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#1 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:45 AM

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GAME DISCUSSION THREAD
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GAME #58: BUF (15-33-8) at OTT (25-21-11) – THU FEB 6 – 7:30PM EST – MSG-B, BELL TVWGR-550

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Final Lineup


23 Ville Leino – 63 Tyler Ennis – 21 Drew Stafford
9 Steve Ott ("C") – 19 Cody Hodgson – 27 Matt D'Agostini
84 Phil Varone – 28 Zemgus Girgensons – 65 Brian Flynn
32 John Scott – 24 Zenon Konopka – 37 Matt Ellis
X: 17 Linus Omark (healthy), 82 Marcus Foligno (healthy)

10 Christian Ehrhoff ("A") – 52 Alexander Sulzer
20 Henrik Tallinder ("A") – 4 Jamie McBain
6 Mike Weber – 5 Chad Ruhwedel
X: 57 Tyler Myers (LBI)

1 Jhonas Enroth

30 Ryan Miller

Lineup News & Notes

D Tyler Myers, F Ville Leino, and F Zenon Konopka were scratches in Wednesday's 5-1 loss vs Pittsburgh.
F Cody McCormick (UBI) and F Matt Moulson (UBI) are on IR.

Weekly Transactions

02/03: Placed F Matt Moulson (UBI) on IR; Activated F Drew Stafford from IR.

According to the Stats

In the last 10 games, Buffalo has gone 2-6-2.
Drew Stafford has goals in each of Buffalo's past two games and six points in the past five.


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Final Lineup


9 Milan Michalek – 19 Jason Spezza ("C") – 93 Mika Zibanejad
16 Clarke MacArthur – 7 Kyle Turris – 6 Bobby Ryan
14 Colin Greening – 15 Zack Smith – 25 Chris Neil ("A")
89 Cory Conacher – 24 Stephane Da Costa – 22 Erik Condra
X: 28 Matt Kassian (healthy)

2 Jared Cowen – 65 Erik Karlsson ("A")
3 Marc Methot – 62 Eric Gryba
46 Patrick Wiercioch – 5 Cody Ceci
X: 4 Chris Phillips (LBI), 77 Joe Corvo (healthy)

41 Craig Anderson
40 Robin Lehner

Lineup News & Notes
Ottawa scratched D Chris Phillips, F Matt Kassian, and D Joe Corvo in Wednesday's 5-4 SO win at St. Louis.

Weekly Transactions

02/06: Activated F Mark Stone from IR and re-assigned him to Binghamton (AHL).

According to the Stats

In the Last 10 games, Ottawa has gone 4-3-3.
Jason Spezza has seven points in Ottawa's past five games.


PREGAME LINKS

02/06 – GAME RECAP: SABRES UNABLE TO HOLD BACK PENGUINS ATTACK (Chris Ryndak – Sabres.com)

02/05 – GAME RECAP: Blues fall short in shootout loss to Senators (Louie Korac – NHL.com)

02/05 – Senators face must-win game vs. slumping Sabres (John Kreiser – NHL.com)


02/06 – Instinctive game has allowed Sabres’ Tyler Ennis to showcase more offense and grit (Bill Hoppe – Olean Times Herald)

02/06 – Game Preview: 2/6/14 at Ottawa Senators (Ian Ott – Sabres PR)

02/06 – Sabres at Senators Game Notes PDF (Ian Ott – Sabres PR)


02/06 – Press Clips: 2/6/14 at Ottawa Senators (Ian Ott – Sabres PR)

02/06 – Gameday Journal: Game 58 — Sabres vs. Senators (Chris Lund – OttawaSenators.com)

02/06 – Dan Dunleavy and Brad May preview Thursday night's game against the Senators at Canadian Tire Centre. <4:19>

02/06 – Paul MacLean speaks with media before tonight's game against the Buffalo Sabres. <4:47>

02/06 – Ted Nolan speaks with the media prior to Thursday night's game against the Senators. <2:59>

POSTGAME LINKS

02/06 – POST-GAME NEWSLETTER: Buffalo Sabres @ Ottawa Senators (NHL.com)

02/07 – GAME RECAP: LATE GOAL DOWNS SABRES IN OTTAWA (Chris Ryndak – Sabres.com)

02/06 – Brian Duff and Dan Dunleavy recap the Sabres 3-2 loss to the Senators. <3:26>

02/06 – Ted Nolan speaks with the media following the Sabres 3-2 loss to the Senators. <2:28>

02/06 – Henrik Tallinder speaks with the media following the Sabres 3-2 loss to the Senators. <1:48>

02/06 – Tyler Ennis speaks with the media following the Sabres 3-2 loss to the Senators. <1:56>

02/06 – Jhonas Enroth speaks with the media following the Sabres 3-2 loss to the Senators. <2:15>

02/06 – Drew Stafford speaks with Brian Duff and Brad May following the Sabres 3-2 loss to the Senators. <3:28>

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 07 February 2014 - 09:17 AM.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:20 AM

Chance to watch some future Sabres?

