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#1 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:10 AM

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TOR (14-9-2) at BUF (5-20-1) – NOV 29 – 7:30PM ET – MSG-B, BELL TVWGR-AM

Sabres aim to end skid against Maple Leafs

D'Agostini ready for another new opportunity

Randy Carlyle Press Conference (11/28/13)

Ted Nolan Press Conference (11/28/13)


Ted Nolan Press Conference (11/29/13)

SABRES DIGITAL PRESSBOX

Leafs vs Sabres Game Notes PDF (11/29/13)

THE MORNING SKATE: D'AGOSTINI SET TO MAKE SABRES DEBUT

Dunleavy: Sabres-Maple Leafs Preview (11/29/13)

Matt D'Agostini Interview (11/29/13)

Christian Ehrhoff Interview (11/29/13)

Matt Moulson Interview (11/29/13)

Steve Ott Interview (11/29/13)


BUFFALO SABRES

Projected Lineup
(pending morning skate & warmups)

26 Matt Moulson – 19 Cody Hodgson – 21 Drew Stafford
9 Steve Ott ("C") – 23 Ville Leino – 27 Matt D'Agostini
72 Luke Adam –  63 Tyler Ennis– 28 Zemgus Girgensons
82 Marcus Foligno – 65 Brian Flynn – 32 John Scott


X: 25 Mikhail Grigorenko

52 Alexander Sulzer – 10 Christian Ehrhoff ("A")
20 Henrik Tallinder ("A") – 57 Tyler Myers
6 Mike Weber – 3 Mark Pysyk


X: 4 Jamie McBain, 44 Brayden McNabb

30 Ryan Miller
1 Jhonas Enroth

Lineup News & Notes

Buffalo scratched Matt D'Agostini, Jamie McBain and Mike Weber in Wednesday's 3-1 loss vs Montreal.
Cody McCormick (UBI) remains on injured reserve.

Weekly Transactions

Buffalo claimed Matt D'Agostini off waivers from Pittsburgh on Wednesday, waiving Corey Tropp, who was lost to Columbus.

TORONTO MAPLE LEAFS

Projected Lineup
(pending morning skate & warmups)

21 James van Riemsdyk – 42 Tyler Bozak – 81 Phil Kessel
12 Mason Raymond – 43 Nazem Kadri – 71 David Clarkson
11 Jay McClement ("A") – 24 Peter Holland – 41 Nikolai Kulemin
23 Trevor Smith – 22 Jerred Smithson – 28 Colton Orr


X: 19 Joffrey Lupul ("A"), 38 Frazer McLaren

3 Dion Phaneuf ("C") – 36 Carl Gunnarsson
15 Paul Ranger – 44 Morgan Rielly
2 Mark Fraser – 4 Cody Franson


X: 51 Jake Gardiner

34 James Reimer

45 Jonathan Bernier


Lineup News & Notes

Toronto scratched Jake Gardiner, Joffrey Lupul (groin) and Frazer McLaren in Wednesday's 6-5 SOL at Pittsburgh.
Dave Bolland (ankle) remains inactive.

Weekly Transactions

Toronto signed Frederik Gauthier to a 3-yr ELC on Wednesday. Carter Ashton called up from AHL this morning.

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 29 November 2013 - 02:48 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:14 AM

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:48 AM

Drew Stafford on the first line makes me want to fight strangers at Wal-Mart.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:51 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 29 November 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

Drew Stafford on the first line makes me want to fight strangers at Wal-Mart.
Lots of opportunities today.  Or right now if you hurry.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:17 AM

Another game? Ughhh.

At least I can't watch it because I'll be at work.  I'll also be missing 2nd thanksgiving (ultimate childhood perk of divorced parents) and a hockey game with all the friends that are home.

Toronto fell apart against the Pens, and we know that they are capable of losing to us.  They are soft and pathetic and I hate them.

But that doesn't mean I don't like you, millbank!  I have plenty of beloved friends from Toronto that I hate!

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 04:26 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 29 November 2013 - 12:48 AM, said:

Drew Stafford on the first line makes me want to fight strangers at Wal-Mart.

I hate Drew. With a vengeance, let there be no doubt.

But I have to say, he's looked different under Nolan.

Not "4.5 mill. a year caliber" different, but not hopeless either.

Another psychotically bad contract to pin on Regier.

Edited by Kristian, 29 November 2013 - 04:32 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:21 AM

Matt D'Agostini on the second line?

Really?

We scratch Ennis for his boneheaded penalties?

Ok.

I watch and learn but i do not neglect my right to complain later about these moves.

#8 26CornerBlitz

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:32 AM

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Lowest shots per game teams this #NHL season: #njdevils 24.7; #Sabres 25.3, #Leafs 26.1, #CBJ 27.6, #PredsNHL 28.0, #Oilers 28.0.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:32 AM

oh no. we're gonna get spanked again!



