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#1 Eleven

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 03:30 PM

So I was just thinking, since Buffalo's last championship in a major sport (AFL 1964 and don't tell me AFL doesn't count because I'll cry if you do), what other US cities have had complete droughts?  Here's the list I came up with without doing research:

Cleveland (also 1964)
San Diego (never)
Nashville (never--but a short time frame)
Sacramento (never--but only one sport)
Columbus (never--but a short time frame and only one sport)
Charlotte

I thought about Milwaukee, but the Bucks actually have one.  

I think that's it.  Is it really that sad?  Please, Sabres, do something about this!

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 04:18 PM

This is why every Buffalo fan should follow the misery loves company doctrine of rooting for other teams. Never, ever root for a team to win their first championship before Buffalo does.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 04:23 PM

Does Orlando have one and do they count?

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 04:30 PM

Vancouver, Charlotte, Nashville, Jacksonville, Memphis, OKC, Orlando, Sacramento, San Jose San Diego and Buffalo are the cities that have at least one team in the four major leagues (NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB) and don't have a championship. I only counted championships for the leagues under their current title/form.

Buffalo, Nashville and San Diego are the only cities that have more than one team in those sports with no championships.

Edited by Tankalicious, 19 July 2014 - 05:09 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 04:35 PM

Vancouver?

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 04:38 PM

I really hope the Sabres win before the Canucks

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 05:10 PM

View Postrakish, on 19 July 2014 - 04:35 PM, said:

Vancouver?

Mhm. Just realized the list was US-only.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 05:28 PM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 19 July 2014 - 04:18 PM, said:

This is why every Buffalo fan should follow the misery loves company doctrine of rooting for other teams. Never, ever root for a team to win their first championship before Buffalo does.
Ah the sal Capaccio protocol.  Maybe it's because I'm from rochester but I really don't care who wins what championship if it isn't my team (minus a couple of rivals).

Edited by inkman, 19 July 2014 - 05:29 PM.


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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:21 PM

View PostEleven, on 19 July 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

So I was just thinking, since Buffalo's last championship in a major sport (AFL 1964 and don't tell me AFL doesn't count because I'll cry if you do), what other US cities have had complete droughts?  Here's the list I came up with without doing research:

Cleveland (also 1964)
San Diego (never)
Nashville (never--but a short time frame)
Sacramento (never--but only one sport)
Columbus (never--but a short time frame and only one sport)
Charlotte

I thought about Milwaukee, but the Bucks actually have one.  

I think that's it.  Is it really that sad?  Please, Sabres, do something about this!

Take Columbus off the list. #1 sport is OSU football, #2 is MLS soccer, and they have championships in both.

MLS may not be a major sport in the US as a whole, but it's huge to the Colombians.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:28 PM

View PostEleven, on 19 July 2014 - 03:30 PM, said:

So I was just thinking, since Buffalo's last championship in a major sport (AFL 1964 and don't tell me AFL doesn't count because I'll cry if you do), what other US cities have had complete droughts?  Here's the list I came up with without doing research:

Cleveland (also 1964)
San Diego (never)
Nashville (never--but a short time frame)
Sacramento (never--but only one sport)
Columbus (never--but a short time frame and only one sport)
Charlotte

I thought about Milwaukee, but the Bucks actually have one.  

I think that's it.  Is it really that sad?  Please, Sabres, do something about this!

Not for nothing, but we also won the AFL Championship in '65. So we haven't quite suffered as long as Cleveland.

GO SABRES!!!

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:51 PM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 19 July 2014 - 06:21 PM, said:

Take Columbus off the list. #1 sport is OSU football, #2 is MLS soccer, and they have championships in both.

MLS may not be a major sport in the US as a whole, but it's huge to the Colombians.

No.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 06:55 PM

View PostEleven, on 19 July 2014 - 06:51 PM, said:



No.

You don't count college ball? It's bigger than Hockey.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:06 PM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 19 July 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:



You don't count college ball? It's bigger than Hockey.

