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#41 Randall Flagg

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:36 AM

Yeah, I didn't mean to put an order to that. And to be fair to Ovie, he's had a team built around him that has a chance at the cup for approximately one year. Last year.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:36 AM

Yeah, I didn't mean to put an order to that. And to be fair to Ovie, he's had a team built around him that has a chance at the cup for approximately one year. Last year.

He's had more chances than that

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:37 AM

He's had more chances than that


Yes. However, the team also tried to sabotage his prime by trying to play like the Devils for about three years.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:45 AM

What Caps teams were good enough defensively? The year he scored 65, they wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.

They've had a few "that's definitely a playoff team without Ovie" teams but until last year their defense ranged from tire fire to mediocre, and their goaltending was suspect (Holtby is now a Vezina contender)

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:49 AM

What Caps teams were good enough defensively? The year he scored 65, they wouldn't have made the playoffs without him.

They've had a few "that's definitely a playoff team without Ovie" teams but until last year their defense ranged from tire fire to mediocre, and their goaltending was suspect (Holtby is now a Vezina contender)


Didn't they have a year or two where they lost to epic goaltending performances by Lundqvist and Halak? I thought those teams were good enough to make a run.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:44 AM

Didn't they have a year or two where they lost to epic goaltending performances by Lundqvist and Halak? I thought those teams were good enough to make a run.

Well, the Halak team was an 8 seed that ended up losing to a team that lost decidedly to the Hawks that year, but I know that a hot goalie can beat any team on his own sometimes. And I don't remember much about the Rangers-Caps series, but they've never gotten out of the second round with Ovechkin, so I don't know.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:45 AM

Well, the Halak team was an 8 seed that ended up losing to a team that lost decidedly to the Hawks that year, but I know that a hot goalie can beat any team on his own sometimes. And I don't remember much about the Rangers-Caps series, but they've never gotten out of the second round with Ovechkin, so I don't know.

They've run into the Pens a few times

Who was that Halak team? Philly?

Edited by WildCard, 13 October 2016 - 10:45 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:45 AM

They've run into the Pens a few times

Who was that Halak team? Philly?


Montreal.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 10:46 AM

Montreal.

They didn't ay the Hawks then. Unless I'm reading that incorrectly

Montreal lost to Philly. My mistake

Edited by WildCard, 13 October 2016 - 10:46 AM.


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Posted 13 October 2016 - 11:53 AM

With Jonathan Quick getting hurt and being out for six weeks or more for the Kings, I just want to say that I hope Jeff Zatkoff shits the bed and kills their season. ###### Zatkoff too.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 12:07 PM

What happened to Quick?

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 12:14 PM

What happened to Quick?

His style.



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Posted 13 October 2016 - 12:15 PM

His style.


Aye. LBI's forever.

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 07:02 PM

Two opening night goals for Detroit so far.... both scored by Vanek.



#55 Randall Flagg

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Posted 13 October 2016 - 09:05 PM

Watching Pens-Caps, we are as far away from this level of hockey as we've ever been.


Marchand had 5 points tonight.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 11:27 AM

Watching Pens-Caps, we are as far away from this level of hockey as we've ever been.


Marchand had 5 points tonight.

 

Yeah, it was the same thing in the Detroy-it game.  Players winning the puck along the boards and having teammates in open ice not too far away to advance the play.  What a concept.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 12:08 PM

Well, I'll be damned. Sounds like maybe Carey Price DOES have influenza.

 

4m

#canadiens announced that Carey Price is at home. Severe case of flu (fever) and taking antibiotics.



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 03:24 PM

Brandon Dubinsky was a shiny -5 last night...



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:01 PM

Brandon Dubinsky was a shiny -5 last night...

Wow, I can't believe there's a player worse than Risto in this league



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 04:45 PM

Laine had himself quite a game last night. His typical corner-picking wrist shot to score his first ever goal, then assisted on the tying goal with the goalie pulled at the end, after the Jets were down 4-1 in the 3rd. Jets won in OT.

Puljujarvi also scored in his debut. He looked pretty lost though IMO



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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:14 PM


Well, I'll be damned. Sounds like maybe Carey Price DOES have influenza.

enaud Lavoie @renlavoietva 4m

#canadiens announced that Carey Price is at home. Severe case of flu (fever) and taking antibiotics.

Hmm antibiotics dont treat the flu.... Weird

#62 That Aud Smell

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:36 PM

Hmm antibiotics dont treat the flu.... Weird


Bacterial infection secondary to the respiratory piece of the virus?