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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:33 AM

Everything I've seen indicates a 730 start, not 7.  Let's not make this any more drawn out and painful than it needs to be.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 08:39 AM

View PostEleven, on 29 November 2013 - 08:33 AM, said:

Everything I've seen indicates a 730 start, not 7.  Let's not make this any more drawn out and painful than it needs to be.

You're correct....Fixed it. :thumbsup:

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:01 AM

This would be a win that Tank Nation can swallow.  Nothing outside of my wife and my bedroom feels better than beating the laughs.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:03 AM

Go to the projected lineups and consider trading each player listed in their respected spots. The first two lines not one Sabre is the better end of the trade. All total I think we would have 6 players that I would not trade straight up for the Leaf. And that's not considering Bolland and Lupol are injured.

I am not a Leaf fan but to knock their team is a joke. Not one person on here wouldn't take that team compared to our abortion in a heartbeat.

Edited by sicknfla, 29 November 2013 - 09:04 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:21 AM

View PostLaLaLaFontaine, on 29 November 2013 - 08:21 AM, said:

Matt D'Agostini on the second line?

Really?

We scratch Ennis for his boneheaded penalties?

Ok.

I watch and learn but i do not neglect my right to complain later about these moves.

Ennis's penalty was "boneheaded", but if you start scratching players for penalties, you're going to have players that are so afraid of making a mistake, that it will affect their play. To bring in D'Agostini and place him right in the top 6 is a joke IMO.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 09:42 AM

View Postsicknfla, on 29 November 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

Go to the projected lineups and consider trading each player listed in their respected spots. The first two lines not one Sabre is the better end of the trade. All total I think we would have 6 players that I would not trade straight up for the Leaf. And that's not considering Bolland and Lupol are injured.

I am not a Leaf fan but to knock their team is a joke. Not one person on here wouldn't take that team compared to our abortion in a heartbeat.

At this point, nobody rooting for the Sabres should knock any other team.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:19 AM

View Postsicknfla, on 29 November 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

Go to the projected lineups and consider trading each player listed in their respected spots. The first two lines not one Sabre is the better end of the trade. All total I think we would have 6 players that I would not trade straight up for the Leaf. And that's not considering Bolland and Lupol are injured.

I am not a Leaf fan but to knock their team is a joke. Not one person on here wouldn't take that team compared to our abortion in a heartbeat.

As Kristain said, I don't think we can knock any other team.  Having said that, the leafs have been in rebuild mode for the past decade now and are still a middling team.  I won't knock them but I don't want to look to them as a success story either.

Edited by Derrico, 29 November 2013 - 10:19 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 10:39 AM

Staffords getting better, he still sucks. Toronto is doing better, they still suck. and NO I would never take their team b/c I don't like them. Wouldn't want Kessel or Phaneuf on this team either. Another reason I wouldn't want their team is because it could interfere with the process of getting a 1st overall pick. And finally I share a strange sentiment for the sabres that the leafs cannot replace.

&I'll knock on Toronto's team all I want

Edited by BuffaloBorn, 29 November 2013 - 10:40 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:00 AM

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Brayden McNabb, Jamie McBain and Mikhail Grigorenko will be scratched for Sabres. Cody McCormick (upper body) not ready to return.

Why bench 44 and 25?

Edited by Robviously, 29 November 2013 - 11:00 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:19 AM

View PostRobviously, on 29 November 2013 - 11:00 AM, said:

John Vogl@BuffNewsVogl2m
Brayden McNabb, Jamie McBain and Mikhail Grigorenko will be scratched for Sabres. Cody McCormick (upper body) not ready to return.

Why bench 44 and 25?

:huh:

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:31 AM

View PostBuffaloBorn, on 29 November 2013 - 10:39 AM, said:

Staffords getting better, he still sucks. Toronto is doing better, they still suck. and NO I would never take their team b/c I don't like them. Wouldn't want Kessel or Phaneuf on this team either. Another reason I wouldn't want their team is because it could interfere with the process of getting a 1st overall pick. And finally I share a strange sentiment for the sabres that the leafs cannot replace.

&I'll knock on Toronto's team all I want

I would take Phaneuf in a heartbeat, and I really hope the Sabres go after him hard in free agency this summer.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:35 AM

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Maple Leafs have called up forward Carter Ashton.

Nolan just said in his Presser that Ennis back to Center.

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Grigorenko is scratched. Nolan said both he and McNabb will play in New Jersey,.

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Ted Nolan says Mikhail Grigorenko will be back in lineup Saturday, adds Brayden McNabb a little too aggressive jumping up in play lately.

