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#1 Eleven

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 05:29 AM

Montreal hosts the Rangers in just a few hours.

Also, here's the bracket, so no one has to go looking for it:  http://bracketchalle...19506?locale=en

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 05:38 AM

I had the final 4 in the preseason, but never made a cup prediction.... still don't know who wins. Both series can easily go 7.

I'm rooting for the Rangers. They made it this far with their powerplay showing up for only 2 games. I'm guessing 4 OT games all ending 3-2.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 06:46 AM

View PostEleven, on 17 May 2014 - 05:29 AM, said:

Also, here's the bracket, so no one has to go looking for it:  http://bracketchalle...19506?locale=en

Damn, how'd I miss out on this.

I blame the friggin' CRA.

I have said it before and I'll say it again ... the cup winning confetti will be bleu, blanc et rouge.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 08:25 AM

The cup will end up in the western conference this year..... Both Montreal and NY have impressed but I don't think they can keep up with either LA or Chicago, only saving grace is if Montreal wins and the kings go 7 games again, then that's gonna be an awfully tires LA team

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 09:44 AM

Rangers over Montreal
Chicago over LA

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:09 AM

I'm the only one with LA winning the Cup. Wacky.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 10:11 AM

View PostLGR4GM, on 17 May 2014 - 09:44 AM, said:

Rangers over Montreal
Chicago over LA
Liger, I really don't mean to make fun of you, but your bracket is hooooorrible :P

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 11:14 AM

View PostArcsabresfan41, on 17 May 2014 - 10:11 AM, said:

Liger, I really don't mean to make fun of you, but your bracket is hooooorrible :P
Yea... it was pretty bad lol :sick:

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 11:45 AM

I've got NY and Chicago. 4/4 last round, time to keep the good times rollin'.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 11:49 AM

I had the Ducks beating Montreal in the final.  I also had the Blues beating Chicago :sick:

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:30 PM

PK Subban is now my favorite NHL defenseman. He is like Tyler Myers in his prime, only better...

View PostEleven, on 17 May 2014 - 05:29 AM, said:

Montreal hosts the Rangers in just a few hours.

Also, here's the bracket, so no one has to go looking for it:  http://bracketchalle...19506?locale=en
NFN but shouldn't this thread be entitled "conference finals thread", not "semifinals thread"? Just an observation. ..

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:35 PM

View PostMILFHUNTER#518, on 17 May 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

PK Subban is now my favorite NHL defenseman. He is like Tyler Myers in his prime, only better...

NFN but shouldn't this thread be entitled "conference finals thread", not "semifinals thread"? Just an observation. ..

I think Myers has yet to reach his prime.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:40 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 17 May 2014 - 01:35 PM, said:



I think Myers has yet to reach his prime.
I hope you are right...

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:40 PM

View PostMILFHUNTER#518, on 17 May 2014 - 01:30 PM, said:

PK Subban is now my favorite NHL defenseman. He is like Tyler Myers in his prime, only better...

NFN but shouldn't this thread be entitled "conference finals thread", not "semifinals thread"? Just an observation. ..

Subban is very dynamic and loads of fun to watch.

Good point on the thread title.

The linesmen blew the too many men call in favor of the Canadiens that led to the goal.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:43 PM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 17 May 2014 - 01:40 PM, said:



Subban is very dynamic and loads of fun to watch.

Good point on the thread title.

The linesmen blew the too many men call in favor of the Canadiens that led to the goal.
It will all even out in the end I am sure. It almost always does...

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:50 PM

Kreider just owned Price.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 01:52 PM

Bye bye Montreal, bye bye...

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 02:10 PM

View PostMILFHUNTER#518, on 17 May 2014 - 01:52 PM, said:

Bye bye Montreal, bye bye...

@reporterchris
Peter Budaj is in goal for the #habs. So there's that.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 02:20 PM

Scott Arniel's power play just burying Montreal.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 02:21 PM

The only thing MTL can do now that is positive is to get pissed and hope it carries over to game 2... I would think a good fight or two would be called for here

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 03:14 PM

Never believe game one.
This will be a long series IMO.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 03:17 PM

7:2 in Montreal, wow what a game.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 11:08 PM

I'm wholly on board with "semifinals," which, in addition to being old school, is correct.  "Conference finals" is a combination of empty, new-age hype and the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

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Posted 17 May 2014 - 11:53 PM

View Postnfreeman, on 17 May 2014 - 11:08 PM, said:

I'm wholly on board with "semifinals," which, in addition to being old school, is correct.  "Conference finals" is a combination of empty, new-age hype and the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

I third this. Motion carried.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 05:10 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 17 May 2014 - 11:08 PM, said:

I'm wholly on board with "semifinals," which, in addition to being old school, is correct.  "Conference finals" is a combination of empty, new-age hype and the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

Only problem with your thinking is that the NHL actually calls this round "Conference Finals" and awards Conference Championship Trophies to the winners in this round.

The NHL is anything but new age.

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 18 May 2014 - 05:11 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 07:34 AM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 18 May 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

Only problem with your thinking is that the NHL actually calls this round "Conference Finals" and awards Conference Championship Trophies to the winners in this round.

The NHL is anything but new age.

The trophies have been around for a long time, but the newspeak "conference finals" hasn't.  

It's the semifinals.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 08:19 AM

View PostEleven, on 18 May 2014 - 07:34 AM, said:

The trophies have been around for a long time, but the newspeak "conference finals" hasn't.  

It's the semifinals.

In the end it's semantics. Just pointing out the facts of what the NHL calls this round. Third round, Semifinals, or Conference Finals.....No big deal either way.

