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#41 Neo

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Posted 08 August 2016 - 07:56 PM

Joe Yerdon who covers the Sabres for NHL.com and is an excellent follow on Twitter, wrote who he feels are the Sabres Top Prospects and their expected arrival in the NHL. 
 
https://www.nhl.com/...-30/c-281293572


Asplund ahead of Fasching? A surprise, to me. I suspect that's the writer's ranking and not a result of considering Fasching an NHLer, last season's final roster status notwithstanding.

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Posted 14 August 2016 - 11:56 PM

Good write-up here and I agree with most of the author's analysis. Fitz was on ice in all situations and looked smooth. He even had the biggest hit in the Canada blowout. Didn't get a chance to see much Rasmus but read his two-way play was on display. No doubt Thompson was on another level and looks like a steal for the Blues.



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Posted 15 August 2016 - 08:17 AM

McAvoy destroyed Crouse.  I think that was the biggest hit.



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Posted 15 August 2016 - 08:31 AM

Thought for a hot second Tage was the guy I was vehemently against drafting late in the 1st for any team, on the contrary I really liked him and am gald to hear he is doing well. Should be a good player.

 

The player I was thinking of was Logan Stanley. 



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Posted 16 August 2016 - 03:07 AM

McAvoy destroyed Crouse.  I think that was the biggest hit.

 

Absolutely. My mistake. Better keep your head up Lawson.

 

It was still nice to see Fitz line a guy up at his size.  



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Posted 16 August 2016 - 09:49 AM

Joe Yerdon who covers the Sabres for NHL.com and is an excellent follow on Twitter, wrote who he feels are the Sabres Top Prospects and their expected arrival in the NHL. 

 

https://www.nhl.com/...-30/c-281293572

 

Noted jerk Joe Yerdon?



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Posted 17 August 2016 - 09:05 PM

Thought for a hot second Tage was the guy I was vehemently against drafting late in the 1st for any team, on the contrary I really liked him and am gald to hear he is doing well. Should be a good player.
 
The player I was thinking of was Logan Stanley.


I thought it was a very odd pick when the Jets took him, and I think they even traded up for him. Guy has Pylon written all over him.

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Posted 21 August 2016 - 02:34 PM

https://twitter.com/...444387378987008
 
Gustav Possler's first goal with Djurgårdens


Edited by Hoss, 21 August 2016 - 02:34 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 04:18 PM

http://www.espn.com/...ws-patrik-laine

ESPN has us with one prospect in the top 100, two in the top 120 (Nylandsr at 11 and Asplund at 101).
Laine over Matthews.

Zero goalies in the 16 they mention.
http://www.espn.com/...kiy-matt-murray

Edited by Hoss, 30 August 2016 - 04:20 PM.


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Posted 30 August 2016 - 04:31 PM

http://www.espn.com/...ws-patrik-laine
ESPN has us with one prospect in the top 100, two in the top 120 (Nylandsr at 11 and Asplund at 101).
Laine over Matthews.
Zero goalies in the 16 they mention.http://www.espn.com/...kiy-matt-murray


Interesting on the goalies. Seems like we have been blessed at the position lately but no so sure going forward

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 05:35 PM

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Buffalo Sabres prospect and junior Cal Petersen will be first goaltender to wear C in @NDHockey history. Bjork, Evans, Ripley all with an A.

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Posted 31 August 2016 - 09:15 PM

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Buffalo Sabres prospect and junior Cal Petersen will be first goaltender to wear C in @NDHockey history. Bjork, Evans, Ripley all with an A.

 

At least we know she'll drop the gloves.



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Posted 31 August 2016 - 11:02 PM

Interesting on the goalies. Seems like we have been blessed at the position lately but no so sure going forward

Peterson is a future #1

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 07:41 AM

http://www.espn.com/...ws-patrik-laine
ESPN has us with one prospect in the top 100, two in the top 120 (Nylandsr at 11 and Asplund at 101).
Laine over Matthews.
Zero goalies in the 16 they mention.http://www.espn.com/...kiy-matt-murray


I'm surprised that Guhle is no where to be found on that list

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:05 AM

I'm surprised that Guhle is no where to be found on that list

Don't think you should be.
Guhle appears to be far more highly ranked by Sabre fans than prospect rankers and scouting services.
I have seen him in the top 100 in places, but mostly before this year's draft added another 50 good prospects to the pool.

Edited by dudacek, 01 September 2016 - 08:06 AM.


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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:31 AM

Don't think you should be.
Guhle appears to be far more highly ranked by Sabre fans than prospect rankers and scouting services.
I have seen him in the top 100 in places, but mostly before this year's draft added another 50 good prospects to the pool.


