Jump to content


World Cup 2014

Off Topic Soccer Futbal Brazil

  • This topic is locked This topic is locked
737 replies to this topic

#1 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:33 AM

So, the World Cup starts in 25 days.

This may be a bit early to start the discussion, but I have a bit of time on my hands right now.

Teams are starting to name their players, with final rosters to be announced in about two weeks.  There have been a few surprises.

Who will win?

Will Spain once again return to glory?  If so, it would mean Spain will hold Euro, WC, Euro, WC trophies in a row ... unprecedented.

Will CR7, or Messi, finally lead their countries to a championship on the worlds biggest stage?

Will Brazil take the host advantage to the championship?

Will Brazil be ready to host this event by the first kick off?

For me ... my heart says BiH will win and Džeko will score the most goals.  My head says probably Brazil.

A link to the official FIFA WC 2014 web site ...

http://www.fifa.com/worldcup/

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 23 May 2014 - 09:50 AM.


#2 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:03 AM

Dude.  Your choices are Brazil, Germany, Spain, and B/H?  Is that a joke?

#3 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:17 AM

View PostEleven, on 18 May 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

Dude.  Your choices are Brazil, Germany, Spain, and B/H?  Is that a joke?

Dude.  Actually, I originally had Span as one of the choices.  So, thanks for the heads up and I changed that.

No joke ... BiH will win.

See "other" choice in the poll questions.

#4 qwksndmonster

qwksndmonster

    Livve Neilo

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,320 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Horseheads

Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:28 AM

I refuse to vote until I can vote for USA.

The OBVIOUS favorites.

#5 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:39 AM

View Postqwksndmonster, on 18 May 2014 - 11:28 AM, said:

I refuse to vote until I can vote for USA.

The OBVIOUS favorites.

Cheeky qwk,

Please see my reply to Cheeky 11 concerning the "other" category in the poll.






:nana:

#6 ChileanSeaBass

ChileanSeaBass

    Third Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,102 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:charlotte

Posted 18 May 2014 - 12:55 PM

Chi-Chi-Chi Le-Le-Le! CHILE!

#7 Tolstoy

Tolstoy

    Prospect

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 7 posts

Posted 18 May 2014 - 03:17 PM

My own amateur opinion:

There will be tremendous pressure on Brazil: anything less than world cup champions will be seen as a failure.  I don't think the team has the leadership, character, and composure to deal with that pressure, so I predict a loss in the quarterfinals or semifinals.  I am probably wrong, but that is my hunch.

Spain will be tough, but I think their time has passed.  Their core is four years older, with some (Pujols) retired.  I think they too will lose in the quarters or semifinals.

Germany will be very tough.  They are my pick to win it all.  They have an excellent coach, and a veteran core.  However, they do have injury questions (Lahm, Sweinsteiger, etc.).  If the injuries are an issue, it could prevent them from even advancing out of the group stage.  They are in a very tough group.

My dark horse team?  France.  They went home with their tails between their legs in 2010.  They are talented and hungry.

Second dark horse?  Argentina.  They are talented and due.

So, my choices: #1 Germany, #2 France, #3 Argentina, #4 Brazil

#8 qwksndmonster

qwksndmonster

    Livve Neilo

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,320 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Horseheads

Posted 18 May 2014 - 03:20 PM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 18 May 2014 - 11:39 AM, said:

Cheeky qwk,

Please see my reply to Cheeky 11 concerning the "other" category in the poll.






:nana:
I'll start my own world cup thread! With blackjack! and hookers!

#9 Glass Case Of Emotion

Glass Case Of Emotion

    Woah-Oh! We're half way there...

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,352 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rochester/Finger Lakes

Posted 23 May 2014 - 09:57 AM

View PostEleven, on 18 May 2014 - 11:03 AM, said:

Dude.  Your choices are Brazil, Germany, Spain, and B/H?  Is that a joke?

What choice are you talking about?

Dude, you're losing it.

:P

#10 WildCard

WildCard

    I haven't slept for 10 days, because that would be too much.

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,316 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 23 May 2014 - 06:01 PM

Nice, glad you started this thread NS. :thumbsup:

Well, USA drew the Pool of Death this year, so there's likely no hope for them. Plus, With Jergen leaving Donovan off the roster for, what I've heard is personal issues with him, the USA will be missing their best leader, their most timely goal scorer, all on the biggest stage. Not a great combination :doh:

My family history is almost entirely made up of German decent, so I always root for them as a viable option to win. I like their odds this year, as does everyone else it looks like.

#11 DR HOLLIDAY

DR HOLLIDAY

    Born in 1970- Just like the Sabres

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,679 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southern Ontario

Posted 24 May 2014 - 06:23 AM

Brazil, Germany, Italy and Spain.

