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#1 DonInBuffalo

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:22 PM

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According to his girlfriend, James Patrick came home drunk with vomit on his clothes.  She noticed some "inappropriate" texts on his cell phone and he did enough damage to her wrestling the phone away that the cops showed up and arrested him.

Out of all the ex and current Sabres, Patrick might be the one person who I would never have guessed something like this would happen.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:23 PM

Weird ###### happens when you're drunk and covered with vomit.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:32 PM

Ugh. Sounds like a brown out. Never fun to deal with someone when they're in that condition. It's like Dr. Jekyll and Mr. Hyde. Too bad.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:37 PM

Not that it makes anything right, but what exactly is she doing going through his phone?

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 05:40 PM

View Postshrader, on 07 May 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:

Not that it makes anything right, but what exactly is she doing going through his phone?

Lookin' to be told twice!



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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:00 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 07 May 2014 - 05:23 PM, said:

Weird ###### happens when you're drunk and covered with vomit.

Don't I know it.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:04 PM

Is it strange that I went to college for the better part of 6 years and have never vomited on myself? I've vomited, no question about that. I've just never been to the point where I really don't care at all about my personal appearance and just yaked on myself.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:10 PM

Welcome BYU laureate!


Just kidding.  The only time I've ralphed on myself was when the only choice was either to do it on me or a random stranger, and I'm just not that kind of person.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 06:42 PM

View PostDonInBuffalo, on 07 May 2014 - 05:22 PM, said:

http://www.buffalone...dallas-20140507

According to his girlfriend, James Patrick came home drunk with vomit on his clothes.  She noticed some "inappropriate" texts on his cell phone and he did enough damage to her wrestling the phone away that the cops showed up and arrested him.

Out of all the ex and current Sabres, Patrick might be the one person who I would never have guessed something like this would happen.
Vaclav Varada, sure. Patrick? That's incomprehensible.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 07:56 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 07 May 2014 - 06:10 PM, said:

Welcome BYU laureate!


Just kidding.  The only time I've ralphed on myself was when the only choice was either to do it on me or a random stranger, and I'm just not that kind of person.

That made me laugh.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 08:11 PM

It was all downhill after EA Sports NHL 93.  James Patrick was a god in that game.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:38 PM

Who said 'brownout'? Spot on.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 09:49 PM

This is not a shocking development.

I just wish he would have done it to Darcy a few years ago like he wanted to....

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 10:46 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 07 May 2014 - 09:38 PM, said:

Who said 'brownout'? Spot on.

It was a term coined by me to describe a state of alcohol induced unconscious that appears to others to be complete consciousness.

This state is why I don't drink that much anymore. At some point my body decided that instead of just getting sick or passing out that I would just maintain all my faculties except actual consciousness. I essentially became a real life Jekyll and Hyde. It scared me and I learned how to control it with a lot of help and patience from Josie.

Best of luck to James. It could have been a lot worse.

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 11:36 PM

I've never experienced a brownout....but when I do, I hope it involves original Chz.......

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Posted 07 May 2014 - 11:50 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 07 May 2014 - 11:36 PM, said:

I've never experienced a brownout....but when I do, I hope it involves original Chz.......

It usually involves homeless people and Jim's Steakout.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:09 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 May 2014 - 11:50 PM, said:



It usually involves homeless people and Jim's Steakout.

Whole lotta eatin'........

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 12:36 AM

Isn't a brown out when you pass out and get shiit all over, especially the eyes, causing an alternate reality of fecal flow?!?! Wait wait, I think I'm close to that state of bliss as we speak

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 01:39 AM

View Postwyldnwoody44, on 08 May 2014 - 12:36 AM, said:

Isn't a brown out when you pass out and get shiit all over, especially the eyes, causing an alternate reality of fecal flow?!?! Wait wait, I think I'm close to that state of bliss as we speak

I thought it was when you vomit inside of a dead persons chest cavity.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 01:53 AM

So...

What's the difference between a blackout and a brownout???

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:35 AM

View PostAndrew Amerk, on 08 May 2014 - 01:53 AM, said:

So...

What's the difference between a blackout and a brownout???

Presumably where the vomit lands.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 04:51 AM

Thanks d4rk. 'Brownout' is a term I've heard widely used before -- I just couldn't recall (and was too lazy to scroll back up on a balky mobile) who dropped it. Josie, I now see.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:24 AM

View PostAndrew Amerk, on 08 May 2014 - 01:53 AM, said:

So...

What's the difference between a blackout and a brownout???

When you blackout you're usually out for an extended period of time. People tell you all the things you did the next day. And you're all like "woah I don't remember that last hour".