And the players make similar money.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:17 PM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 19 July 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:



You don't count college ball? It's bigger than Hockey.

I don't count OSU because OSU sucks.

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:17 PM

View PostTankalicious, on 19 July 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:



And the players make similar money.

Hay-oh!!!

:)

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Posted 19 July 2014 - 07:25 PM

View PostTankalicious, on 19 July 2014 - 07:06 PM, said:



And the players make similar money.
Beautiful

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 01:35 AM

Technically, San Diego could be worse than Buffalo because our NFL teams are equivalent but their baseball team was established one year earlier than the Sabres.

View PostTankalicious, on 19 July 2014 - 04:30 PM, said:

Vancouver, Charlotte, Nashville, Jacksonville, Memphis, OKC, Orlando, Sacramento, San Jose San Diego and Buffalo are the cities that have at least one team in the four major leagues (NFL, NHL, NBA and MLB) and don't have a championship. I only counted championships for the leagues under their current title/form.

Buffalo, Nashville and San Diego are the only cities that have more than one team in those sports with no championships.

Salt Lake City.

Edited by JJFIVEOH, 20 July 2014 - 02:11 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 05:41 AM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 19 July 2014 - 06:55 PM, said:

You don't count college ball? It's bigger than Hockey.

I'm sticking to pro sports.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 06:50 AM

View Postinkman, on 19 July 2014 - 05:28 PM, said:


Ah the sal Capaccio protocol.  Maybe it's because I'm from rochester but I really don't care who wins what championship if it isn't my team (minus a couple of rivals).
To me the only thing worse than a cup-less lifetime as I enter my 70's would be if every other team had at least one to their credit while the Sabres were still cup-less. Who is Sal Cappacio?

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:52 AM

50 Years sad, 1964, the year I was born, the last year of the babyboomers... not sure what all that means,  but I really hope this group of Sabres being put together accomplishes something great... bringing the cup to Buffalo.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:21 AM

View PostEleven, on 20 July 2014 - 05:41 AM, said:

I'm sticking to pro sports.

I understand. I see what you're doing. I'm just trying to make you feel worse about sports-life. :P

If you're measuring relative misery, Columbus won't give two hoots if the Blue Jackets win and the Buckeyes don't.

Also the Crew had average attendance of 16,080 last year (and they are in the middle of a rebuild). The Blue Jackets got just 14,658 (during their best season ever).

The Columbians are much less miserable than their Hockey Team would indicate.

Edited by Glass Case Of Emotion, 20 July 2014 - 08:22 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 08:42 AM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 20 July 2014 - 08:21 AM, said:

I understand. I see what you're doing. I'm just trying to make you feel worse about sports-life. :P

If you're measuring relative misery, Columbus won't give two hoots if the Blue Jackets win and the Buckeyes don't.

Also the Crew had average attendance of 16,080 last year (and they are in the middle of a rebuild). The Blue Jackets got just 14,658 (during their best season ever).

The Columbians are much less miserable than their Hockey Team would indicate.

If we're counting cities that care more about college sports than pro sports, a number of cities come off of Tank's final list.  

I'm not counting MLS.  Not because it doesn't have fans; it does.  But the level of competition is so poor.  It's barely watchable.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:12 AM

What is this thread?

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:15 AM

View PostPASabreFan, on 20 July 2014 - 09:12 AM, said:

What is this thread?

Distilled Essence of Offseason.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:28 AM

View PostEleven, on 20 July 2014 - 09:15 AM, said:

Distilled Essence of Offseason.

Oh, OK, black gym socks.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 09:49 AM

View PostPASabreFan, on 20 July 2014 - 09:28 AM, said:

Oh, OK, black gym socks.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:19 AM

I've been a fan of the Bills since the late 60's and the Sabres since their beginning.  I've stated many times over the years that I just want to witness either one win a championship.   As I hit my mid 50's, I'd prefer to see the Sabres hoist the Cup over the Bills winning a SB, but I am starting to get the feeling that neither is going to happen in my lifetime(or at least a point in my life where I can enjoy/partake in the celebration).  