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 05:48 PM

Bacterial infection secondary to the respiratory piece of the virus?


Zika

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 06:11 PM

Bacterial infection secondary to the respiratory piece of the virus?

Possible, just precautionary, but that screams superstar getting treated like a king lol.

Zika

Yes please!!

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Posted 14 October 2016 - 07:33 PM

https://twitter.com/...088433072246784

 

Subban scores in his first game with the Preds. Great celly, too.



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 02:32 AM

No suspension for Shaw. Ridonkulous.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 03:15 AM

McDavid 6 points in 2 games and he received a penalty tonight for embellishing when he was going to grab the puck for a breakaway. That team if the can add one more quality defenseman will challenge for a playoff spot for sure.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 05:21 AM

McDavid 6 points in 2 games and he received a penalty tonight for embellishing when he was going to grab the puck for a breakaway. That team if the can add one more quality defenseman will challenge for a playoff spot for sure.

 

I have a horrible feeling McDavid - Eichel is going to be a Crosby - Bobby Ryan type 1-2 relationship. I think Eichel will be good, probably a bit better than Ryan - but I actually am sceptical he will ever be a superstar



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 07:40 AM

McDavid



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:28 AM

I have a horrible feeling McDavid - Eichel is going to be a Crosby - Bobby Ryan type 1-2 relationship. I think Eichel will be good, probably a bit better than Ryan - but I actually am sceptical he will ever be a superstar


Somebody needs to go back and re-watch some Eichel from last season. Kid is a stud. If there's a Bobby Ryan from that draft, it's Dylan Strome.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:41 AM

Somebody needs to go back and re-watch some Eichel from last season. Kid is a stud. If there's a Bobby Ryan from that draft, it's Dylan Strome.


Yup. Great call on Strome too. Eichel likely won't be nearly the player McDavid is. And that's okay - provided the team develops as planned.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 08:50 AM

Yup. Great call on Strome too. Eichel likely won't be nearly the player McDavid is. And that's okay - provided the team develops as planned.


McDavid is clearly on another level than Eichel. He's a mind blowing talent to watch. Honestly, I have trouble processing the things he can do at full speed. He's the most dynamic talent I've ever seen and I'm tempted to get game center just go watch him.

No shame in Eichel being a step down from that, as a step down from that is still a top-10 talent in the league. We should all think back to the post co-caps years and ask if there was a single player on those teams we wouldn't have traded for Tyler Seguin. And I think Seguin is Eichel's floor once fully developed.

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 12:10 PM

Preds looking good with subban :D



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 12:58 PM

McDavid is clearly on another level than Eichel. He's a mind blowing talent to watch. Honestly, I have trouble processing the things he can do at full speed. He's the most dynamic talent I've ever seen and I'm tempted to get game center just go watch him.
No shame in Eichel being a step down from that, as a step down from that is still a top-10 talent in the league. We should all think back to the post co-caps years and ask if there was a single player on those teams we wouldn't have traded for Tyler Seguin. And I think Seguin is Eichel's floor once fully developed.

I would advise against game center. Watching McDavid causes sudden outbursts of "Why are we cursed" and " ###### Bettman" and is followed by sudden onset of depression and spontaneous week night binge drinking. I am trying to cancel and get my money back. It might kill me ;)

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:17 PM

What in god's name happened to Hockey Night in Canada? Currently watching the French feed of Ottawa -Montreal because I just couldn't take the cumbersome attempts, misguided at best, at pro Canadian (starring Pavel Bure and Mats Sundin!) autofellacio any further, and those six years of French classes neeed to count for something...

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:31 PM

I have left field bleacher seats to Wrigley so I am off hockey for a day.   



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:43 PM

Marner with a beautiful goal

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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:44 PM

Marner with a beautiful goal

 

Watching Toronto is depressing--they play how I want the Sabres to play. 



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:47 PM

Watching Toronto is depressing--they play how I want the Sabres to play. 

Hence my advice to ditch game center.  Wait til you see the Oil. 



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Posted 15 October 2016 - 06:52 PM

Watching Toronto is depressing--they play how I want the Sabres to play. 

I was just talking to myself ( i do that often these days ) and I said you know Bun this is an exciting team for one thats just coming out of a tank. Whats happened to the sabres ? I'm hoping the style of play picks up as our guys come back but I'm not sure Disco s coaching style translates to what I would deem exciting.


In game 2 of their season the leafs are playing like a playoff team.