Dark Horse: Belgium

#12 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 24 May 2014 - 08:45 AM

View PostDR HOLLIDAY, on 24 May 2014 - 06:23 AM, said:

Brazil, Germany, Italy and Spain.

Dark Horse: Belgium

Those are my top four, too, but my dark horse is Argentina.  (If Belgium gets too close, Germany will just invade it again.)

#13 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 24 May 2014 - 09:13 AM

View PostEleven, on 24 May 2014 - 08:45 AM, said:

Those are my top four, too, but my dark horse is Argentina.  (If Belgium gets too close, Germany will just invade it again.)

Now, was that so difficult?




:nana:

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 24 May 2014 - 09:13 AM.


#14 wjag

wjag

    Buffalo Sports -- Dysfunction Junction

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,139 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Just below the Mason-Dixon Line

Posted 24 May 2014 - 06:58 PM

Surprised the Landon Donovan snub isn't getting some traction on here.  Right decision?

#15 Moulson26

Moulson26

    Blood and Guts

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,620 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rochester, NY

Posted 25 May 2014 - 12:05 AM

Brazil vs. Argentina final.

#16 Heimdall

Heimdall

    Third Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,481 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brussels, Belgium

Posted 25 May 2014 - 12:09 AM

View PostTolstoy, on 18 May 2014 - 03:17 PM, said:

My own amateur opinion:

There will be tremendous pressure on Brazil: anything less than world cup champions will be seen as a failure.  I don't think the team has the leadership, character, and composure to deal with that pressure, so I predict a loss in the quarterfinals or semifinals.  I am probably wrong, but that is my hunch.

Spain will be tough, but I think their time has passed.  Their core is four years older, with some (Pujols) retired.  I think they too will lose in the quarters or semifinals.

Germany will be very tough.  They are my pick to win it all.  They have an excellent coach, and a veteran core.  However, they do have injury questions (Lahm, Sweinsteiger, etc.).  If the injuries are an issue, it could prevent them from even advancing out of the group stage.  They are in a very tough group.

My dark horse team?  France.  They went home with their tails between their legs in 2010.  They are talented and hungry.

Second dark horse?  Argentina.  They are talented and due.

So, my choices: #1 Germany, #2 France, #3 Argentina, #4 Brazil


Germany has alot of injuries, Neuer one of the best goalies in the world won't make it, no Mario gomez who has been their go to man in the attack for several years.
Also no Schweinsteiger and possibly without their best defenseman lahm. Ghana and Portugal might upset them in the group stages , and if they do make it Russia or Belgium might await them.

As for France there are teams with alot more talent and they are just lazy , they have no spirit to play for their country.  

My top 3 is Spain, Brazil, Argentina ( messi is not in shape but team will do well regardless).
After that Germany, Russia, Ghana,Colombia, ( with falcao, currently still recovering from knee injury) and Portugal our my outsiders.

Dark horse is Ghana  for me, clearly the best african team.

As for Belgium, we have good players, but the friendlies against Japan and Colombia dented my confidence, they don't have any experience on World cup stage.  
And with Christian Benteke out, allthough he isn't an attacker that is known for his goal scoring, but allows our midfield to do so, I think we'll have a rough time scoring goals.

Edited by Heimdall, 25 May 2014 - 12:11 AM.


#17 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 25 May 2014 - 09:53 AM

View Postwjag, on 24 May 2014 - 06:58 PM, said:

Surprised the Landon Donovan snub isn't getting some traction on here.  Right decision?

Wrong decision.  There was a little discussion about it in the other soccer thread.

#18 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 25 May 2014 - 10:31 AM

View Postwjag, on 24 May 2014 - 06:58 PM, said:

Surprised the Landon Donovan snub isn't getting some traction on here.  Right decision?

See 11's post.  I agree with him.

Wrong move.

The only thing I can think of is that it's a move to prevent some embarrassment for Landon in the twilight of his International career.  It is very unlikely that the US will escape the Group of Death.

#19 mjd1001

mjd1001

    Prospect

  • Members
  • Pip
  • 68 posts

Posted 25 May 2014 - 11:40 AM

Ok, I'm one of those people find soccer very boring, but, being the world cup, I'll watch it again.  I don't have my hopes up, but maybe I'll find it enjoyable?  The problem is, I'm not a fan that is going to get really into it. I will be a casual viewer....I think soccer as a sport lends itself better to the more hard-core fan.

#20 wjag

wjag

    Buffalo Sports -- Dysfunction Junction

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 13,139 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Just below the Mason-Dixon Line

Posted 25 May 2014 - 12:34 PM

View Postmjd1001, on 25 May 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

Ok, I'm one of those people find soccer very boring, but, being the world cup, I'll watch it again.  I don't have my hopes up, but maybe I'll find it enjoyable?  The problem is, I'm not a fan that is going to get really into it. I will be a casual viewer....I think soccer as a sport lends itself better to the more hard-core fan.