Yup. Most overrated prospect in the system. Well, him or Ullmark. I go back and forth on which.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:39 AM

Yup. Most overrated prospect in the system. Well, him or Ullmark. I go back and forth on which.

It's Guhle. People think because he can skate well he is an NHL ready player and that just isn't the case.



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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:40 AM

Guhle is our best, and maybe only, hope for an upgrade on the LHD position.**

 

** I have no idea if that is true.



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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:44 AM

Guhle is our best, and maybe only, hope for an upgrade on the LHD position.**

** I have no idea if that is true.


Long term this is mostly true, but that doesn't make him a top NHL prospect or even a likely top-4 Dman.

It's Guhle. People think because he can skate well he is an NHL ready player and that just isn't the case.


I think my biggest issue is when the "He would have gotten a taste of action out of camp if not for the injury" becomes "He would've made the team without the injury!" Two things separated by a giant chasm are too often being used interchangeably.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:46 AM

I honestly don't know that he would've gotten a taste at the NHL level last year. I know he was playing well in camp and during the preseason, but he got hurt before final cuts were made. Keeping him up while injured allows the NHL trainers to work with him and help him with recovery.
Has it ever been confirmed that he was in for a tryout if the injury didn't happen?

That said - I do think he's got a shot to make it this year.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 08:56 AM

Guhle is our best, and maybe only, hope for an upgrade on the LHD position.**
 
** I have no idea if that is true.


I think our best shot for that comes from Jake McCabe.
Just because he's in the NHL now doesn't mean he can't keep getting better.

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Posted 01 September 2016 - 09:10 AM

Long term this is mostly true, but that doesn't make him a top NHL prospect or even a likely top-4 Dman.

I think my biggest issue is when the "He would have gotten a taste of action out of camp if not for the injury" becomes "He would've made the team without the injury!" Two things separated by a giant chasm are too often being used interchangeably.

Yup. When you (fans in general) start viewing preseason as just like the regular season you run into trouble. Guhle was skating good and making good passes but when real life NHL'ers played against him they closed down space faster than he could handle and could skate just as good as he could. I like Guhle a lot but he is probably 2 years away from NHL action. 



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Posted 10 September 2016 - 10:28 AM

Asplund with three assists today and Kris Baker gave the impression he absolutely dominated the ice.

I'm really excited about this kid, so far.

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 10:54 AM

Asplund with three assists today and Kris Baker gave the impression he absolutely dominated the ice.

I'm really excited about this kid, so far.

 

Me too. It's early, but it's looking like a brilliant trade-up, thus far.

 

It was part of the Kulikov deal, no?



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Posted 10 September 2016 - 10:55 AM

Me too. It's early, but it's looking like a brilliant trade-up, thus far.

It was part of the Kulikov deal, no?


Indeed it was, so we've got two swings at looking brilliant there.

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 04:50 PM

Indeed it was, so we've got two swings at looking brilliant there.


If both Kulikov turns out to be a legit top pair Dman and Asplund (my phone corrected this to Assplunder initially...dead serious) becomes even a 3rd line NHLer, this trade is O'Reilly 2.0.

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 07:15 PM

Asplund with three assists today and Kris Baker gave the impression he absolutely dominated the ice.

I'm really excited about this kid, so far.

Excuse my ignorance, but three assists in what game? Thanks. 



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Posted 10 September 2016 - 07:55 PM

Excuse my ignorance, but three assists in what game? Thanks. 

Farjestad over Krakow in Sweden. Their season is underway.



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Posted 10 September 2016 - 08:04 PM

Farjestad over Krakow in Sweden. Their season is underway.

Thanks, Hoss. 



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Posted 10 September 2016 - 08:14 PM

If both Kulikov turns out to be a legit top pair Dman and Asplund (my phone corrected this to Assplunder initially...dead serious) becomes even a 3rd line NHLer, this trade is O'Reilly 2.0.


Just what websites are you regularly checking to allow your phone to know you so well? :P

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Posted 10 September 2016 - 10:34 PM

Just what websites are you regularly checking to allow your phone to know you so well? :P

Outstanding !



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Posted 11 September 2016 - 09:49 AM

Just what websites are you regularly checking to allow your phone to know you so well? :P


Curous type, eh? Check your PMs :w00t:

Or... Maybe don't. Yea don't do that.

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 11:32 AM

I was thinking about our prospect pool and how many prospects do we really have that have top 3 line forwards, top 4 D or starting goalie potential.