Brownout is when you blackout for short periods of time that you aren't aware of. Your moments of consciousness feel seamless but in reality you just blacked out for two minutes and now your girlfriend is crying and you don't know why. You sorta come in and out of it but don't know that it's happening which can be very confusing.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:35 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 08 May 2014 - 08:24 AM, said:

When you blackout you're usually out for an extended period of time. People tell you all the things you did the next day. And you're all like "woah I don't remember that last hour".

Brownout is when you blackout for short periods of time that you aren't aware of. Your moments of consciousness feel seamless but in reality you just blacked out for two minutes and now your girlfriend is crying and you don't know why. You sorta come in and out of it but don't know that it's happening which can be very confusing.


quite right. it's a matter of degrees. i'm thankful that i never blacked out from booze (at least, not that i recall), but brownouts are far easier to come by. there was a period of time after i was married and had kids that i would periodically "brown out" after a night out with my wife - i'd get into it pretty good, she'd drive home, i'd have a night cap on the couch, fall asleep (pass out), wake up in the morning in bed, but have no or just a faint, fuzzy memory of (1) getting home, (2) pouring the night cap, and/or (3) getting to bed.

i had a few (maybe 5 or 6) of those over 2 years' time, and i was finally just like fook this. no fun, no point.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:42 AM

View Postshrader, on 07 May 2014 - 05:37 PM, said:

Not that it makes anything right, but what exactly is she doing going through his phone?

My friends wife is constantly going through his phone, she even responds to my texts as him sometimes.  He's not up to any shenanigans that I know of, but that would drive me nuts if my wife did that.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:47 AM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 08 May 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

My friends wife is constantly going through his phone, she even responds to my texts as him sometimes.  He's not up to any shenanigans that I know of, but that would drive me nuts if my wife did that.

my girlfriend uses my phone from time to time, and I use hers from time to time to text people of call, but never maliciously.  Lately (since I've been ring shopping), I just delete parts of conversations out of my phone just in case lol.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:48 AM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 08 May 2014 - 08:35 AM, said:

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quite right. it's a matter of degrees. i'm thankful that i never blacked out from booze (at least, not that i recall), but brownouts are far easier to come by. there was a period of time after i was married and had kids that i would periodically "brown out" after a night out with my wife - i'd get into it pretty good, she'd drive home, i'd have a night cap on the couch, fall asleep (pass out), wake up in the morning in bed, but have no or just a faint, fuzzy memory of (1) getting home, (2) pouring the night cap, and/or (3) getting to bed.

i had a few (maybe 5 or 6) of those over 2 years' time, and i was finally just like fook this. no fun, no point.

I think mine were likely a result of either having maximum alcohol tolerance or the way my body was affected by alcohol changed. Drinking like I had when I was younger started turning out scary and much different results. I was going through a pretty dark time as well when this all came to a head so I'm sure a lot of things were driving it.

I'm glad it's a thing of the past. I'm good with it staying there.

Plus I don't have time for being hungover the next day anymore. I work too hard to piss away my free time.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:54 AM

View PostdEnnis the Menace, on 08 May 2014 - 08:47 AM, said:

my girlfriend uses my phone from time to time, and I use hers from time to time to text people of call, but never maliciously.  Lately (since I've been ring shopping), I just delete parts of conversations out of my phone just in case lol.

Oh absolutely, my wife and I use each others phones as needed, but this woman routinely scours his phone and then he will be in the doghouse if she reads about him planning to do something with the guys.  He's in one of those marriages where he's not allowed to have fun without his wife or he is instantly the bad guy.  It just makes me love and appreciate my awesome wife even more.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:57 AM

I refer to brownouts as "Slide Show Memory"

You can remember individual pictures of the evening, but some things are missing, and nothing is in order.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 08:59 AM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 08 May 2014 - 08:42 AM, said:

My friends wife is constantly going through his phone, she even responds to my texts as him sometimes.  He's not up to any shenanigans that I know of, but that would drive me nuts if my wife did that.

I get the impression from this story that she was looking solely for the sake of snooping.  She was looking for an argument and she got one.  Now we just need to know the severity of this incident, was it a legitimate attack or something that is getting blown out of proportion.  I'm sure this one will just go away when cooler heads take over.

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my girlfriend uses my phone from time to time, and I use hers from time to time to text people of call, but never maliciously.  Lately (since I've been ring shopping), I just delete parts of conversations out of my phone just in case lol.

If you ever get to the stage of picking out a rock, just tell the salesman to put the super fancy one away right away.  Of course that $20,000 rock is going to look a million times better than the $5k one.  And no matter which comparisons they try to line up, your eyes are always going to flock to that fancy one as long as it is out on the table.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:20 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 08 May 2014 - 08:48 AM, said:

Plus I don't have time for being hungover the next day anymore. I work too hard to piss away my free time.