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:05 AM

A loss to the 2nd worst team at home sandwiched by 7-1 and 5-1 losses. This is even worse than than watching Kelly Holcomb lead your NFL team.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:02 AM

So I would assume Miller is going again tonight right?

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:22 AM

How is Chad Ruhwedel  a +3 on this team?? I mean he's playing with Erhoff but damn. That's like a high score for this season.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:34 AM

I love Rudy as a young player, but he needs to play much bigger.  I have seen him get absolutely leveled more than a couple times.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:49 AM

View PostDerrico, on 06 February 2014 - 09:02 AM, said:

So I would assume Miller is going again tonight right?
Probably, but he shouldn't. How does that help us if we're trying to trade him tomorrow?

Just give Enroth the start and play it safe. Of course, the Sabres generally do stupid things so.....

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 09:54 AM

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No morning skate for the #Sabres today in Ottawa. We'll speak with interim coach Ted Nolan later this afternoon. Puck drops at 7:30 p.m. -CR

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:05 AM

Wondering why Ted still has the interim tag after reports a few weeks ago that it was close to coming off.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:25 AM

View PostRobviously, on 06 February 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

Probably, but he shouldn't. How does that help us if we're trying to trade him tomorrow?

Just give Enroth the start and play it safe. Of course, the Sabres generally do stupid things so.....

Just an fyi, I heard it mentioned during last night's game that Miller had asked TN to allow him the option of playing tonight if he so chooses.  I think Miller wants to use tonight's game as a final tune-up for Sochi if he feels it necessary.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:33 AM

View PostROC_EMT, on 06 February 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

Just an fyi, I heard it mentioned during last night's game that Miller had asked TN to allow him the option of playing tonight if he so chooses.  I think Miller wants to use tonight's game as a final tune-up for Sochi if he feels it necessary.
That's interesting, but I want Nolan and Murray making decisions that put the Sabres first, not Ryan Miller.

I don't want "Ryan wanted to" to be a factor in their decisions at all.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:34 AM

02/06 – Gameday Journal: Game 58 — Sabres vs. Senators (Chris Lund – OttawaSenators.com)

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 10:35 AM

View PostROC_EMT, on 06 February 2014 - 10:25 AM, said:

Just an fyi, I heard it mentioned during last night's game that Miller had asked TN to allow him the option of playing tonight if he so chooses.  I think Miller wants to use tonight's game as a final tune-up for Sochi if he feels it necessary.
After last night's game:

(Right at the end of the clip)
Paul Hamilton: "Are you playing tomorrow or no?"
Ryan Miller: "I don't know yet"
PH: "Would you like to?"
RM: "If they need me to play, I'll play."

Edited by Assquatch, 06 February 2014 - 10:43 AM.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:39 AM

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Anderson will start. Chris Phillips likely won't return until after Olympic break. Mark Stone has been sent back to Binghamton. #Sens

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:41 AM

View PostRobviously, on 06 February 2014 - 10:33 AM, said:

That's interesting, but I want Nolan and Murray making decisions that put the Sabres first, not Ryan Miller.

I don't want "Ryan wanted to" to be a factor in their decisions at all.
That would be nice. Not sure why Nolan is such a Miller apologist, regardless of the level of team in front of him last night Miller let in a couple soft goals.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:52 AM

View PostAssquatch, on 06 February 2014 - 10:35 AM, said:

After last night's game:

(Right at the end of the clip)
Paul Hamilton: "Are you playing tomorrow or no?"
Ryan Miller: "I don't know yet"
PH: "Would you like to?"
RM: "If they need me to play, I'll play."

eff him, he can't leave soon enough for me.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:53 AM

Looks like we have a Konopka fan from the Phillipines

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 11:54 AM


John Vogl@BuffNewsVogl 14m

There is only one Sabres player on the ice in Ottawa: Ryan Miller. The goalie is working with coach Jim Corsi, getting game ready for Sochi.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:03 PM

View PostBocceBall, on 06 February 2014 - 11:52 AM, said:



eff him, he can't leave soon enough for me.

I am with you. The time has come to move on.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:08 PM

View PostRobviously, on 06 February 2014 - 09:49 AM, said:

Probably, but he shouldn't. How does that help us if we're trying to trade him tomorrow?

Just give Enroth the start and play it safe. Of course, the Sabres generally do stupid things so.....

I'm thinking that letting up less than a 5 spot may not help his trade value.  He let up a bunch against Colorado recently and now 5 to Pitt.  Those are good teams but if he can pull out a 1 goal against that may help any trade potential.  Of course you are right in there is the risk of injury.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:21 PM

View PostDerrico, on 06 February 2014 - 12:08 PM, said:

I'm thinking that letting up less than a 5 spot may not help his trade value.  He let up a bunch against Colorado recently and now 5 to Pitt.  Those are good teams but if he can pull out a 1 goal against that may help any trade potential.  Of course you are right in there is the risk of injury.
If their are worried about the risk of injury, he should have been moved at the first offer being brought up to them. You can't wrap him up in bubble wrap and hope he doesn't get injured while waiting for someone to make a deal for him.

