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#1 Tankalicious

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

Now that he's gone, we can finally appreciate the times that he WAS a part of here in Buffalo. So many hurt feelings and hate lately, but there were good times had while he was here. Thanks for a great run in the middle there.


We shall never forget that time you got a first for Gaustad.



EDIT: I changed the title for a more appropriate representation.

Edited by DStebb, 13 November 2013 - 12:10 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:44 AM

Nope Nope Nope

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:45 AM

Not today.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:46 AM

I appreciate that he's gone

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:48 AM

View PostOverPowerYou, on 13 November 2013 - 11:46 AM, said:

I appreciate that he's gone

There's one way to look at it.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:48 AM

I have no nostalgia for the guy.  As far as I'm concerned he took over a Cup-contending team that John Muckler built, made it worse, then got lucky for a couple of years when the rules changed post-lockout.  Good riddance.  He should have been fired back in 2008 or sooner.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 11:49 AM

Oh come on. Thanks and appreciation of course. The guy gave his life to our cause (OK, that sounds goofy). He could have won multiple Cups. His flaws were numerous and he wasn't easy to know or frankly like.

Still, thanks and best wishes Darcy. Some sort of public recognition would be nice, but that would be hard to pull off. I really doubt Darcy would want to take a bow.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:02 PM

I guess it's stronger for a 20-something like me who hasn't known any other GM.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:07 PM

I'll say it again:  the guy did make some brilliant trades.  He really did.  But what he did with respect to Briere was unforgivable enough, and starting two consecutive seasons with one NHL-quality center on the roster is almost criminal.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:09 PM

In 2006 Darcy Regier had the Chance to win a Stanley Cup. At the trade deadline he did not get the required depth defender we needed.  Instead with our 1st overall pick he took Dennis Persson. We lost out to Carolina.  So #### him for being a yes man and good riddance, I will never forgive him for this.

Edited by LGR4GM, 13 November 2013 - 12:09 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:10 PM

wait...... this is serious?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:11 PM

View Postweave, on 13 November 2013 - 12:10 PM, said:

wait...... this is serious?

Don't hate the playa.....love the coup!

Good luck Darcy. May the Flyers hire you as their new GM.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:16 PM

You can certainly blame him for recent struggles, and be glad that he's gone, but to act as though there were no good times kind of stinks, IMO.  From 2005 - 2007 we were built to make a run at the cup, and if not for a comical run of injuries in 2006 we probably would have brought it home.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:28 PM

Positives for Darcy;

He was never involved in dog-fighting.

Any more?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:32 PM

View PostJsixspd, on 13 November 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

Positives for Darcy;

He was never involved in dog-fighting.

Any more?

He never hit anyone with a car.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:44 PM

To the best of my knowledge he never dressed Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:53 PM

View PostEleven, on 13 November 2013 - 12:07 PM, said:

I'll say it again:  the guy did make some brilliant trades.  He really did.  But what he did with respect to Briere was unforgivable enough, and starting two consecutive seasons with one NHL-quality center on the roster is almost criminal.

That was my biggest problem with him. You need to have good quality centers in order to be a winning team. After Drury & Briere left, Regier had a bunch of wingers with a good goalie, and that got us nowhere.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 12:55 PM

View Postdudacek, on 13 November 2013 - 12:44 PM, said:

To the best of my knowledge he never dressed Rob Johnson over Doug Flutie.

Ok, let's go there.  Flutie stinks.

View PostJsixspd, on 13 November 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

Positives for Darcy;

He was never involved in dog-fighting.

Any more?

Getting a 1st round pick for Paul Gaustad not a positive?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:00 PM

A perfect fit.......


To the curious. The inquisitive. The seekers of knowledge.
To the ones who just wanna know.
About life.
About the universe. About yourself.
Not cute questions.
Big questions, ones that matter.
To the rebels, the artists, the free thinkers and the innovators.
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Because in the eternal debate for answers, the one thing that's true is what's true for you.

