09:41 AM

"Jason wants good players that will help the Sabres win, we might fine tune what makes a good Sabre going forward"  



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Posted Today, 09:45 AM

That'd make me feel a lot better about dropping 6-8, since it wouldn't have mattered anyway. I also wonder if this would put the kibosh to Vegas' attempted trade up. Philly may have been okay trading away from Patrick, but maybe Hischier being available changes that.

If I was McPhee I would want a shot at either Makar or Neskinen.  Paired with Theodore down the road and you are building a nice blue line.  They could sit pat and pick up a good F and Valimaki and Branstrom if they so choose.  Nice position to be in.  



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Posted Today, 09:48 AM

Judging from what Crisp said, I would say the Sabres will rank their 8 guys they want at #8 and take whoever is highest on their list. I can see us getting a forward. This mad dash for defenders that has developed could land us a great player at #8. 

 

If I was McPhee I would want a shot at either Makar or Neskinen.  Paired with Theodore down the road and you are building a nice blue line.  They could sit pat and pick up a good F and Valimaki and Branstrom if they so choose.  Nice position to be in.  

I would do your 2nd option. Take Valimaki and Brannstrom while getting someone like Glass or Mittlestad or Vilardi.