If anything, sitting him til someone makes you an offer for him isn't going to help his trade value at all and will probably have the opposite effect and lower the offers you will get for him.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:33 PM

This has become a situation where a situation has been dragged on way too long and impatience/anticipation has turned some fans against the player.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 12:48 PM

View Postapuszczalowski, on 06 February 2014 - 12:21 PM, said:

If their are worried about the risk of injury, he should have been moved at the first offer being brought up to them. You can't wrap him up in bubble wrap and hope he doesn't get injured while waiting for someone to make a deal for him.

If anything, sitting him til someone makes you an offer for him isn't going to help his trade value at all and will probably have the opposite effect and lower the offers you will get for him.

That's what I'm thinking as well.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:19 PM

View PostBills12Sabres11, on 06 February 2014 - 11:41 AM, said:

That would be nice. Not sure why Nolan is such a Miller apologist, regardless of the level of team in front of him last night Miller let in a couple soft goals.

Because calling him out would hurt his trade value.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:46 PM

View PostDGW54321, on 06 February 2014 - 10:05 AM, said:

Wondering why Ted still has the interim tag after reports a few weeks ago that it was close to coming off.
I wonder too...
It is such a bad team it is hard to tell what difference, if any, coaching has made beyond a bit more hustle.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 02:49 PM

Rudy's projected to play with Weber tonight

Say your last goodbyes to having a positive +/-.

Good-luck..




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Posted 06 February 2014 - 03:37 PM

02/06 – Dan Dunleavy and Brad May preview Thursday night's game against the Senators at Canadian Tire Centre. <4:19>

02/06 – Paul MacLean speaks with media before tonight's game against the Buffalo Sabres. <4:47>

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 06 February 2014 - 04:05 PM.


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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:44 PM

View PostBuffaloBorn, on 06 February 2014 - 02:49 PM, said:

Rudy's projected to play with Weber tonight

Say your last goodbyes to having a positive +/-.

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Oh, ######... Rudy is DOOMED!  He'll be a -3 tonight.

View PostNumark, on 06 February 2014 - 09:34 AM, said:

I love Rudy as a young player, but he needs to play much bigger.  I have seen him get absolutely leveled more than a couple times.

No way that kid weighs more than about 170 lbs.  He's like our very own Rudy Ruettiger, except I doubt Sean Astin will play him in a movie.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:47 PM

Rudy and Weber are the treads on the tank.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 04:55 PM

Rudy had that play last night where he checked Malkin.  That was cool.  I imagine that when you make it to the show (this is Rudy's 2nd time, but still), it must be such a shot of adrenaline to look up and realize the guy you're boxing out is one of the best in the world.  I was talking to an ECHL player at a drop-in game a while back and I asked him who the best player he ever played against was.  The answer was Crosby, in juniors.  He said that he tried to hit him as hard as he could and that Crosby didn't even move.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:30 PM

Back to Weber and McBain being paired again. :sick:
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No skate today except for Miller working with Jim Corsi. I have heard that Myers won't play again tonight.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:33 PM

I am really trying to care, but I just cannot.  I am being run over by the tank

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:37 PM

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Nolan: Leino & Konopka in. Foligno and Omark out. No Myers tonight. Enroth to start. #sabres -CR

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 05:38 PM

I figured Myers was out till the break.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:00 PM

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 06:00 PM

02/06 – Ted Nolan speaks with the media prior to Thursday night's game against the Senators. <2:59>

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:13 PM

@pham1717
Tallinder with McBain, Weber goes with Ruhwedel.

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#Sabres forwards:
Ott-Hodgson-D'Agostini
Leino-Ennis-Stafford
Varone-Girgensons-Flynn
Scott-Konopka-Ellis

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#Sabres D:
Ehrhoff/Sulzer
Tallinder/McBain
Weber/Ruhwedel

Enroth in goal

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:29 PM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 06 February 2014 - 07:13 PM, said:

@pham1717
Tallinder with McBain, Weber goes with Ruhwedel.

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#Sabres forwards:
Ott-Hodgson-D'Agostini
Leino-Ennis-Stafford
Varone-Girgensons-Flynn
Scott-Konopka-Ellis

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#Sabres D:
Ehrhoff/Sulzer
Tallinder/McBain
Weber/Ruhwedel

Enroth in goal

This is the most ridiculously feeble line-up in team history.
Arguably  1 NHL line and 1 NHL defense-man with a  13 straight start win-less goalie.

It's like drawing 7-2 hole cards again and again.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:41 PM

First "no, you're right" in Rob Ray History!!!! Earliest, I mean to say.

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Posted 06 February 2014 - 07:44 PM

looks like the anti-shut down pair of McPain & Weber again - 2 pylons together ??





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