Next Round is the Fourth Round. :lol:

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 18 May 2014 - 08:24 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 09:46 AM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 18 May 2014 - 05:10 AM, said:

Only problem with your thinking is that the NHL actually calls this round "Conference Finals" and awards Conference Championship Trophies to the
winners in this round.

The NHL is anything but new age.

I think you just proved my point -- i.e. awarding trophies to teams that haven't won a tournament is the literal embodiment of the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

Having said that, I agree that who gives a crap.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:15 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 18 May 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:

I think you just proved my point -- i.e. awarding trophies to teams that haven't won a tournament is the literal embodiment of the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

Having said that, I agree that who gives a crap.

Literally it's an exaggeration because they would award a trophy to every team that makes the playoffs if the point you're trying to make were true.  That's hardly the case.

However, I do get your point and I don't like the awarding of trophies on the youth sports level just for participation.  It's one of the reasons IMO why younger people often feel so entitled in the absence of any real accomplishment.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:23 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 18 May 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:

I think you just proved my point -- i.e. awarding trophies to teams that haven't won a tournament is the literal embodiment of the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

Having said that, I agree that who gives a crap.
As much as I hate "let's give everyone a trophy", I don't think that's what this is.  Does anyone have a problem with 2nd place (i.e. conference) trophies -- or, for that matter, the existence of silver and bronze medals?  They still recognize achievement.  "Let's give everyone..." just recognizes participation, which is annoying.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:34 AM

Yes, yes. I want my children miserable. How else are they going to accomplish anything in life?

:wallbash:

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 10:39 AM

View PostSwampD, on 18 May 2014 - 10:34 AM, said:

Yes, yes. I want my children miserable. How else are they going to accomplish anything in life?

:wallbash:

It won't be the same for everyone, but I do think there's some value in knowing how it feels to fail.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:40 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 18 May 2014 - 10:39 AM, said:



It won't be the same for everyone, but I do think there's some value in knowing how it feels to fail.
You took the words right out of my mouth. The most successful people have failed many times in their life, and have thus learned what it takes to succeed from their experiences. Failure is real, and we are doing our kids a disservice by not exposing them to that reality at an early age

Edited by MILFHUNTER#518, 18 May 2014 - 11:41 AM.


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Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:41 AM

View PostRobviously, on 18 May 2014 - 10:23 AM, said:


As much as I hate "let's give everyone a trophy", I don't think that's what this is.  Does anyone have a problem with 2nd place (i.e. conference) trophies -- or, for that matter, the existence of silver and bronze medals?  They still recognize achievement.  "Let's give everyone..." just recognizes participation, which is annoying.

You hit the nail on the head. This isn't even kind of a "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy in play.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:43 AM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 18 May 2014 - 08:19 AM, said:



In the end it's semantics. Just pointing out the facts of what the NHL calls this round. Third round, Semifinals, or Conference Finals.....No big deal either way.

Next Round is the Fourth Round. :lol:
It is eleven's thread and he is gonna call it whatever he wants to ;)

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 11:51 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 18 May 2014 - 09:46 AM, said:

I think you just proved my point -- i.e. awarding trophies to teams that haven't won a tournament is the literal embodiment of the "let's give everyone a trophy" philosophy.

But they have.  The two conferences do not play each other in the playoffs (and barely do during the regular season) until the SC finals.  Instead, each conference has a three-round (conference quarterfinals, semifinals and finals) tournament to figure out who the best team in that conference is, and then they play each other in the SC finals to determine who the best team in the NHL is.  In this way, it's like the WHL, OHL and QMJHL, each having its own tournaments to figure out who the best team is in the individual league, and then each one gets a berth to determine who the best team in the CHL is.  Likewise, collegiate conferences have tournaments to determine who their best teams are, and then those teams go on to play in a tournament to figure out who the best NCAA team is.

In the NHL one teams gets two awards (SC and conference trophy), one gets one (the other conference trophy), and the rest get nothing.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 12:26 PM

View PostMILFHUNTER#518, on 18 May 2014 - 11:40 AM, said:

You took the words right out of my mouth. The most successful people have failed many times in their life, and have thus learned what it takes to succeed from their experiences. Failure is real, and we are doing our kids a disservice by not exposing them to that reality at an early age
Any kid that gets a participation award and thinks he won something, well, probably isn't going to succeed later anyway.

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 01:28 PM

View PostSwampD, on 18 May 2014 - 12:26 PM, said:

Any kid that gets a participation award and thinks he won something, well, probably isn't going to succeed later anyway.

If getting a participation trophy doesn't make kids feel like they won something, then why would not getting one make them miserable?

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 01:41 PM

This thread I kind of going off the rails, but I'll join in. I don't think participation awards are bad, at all. Telling a ten year old that they've failed and aren't good enough is ridiculous. They haven't even gotten to the point of competitive thinking yet, somehow, they're already failing at life. It's important to remind these kids that they're on the right track and trying. But we can sit here and claim that the old way of parenting and doing things is perfect while also complaining about the way the world has ended up. The two don't go together...

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Posted 18 May 2014 - 01:45 PM

View PostTankalicious, on 18 May 2014 - 01:41 PM, said:

This thread I kind of going off the rails, but I'll join in. I don't think participation awards are bad, at all. Telling a ten year old that they've failed and aren't good enough is ridiculous. They haven't even gotten to the point of competitive thinking yet, somehow, they're already failing at life. It's important to remind these kids that they're on the right track and trying. But we can sit here and claim that the old way of parenting and doing things is perfect while also complaining about the way the world has ended up. The two don't go together...

Not getting a trophy = failing at life? Talk about hyperbole. And no competitive thinking at 10? I always wanted to beat my friends at Tecmo Super Bowl, and I was like 6 when it was out.