I watch it during the big events,  but for the life of me I can't see why fans are so fervent about it.  It's like watching golf with loud crowds.

#21 qwksndmonster

qwksndmonster

    Livve Neilo

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 3,320 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Horseheads

Posted 25 May 2014 - 02:11 PM

No LD is idiotic. We had no chance before, now we have even less of a chance.

#22 Heimdall

Heimdall

    Third Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,481 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brussels, Belgium

Posted 26 May 2014 - 02:22 AM

View Postmjd1001, on 25 May 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

Ok, I'm one of those people find soccer very boring, but, being the world cup, I'll watch it again.  I don't have my hopes up, but maybe I'll find it enjoyable?  The problem is, I'm not a fan that is going to get really into it. I will be a casual viewer....I think soccer as a sport lends itself better to the more hard-core fan.

I feel the same about the nfl, i just fall asleep during any game i tried watching.

#23 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 26 May 2014 - 09:13 AM

View PostHeimdall, on 26 May 2014 - 02:22 AM, said:

I feel the same about the nfl, i just fall asleep during any game i tried watching.

I can't imagine finding NFL football even mildly interesting if you didn't grow up with it.

#24 thanes16

thanes16

    Third Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,976 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 26 May 2014 - 10:44 AM

View PostEleven, on 26 May 2014 - 09:13 AM, said:

I can't imagine finding NFL football even mildly interesting if you didn't grow up with it.

The NFL isn't as popular in the south as it is in the north. When it comes to college football, there is a complete 180.

#25 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 26 May 2014 - 11:17 AM

View Postthanes16, on 26 May 2014 - 10:44 AM, said:

The NFL isn't as popular in the south as it is in the north. When it comes to college football, there is a complete 180.

I should have just said "American football" or "gridiron football" in my post; I think it's the same thing to non-Americans.

I'm beginning to find college football boring.  It now has nearly as many stoppages as the pro game, it has controversy everywhere, there are usually only one or two nationally televised games each weekend that are interesting, etc.

#26 DR HOLLIDAY

DR HOLLIDAY

    Born in 1970- Just like the Sabres

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,679 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southern Ontario

Posted 26 May 2014 - 08:22 PM

View PostHeimdall, on 25 May 2014 - 12:09 AM, said:

Germany has alot of injuries, Neuer one of the best goalies in the world won't make it, no Mario gomez who has been their go to man in the attack for several years.
Also no Schweinsteiger and possibly without their best defenseman lahm.    

Germany is loaded at keeper, and Neuer is ready to go, Lahm is good to go and Schweiny is in training……..Gomez is a loss but this could lead to interesting talent replacing in a different manner…….Going with Goetze or Ozil as a false 9 with Klose coming in as a super sub……..Kevin Volland has also been lining up at striker and he is a young player coming off a great season……..Podolski might also fill the roll of ST/false 9 and Reus playing LW

#27 Heimdall

Heimdall

    Third Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,481 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brussels, Belgium

Posted 27 May 2014 - 06:55 AM

Quote

Roman Weidenfeller is ready to be Germany's No1 at the FIFA World Cup™ this summer if Manuel Neuer fails to recover from a shoulder injury. Doubts persist about Neuer's fitness after he joined the national team with his arm in a sling last week. It is not yet known when or if the Bayern Munich custodian will be able to start training.

Same goes for lahm and schweinsteiger, injured and clearly not ready to go :D

#28 DR HOLLIDAY

DR HOLLIDAY

    Born in 1970- Just like the Sabres

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,679 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southern Ontario

Posted 28 May 2014 - 07:02 PM

View PostHeimdall, on 27 May 2014 - 06:55 AM, said:

Same goes for lahm and schweinsteiger, injured and clearly not ready to go :D


Quite about of time before the WC starts……I am pretty sure they will all be playing.

#29 Heimdall

Heimdall

    Third Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPip
  • 1,481 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Brussels, Belgium

Posted 29 May 2014 - 02:45 AM

Don't think so, Neuer would surpise me, all i hear is he won't make it, Lahm and schweinsteiger are possible though.

#30 X. Benedict

X. Benedict

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,999 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 29 May 2014 - 04:20 AM

View PostEleven, on 26 May 2014 - 11:17 AM, said:

I should have just said "American football" or "gridiron football" in my post; I think it's the same thing to non-Americans.

I'm beginning to find college football boring.  It now has nearly as many stoppages as the pro game, it has controversy everywhere, there are usually only one or two nationally televised games each weekend that are interesting, etc.

Rugby is a better game. (I'm not saying better athletes, just a better game).

#31 DR HOLLIDAY

DR HOLLIDAY

    Born in 1970- Just like the Sabres

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 2,679 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Southern Ontario

Posted 29 May 2014 - 05:08 PM

View PostHeimdall, on 29 May 2014 - 02:45 AM, said:

Don't think so, Neuer would surpise me, all i hear is he won't make it, Lahm and schweinsteiger are possible though.