Goal: I see only Ullmark and Peterson
D: Guhle, Borgen, Nelson and Fitzgerald
Center: Asplund, Estephan, and Cornel (the Sabres list him at Center on the training camp roster)
RW: Bailey, Fasching, Baptiste, and PU
LW: Nylander and maybe Carrier

I'm also curious to see if late rounders like Glotov, Hagel and Olofsson make an impact. From what i've read each has some high end skills, but fell in their drafts because of size or speed or some other factor.

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 04:51 PM

I was thinking about our prospect pool and how many prospects do we really have that have top 3 line forwards, top 4 D or starting goalie potential.

Goal: I see only Ullmark and Peterson
D: Guhle, Borgen, Nelson and Fitzgerald
Center: Asplund, Estephan, and Cornel (the Sabres list him at Center on the training camp roster)
RW: Bailey, Fasching, Baptiste, and PU
LW: Nylander and maybe Carrier

I'm also curious to see if late rounders like Glotov, Hagel and Olofsson make an impact. From what i've read each has some high end skills, but fell in their drafts because of size or speed or some other factor.

I'm wondering what you see in Baptiste that earns him a potential top 3 line and what is lacking in Carrier as a maybe top 3. I've seen my fare share of Baptiste and can't see him even playing in the nhl. A call up maybe someday. I believe Carrier could be productive at that level but that's even a maybe. If I were back on the pond picking from a group I'd pick Carrier every time.

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 07:14 PM

Carrier has never displayed the high offensive upside Baptiste displayed in Juniors. Both are excellent defensive forwards, but the offense imho gives Baptiste the edge. Both guys scored 13 goals last year, but it was Nick's first pro season vs Carrier's second.

However, one thing in Carrier's favor is the organizational depth chart. Baptiste is competing with Bailey and Fasching for a shot in Buffalo. Bailey's 20 goals and 45 points last season gives him the lead heading into the season.

However, Carrier's only LW competition is Nylander and he is much higher on the food chain. Carrier could arguably be Foligno's replacement someday, but I see him more of a 4th line energy guy and pker.

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 07:54 PM

I agree with your assessment of Carrier. I actually think he plays Foligno's role much more effectively. I don't agree on Baptiste though. He seemed weak to me last year. I seem to remember him being a healthy scratch quite a few times. Carriers +14 vs Baptiste's -3 seems in line with how they looked to me on ice. I'll be interested to see how he does in the A this year. We both agree that Fasching and Bailey have the better shot. I've been getting all giddy thinking about all that live hockey. Are you close enough for Amerks hockey?

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 09:37 PM

If you're going to talk about goalie prospects you have to include Cliff Pu ... https://twitter.com/...913057810255872



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Posted 11 September 2016 - 09:57 PM

I agree with your assessment of Carrier. I actually think he plays Foligno's role much more effectively. I don't agree on Baptiste though. He seemed weak to me last year. I seem to remember him being a healthy scratch quite a few times. Carriers +14 vs Baptiste's -3 seems in line with how they looked to me on ice. I'll be interested to see how he does in the A this year. We both agree that Fasching and Bailey have the better shot. I've been getting all giddy thinking about all that live hockey. Are you close enough for Amerks hockey?

I live in the Atlanta.  I follow the Amerks through video and the occasional live broadcast on the NHL Network.  I also have the Center Ice to watch my beloved Sabres.  One of the nice thing about my cable package is that I get a ton of college hockey through various fox affiliates and the bigten network.  I try to record as many of the prospect college games as possible.  

 

Also before you judge Baptiste to harshly remember he is a year behind Carrier on the development curve.  Carrier made huge strides in scoring and 2 way play last year.  I suspect Baptiste will make much the same jump, especially if Bailey makes the Sabres (which I think he will).

 

One other note.  The Amerks are over flowing with forwards for this coming season.  Sabres prospects Nylander, Carrier, Fasching, Bapiste, Cornel, Karabacek, Dupuy, Rodrigues, Catenacci, Kea and maybe Bailey, will be vying for time with vets COR, Grant, Schneider and AHL signees Lane and Muzito.  That's 16 guys right now, with 8 of the 16 with at least some NHL experience.  Should make for a very interesting year down on the farm.   


Edited by yse325, 11 September 2016 - 10:36 PM.


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Posted 11 September 2016 - 10:05 PM

This won't be the first year in recent memory where the Amerks appeared to be loaded but ended up fizzling on the ice.

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Posted 11 September 2016 - 10:37 PM

This won't be the first year in recent memory where the Amerks appeared to be loaded but ended up fizzling on the ice.

 

Since when did you join the Optimist Club?