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 29 November 2013 - 11:39 AM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:43 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 29 November 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

I would take Phaneuf in a heartbeat, and I really hope the Sabres go after him hard in free agency this summer.

If the Sabres offer Phaneuf anywhere near an 8x8 contract, I'll have an aneurysm. Somebody's going to do it, and I don't want it to be us.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 29 November 2013 - 11:43 AM, said:



If the Sabres offer Phaneuf anywhere near an 8x8 contract, I'll have an aneurysm. Somebody's going to do it, and I don't want it to be us.

Well, under the CBA only the Leafs can give him an 8-year deal -- everyone else is limited to 7.

He's 28.  I'd give him a fat 7-year deal in a heartbeat.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 29 November 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Well, under the CBA only the Leafs can give him an 8-year deal -- everyone else is limited to 7.

He's 28.  I'd give him a fat 7-year deal in a heartbeat.

I know we're desperate for guys who can actually play hockey, but really - 7 years at 8 mill. a year for Phaneuf? Bit too steep for me.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 11:57 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 29 November 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Well, under the CBA only the Leafs can give him an 8-year deal -- everyone else is limited to 7.

He's 28.  I'd give him a fat 7-year deal in a heartbeat.

Correct on the years, and I still wouldn't want to give him anywhere near $8MM per year.  That's franchise defenseman money for a guy who isn't a franchise player.  Would you support doubling Ehrhoff's cap hit to $8MM?  Because that's essentially what you're getting with Phaneuf (I know they're different types of player, but in a talent-tier sense they're in the same ballpark).

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:16 PM

Ted Nolan speaks with the media following Friday's morning skate at First Niagara Center: Ted Nolan Press Conference (11/29/13)

Leafs vs Sabres Game Notes PDF (11/29/13)

Edited by 26CornerBlitz, 29 November 2013 - 12:22 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:24 PM

Is why i still say Erhoffs deal was a steal if you see the money they want to throw at princess phaneuf

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:32 PM

View Postnfreeman, on 29 November 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

Well, under the CBA only the Leafs can give him an 8-year deal -- everyone else is limited to 7.

He's 28.  I'd give him a fat 7-year deal in a heartbeat.

I know we need some veterans to show the youth the way.  But our future looks very bright on the blueline and I would much rather spend that kind of money on a forward.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:54 PM

View PostDerrico, on 29 November 2013 - 12:32 PM, said:

I know we need some veterans to show the youth the way.  But our future looks very bright on the blueline and I would much rather spend that kind of money on a forward.

And this

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 12:58 PM

View Postnfreeman, on 29 November 2013 - 11:31 AM, said:

I would take Phaneuf in a heartbeat, and I really hope the Sabres go after him hard in free agency this summer.
I wouldn't, and i hope the Leafs pay huge for the most overrated player in the NHL

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:06 PM

I agree in any money we spend in FA needs to be on forwards.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:29 PM

View Postsicknfla, on 29 November 2013 - 01:06 PM, said:

I agree in any money we spend in FA needs to be on forwards.

Who can score.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:39 PM

Then again we don't want them this summer, we want them next summer, can't miss out on the 2015 1st pick :P

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:49 PM

Ugh everyone knows we will suck this year and have a decent pick.... But we're not gonna be this bad next year, we may not be good, but no way we are this bad with a new GM and etc....

In GDT news, who thinks there is gonna be a carryover from the Phaneuf and Scott issue or will the stripes automatically hand out a misconduct to every sabre over 6'2" as soon as they touch the ice and effectively neuter our team

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 01:59 PM

If that same ###### happens again, sabres should make a formal complaint.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:12 PM

View PostHeimdall, on 29 November 2013 - 01:59 PM, said:

If that same ###### happens again, sabres should make a formal complaint.

And Brendan Shanahan will review it.

" After reviewing the formal complaint lodged by the Buffalo Sabres, I have concluded :nana: "

I couldn't find an emocon of giving the finger to.

Edited by kishoph, 29 November 2013 - 02:14 PM.


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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:15 PM

People need to stop comparing Myers to Chara. If Myers finds his ceiling, he is Phaneuf. Considering Myers is hauling in 6+ a year....there isn't room for both of them on the roster. Now if we had traded Myers, Ennis and Stafford 2 years ago to Anaheim when the Ducks were a mess and grabbed Getzlaf and Ryan in return....then we could be talking about signing Phaneuf to put us over the top.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:16 PM

I'm expecting a little fight night.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:19 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 29 November 2013 - 02:16 PM, said:

I'm expecting a little fight night.

Bet anything the refs, per league orders, will not allow too many fisticuffs.

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Posted 29 November 2013 - 02:22 PM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 29 November 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Bet anything the refs, per league orders, will not allow too many fisticuffs.

pfft if i know they are throwing me out of the game for nothing , who is going to stop me ?





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