All of them back with the team practising…….Neuer was running and keeping in shape……Arm unwrapped…….Still has over 2 weeks before their first game……Just watched a video of them back at work.

#32 Hank

Hank

    Fourth Liner

  • Members
  • PipPipPip
  • 507 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Fort Campbell, KY

Posted 31 May 2014 - 12:06 PM

Fwiw, the US is ranked 14th in the world, Ghana is ranked 38th.

If Klinsman feels the team is better off without Donovan due to chemistry or whatever reasons he has I trust his judgement. His job is not to field the best 23 players, but the 23 players he feels gives them the best chance to win based on his vision and the direction he wants to take the team.

This team has talent. Bradley may not be top ten in the world, but there are very few line-ups he wouldn't be able to crack. Same with Dempsey. Howard is solid in goal. Cameron is a damn good defender. Altidore can score if he's on his game. Jones is very under rated due to injuries and most peoples lack of knowledge/interest in the German league.

This team has talent, just not depth.

Maybe my nationalistic pride is getting the better of me, but I see them beating Ghana 2 nil, scoreless draw with Portugal, losing to Germany 1 nil and advancing on tie breaker. Beating Russia in the round of 16 and losing to Argentina in the round of eight.

USA! USA! USA!

#33 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 07 June 2014 - 12:23 PM

Just a few more sleeps until it all starts up.

Many star players are out, or questionable.

And now we know the answer to the most important question, at least for some teams ...

http://www.cbc.ca/sp...tions-1.2667830

#34 X. Benedict

X. Benedict

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 10,999 posts
  • Gender:Male

Posted 07 June 2014 - 01:35 PM

View PostHank, on 31 May 2014 - 12:06 PM, said:

Fwiw, the US is ranked 14th in the world, Ghana is ranked 38th.

If Klinsman feels the team is better off without Donovan due to chemistry or whatever reasons he has I trust his judgement. His job is not to field the best 23 players, but the 23 players he feels gives them the best chance to win based on his vision and the direction he wants to take the team.

This team has talent. Bradley may not be top ten in the world, but there are very few line-ups he wouldn't be able to crack. Same with Dempsey. Howard is solid in goal. Cameron is a damn good defender. Altidore can score if he's on his game. Jones is very under rated due to injuries and most peoples lack of knowledge/interest in the German league.

This team has talent, just not depth.

Maybe my nationalistic pride is getting the better of me, but I see them beating Ghana 2 nil, scoreless draw with Portugal, losing to Germany 1 nil and advancing on tie breaker. Beating Russia in the round of 16 and losing to Argentina in the round of eight.

USA! USA! USA!
I'd be happy with that.

#35 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 07 June 2014 - 09:09 PM

View PostX. Benedict, on 07 June 2014 - 01:35 PM, said:

I'd be happy with that.

I'd take it in a heartbeat.

I give them the same odds of reaching the round of 8 as I give the Sabres next season.

#36 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:08 PM

Maybe, just maybe, now that corporate money is involved:  http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/27751265

#37 Glass Case Of Emotion

Glass Case Of Emotion

    Woah-Oh! We're half way there...

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 5,352 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Rochester/Finger Lakes

Posted 08 June 2014 - 09:13 PM

View PostEleven, on 08 June 2014 - 09:08 PM, said:

Maybe, just maybe, now that corporate money is involved:  http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/27751265

This is the beauty of the Internet and Corporate Capitalism.

We all find out about these things, and it scares the pants off the CEO's of associated Corporations. It's so easy for a negative social media campaign to pop up, and it's every PR/Marketing Manager's nightmare.

#38 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 09 June 2014 - 09:59 AM

I'm not buying it.

IMO, the corporate sponsors don't care.

#39 Eleven

Eleven

    All Star

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPipPipPip
  • 17,534 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Buffalo

Posted 09 June 2014 - 11:36 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 June 2014 - 09:59 AM, said:

I'm not buying it.

IMO, the corporate sponsors don't care.

Four more sponsors have joined in:  http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/27751265

#40 Sabres Fan In NS

Sabres Fan In NS

    I'd rather be in Sarajevo or, Istanbul (not Constantinople)

  • Members
  • PipPipPipPipPip
  • 4,314 posts
  • Gender:Male
  • Location:Halifax, Nova Scotia, Canada

Posted 09 June 2014 - 01:40 PM

View PostEleven, on 09 June 2014 - 11:36 AM, said:

Four more sponsors have joined in:  http://www.bbc.com/s...otball/27751265

Let me know if they actually do anything, except verbally complain.

If you ask me the corporate sponsors are in on this FIFA corruption stuff.





Also tagged with one or more of these keywords: Off Topic, Soccer, Futbal, Brazil