Cos when I drink
I spend the next morning in a haze
And we only get so many days
Now I have one less


Edited by That Aud Smell, 08 May 2014 - 09:23 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:22 AM

Wow only an ###### hits his girlfriend.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:31 AM

I'm thinking of trying Jim Koch's (Sam Adams CEO) method of all night drinking without brownouts.  I'm skeptical that this would work as I imagine stomach acids would denature and/or inhibit the alcohol dehydrogenase present in the dry yeast.  It's worth a try and a good excuse to tie one on.

http://www.nydailyne...ticle-1.1773243

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:40 AM

View PostLGR4GM, on 08 May 2014 - 09:22 AM, said:

Wow only an ###### hits his girlfriend.

If he pushed her while trying to his phone back, would that make a difference that he didn't actually hit her?

Edited by Campy, 08 May 2014 - 09:43 AM.


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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:42 AM

View PostCampy, on 08 May 2014 - 09:40 AM, said:

He pushed her while trying to his phone back.  Does it make a difference that he didn't actually hit her?
not really. he had to push her pretty hard.  unless she was about to physically injure him there isn't a good excuse.  That's my own personal opinion though.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:50 AM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 08 May 2014 - 09:20 AM, said:



Cos when I drink
I spend the next morning in a haze
And we only get so many days
Now I have one less



Exactly. Every single word in that song is the truth.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:51 AM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 08 May 2014 - 09:31 AM, said:

I'm thinking of trying Jim Koch's (Sam Adams CEO) method of all night drinking without brownouts.  I'm skeptical that this would work as I imagine stomach acids would denature and/or inhibit the alcohol dehydrogenase present in the dry yeast.  It's worth a try and a good excuse to tie one on.

i'd seen that as well. i do plan to conduct my own experiment.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:55 AM

View PostLGR4GM, on 08 May 2014 - 09:42 AM, said:


not really. he had to push her pretty hard.  unless she was about to physically injure him there isn't a good excuse.  That's my own personal opinion though.

Here's the trick. A drunk man and a sober woman is a no win situation for both parties. I told Josie while we were working through my issues that if I ever was really drunk like I had been other times that I wanted her to get out at all costs. Just leave the apartment. Because one accident is all it takes.

Patrick's lady would have been smart to just leave the situation if she could. Which from the sound of things was an option. Don't engage a drunk man, especially not physically by trying to do something like take his phone from him. Get somewhere safe and call the cops if you need to.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 09:58 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 08 May 2014 - 09:55 AM, said:

Here's the trick. A drunk man and a sober woman is a no win situation for both parties. I told Josie while we were working through my issues that if I ever was really drunk like I had been other times that I wanted her to get out at all costs. Just leave the apartment. Because one accident is all it takes.

Patrick's lady would have been smart to just leave the situation if she could. Which from the sound of things was an option. Don't engage a drunk man, especially not physically by trying to do something like take his phone from him. Get somewhere safe and call the cops if you need to.
I understand.  A lot of people are very different when drunk. That doesn't make it acceptable was basically my opinion.

Also I am the nicest drunk you will ever meet.

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Posted 08 May 2014 - 10:05 AM

View Postshrader, on 08 May 2014 - 08:59 AM, said:

I get the impression from this story that she was looking solely for the sake of snooping.  She was looking for an argument and she got one.  Now we just need to know the severity of this incident, was it a legitimate attack or something that is getting blown out of proportion.  I'm sure this one will just go away when cooler heads take over.



If you ever get to the stage of picking out a rock, just tell the salesman to put the super fancy one away right away.  Of course that $20,000 rock is going to look a million times better than the $5k one.  And no matter which comparisons they try to line up, your eyes are always going to flock to that fancy one as long as it is out on the table.

snooping for the sake of snooping is bound to lead to issues.  I have no issue showing my girl if she thinks something is amiss.  we've both been cheated on in the past by exes so we both have some trust issues no and then, but we are straight and up front with each other about everything.  

I am currently picking out the rock.  I am buying a trade in diamond that was once worth a pretty penny but now since it has been previously set and removed, I'm getting quite the discount B-)  buying it from a friend of the family (an actual jeweler, just not one of those big name (i.e. Kay's, Jared's, or whatever) )

In terms of drunk men and sober women, like D4rk says, that's a recipe for disaster if she instigated that.  It's not an excuse though.  I cannot stand when men push or hit women, and frankly I have no patience for it.  One of my high school friends had an ex that would push her around when he was drunk.  She filed for divorce and got sole custody of their kid.  He blamed me because I was part of her 'support system,' and I flat out told him he was a coward and scumbag for laying his hands on a woman like that.  I had to be restrained from trying to fight him on several occasions.