I really hope one of them proves me wrong.  :cry:

Edited by LabattBlue, 20 July 2014 - 10:27 AM.


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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:24 AM

View PostLabattBlue, on 20 July 2014 - 10:19 AM, said:

I've been a fan of the Bills since the late 60's and the Sabres since their beginning.  I've stated many times over the years that I just want to witness either one win a championship.   As I hit my mid 50's, I'd prefer to see the Sabres hoist the Cup over the Bills winning a SB, but I am starting to get the feeling it's just neither is going to happen in my lifetime(or at least a point in my life where I can enjoy/partake in the celebration).  

I really hope one of them proves me wrong.  :cry:

I'm 22 and feel the same way...

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:52 AM

Hey now, the San Diego Sockers have won a bunch of championships...

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 11:54 AM

Clearly you don't remember the Buffalo Stampede RHI Murphy Cup victory at the Aud in 94...I was there, and I got on ESPN =D

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:53 PM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 20 July 2014 - 06:50 AM, said:

To me the only thing worse than a cup-less lifetime as I enter my 70's would be if every other team had at least one to their credit while the Sabres were still cup-less. Who is Sal Cappacio?
I just don't understand this mentality.  It's just petty.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:56 PM

View Postinkman, on 20 July 2014 - 07:53 PM, said:


I just don't understand this mentality.  It's just petty.

Absolutely. Sports fandom is petty.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:59 PM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 20 July 2014 - 07:56 PM, said:

Absolutely. Sports fandom is petty.

It sure is.  It's why I don't even want to talk to someone if the person is from Miami or Philadelphia.  Or Boston, lately, but I have enough other reasons to just think Boston is ######.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 07:59 PM

I wouldn't call it petty, but I'm near where Inkman is at. Sports has always been something that, in the grand scheme, can only ever add value. Sure, I get a bit down for maybe 24 hours if something majorly disappointing happens but I move on. I do get some extra positive vibes when things are going well in my sports world.

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Posted 20 July 2014 - 10:45 PM

Buffalo bandits...... That is all

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 08:39 AM

Another Stanley Cup / Super Bowl/ World Series parade in Pittsburgh, Boston or New York?  meh,,,. it used to matter to me, but zero fukcs given these days.

A Stanley Cup parade in places like Vancouver or St. Louis with long suffering fan bases like ours?  I wouldn't like to see it, but at least I can relate to those fans on a certain level.

A cup parade in somewhere Columbus, Nashville or San Jose with their still wet behind the ears fan bases?  No f-ing way man!  Call it petty sports fan douchebaggery, but following sports is an escape from real life where petty douchebaggery is not only allowed, but encouraged.  

Now should the Sabres win even one Cup, this all changes for me and I'll be actively rooting for teams like Vancouver and St. Louis to get their first if the Sabres are out of contention.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 11:27 AM

I think.. if you wanted to feel worse about things you should list the number of chances each city has had at winning a title.

Like you referenced, some cities have only had 20 or so shots whereas Buffalo would have had many more than that.  Of course 0 is 0 but not having won in 69 attempts and not having won in 20 attempts makes things look so much worse! :)

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 11:36 AM

One could also point out the difference in weather patterns between a city like Buffalo and a city like San Diego.

Or, one could point out the general economic performance of a city like Buffalo vs. a city like Salt Lake City.



Thank god for Cleveland.

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 11:38 AM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 21 July 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

One could also point out the difference in weather patterns between a city like Buffalo and a city like San Diego.

Or, one could point out the general economic performance of a city like Buffalo vs. a city like Salt Lake City.



Thank god for Cleveland.

In that case, may as well change the thread title to "Things that are depressing."

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Posted 21 July 2014 - 11:44 AM

I feel like a giant equation is building in this thread to decide the most miserable sports cities.

If we could find a way to put a different value on different professional sports and the times each sport has existed professionally while factoring in maybe the weather then you could probably piece together something magical.