Edited by BMWR100RT, 13 November 2013 - 01:02 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:07 PM

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:15 PM

View PostPotato, on 13 November 2013 - 11:48 AM, said:

I have no nostalgia for the guy.  As far as I'm concerned he took over a Cup-contending team that John Muckler built, made it worse, then got lucky for a couple of years when the rules changed post-lockout.  Good riddance.  He should have been fired back in 2008 or sooner.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:19 PM

Darcy had a 1998-1999 John Muckler team within one illegal goal of the Cup (or at least a shot in Game 7).  He got lucky in 05-06, didn't capitalize in 06-07, and had been terrible since.  He did parlay Barnaby into Barnes, who stole the show in the 99 playoffs.  Made some good trades, but should have been fired years ago.  

I just hope that he was allowed to drive home after practice before being told, as was what he did to Lindy last year.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:26 PM

He made some good trades, but today was LONG Overdue.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:29 PM

View PostBRAWNDO, on 13 November 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

He made some good trades, but today was LONG Overdue.

Mhm.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:42 PM

View PostCorp000085, on 13 November 2013 - 01:19 PM, said:

Darcy had a 1998-1999 John Muckler team within one illegal goal of the Cup (or at least a shot in Game 7).  He got lucky in 05-06, didn't capitalize in 06-07, and had been terrible since.  He did parlay Barnaby into Barnes, who stole the show in the 99 playoffs.  Made some good trades, but should have been fired years ago.  

I just hope that he was allowed to drive home after practice before being told, as was what he did to Lindy last year.

I agree

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:43 PM

Well with this move my insider tie to the Sabres has been severed.  I do not know DR personally, but I have a close personal contact who does. I never asked for or received any "breaking" type news from this contact over the years, but I did receive confirmation about some things that never officially came out.  Good luck to Darcy, I do hope that he lands on his feet somewhere.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 01:48 PM

I hesitate to comment while the blood is still in the water, but here goes anyway.

Regier served his owners well. He did what he was told and thus he survived for so many years. He had to survive a couple of owners who really didn't care about hockey and mostly cared about the bottom line. Regier was the fall guy for a lot of the Sabres problems. If you look at his hockey decisions, he made many good ones and the next Sabres GM will benefit greatly from a lot of his decisions. He made some bad ones too.

I think the hiring of Ron Rolston was a mistake especially when you consider the availability of some good coaches at the time.

Terry Pegula is not without fault, but he wasn't about to fire himself. Somebody else had to take the blame and Regier and Rolston were the obvious targets.

I hope LaFontaine hires a sharp GM who knows what he is doing.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:36 PM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 13 November 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Well with this move my insider tie to the Sabres has been severed.  I do not know DR personally, but I have a close personal contact who does. I never asked for or received any "breaking" type news from this contact over the years, but I did receive confirmation about some things that never officially came out.  Good luck to Darcy, I do hope that he lands on his feet somewhere.

That's very man of you to admit.

You have been fair in your commentary while tipping your hand a tad.



View PostBMWR100RT, on 13 November 2013 - 01:00 PM, said:

A perfect fit.......


To the curious. The inquisitive. The seekers of knowledge.
To the ones who just wanna know.
About life.
About the universe. About yourself.
Not cute questions.
Big questions, ones that matter.
To the rebels, the artists, the free thinkers and the innovators.
Who care less about labels and more about truth.
Who believe non-conformity is more than a bumper sticker.
That knowledge is more than words on a page.
You're young.
You're old.
You're powerful beyond measure and the fuel of that power is not magic or mysticism, but knowledge.
The things you see.
The things you feel.
The things you know to be true.
Sure, some will doubt you.
Let 'em.
Dare to think for yourself.
To look for yourself.
To make up your own mind.
Because in the eternal debate for answers, the one thing that's true is what's true for you.

Sweet Medicine :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:49 PM

I think DR is a good and honorable guy who cares about the people he works with.  We all owe him a debt of gratitude for building the unforgettable 2005-06 team, which was thrilling, deep, fast, tough, a joy to watch and unforgivably ruined by ownership.  (And I completely reject the meme that he got lucky with the NHL rule changes -- that team would have been great in any era.)

He just didn't do his job well enough.  Many wanted him gone earlier, but I thought the time to can him was after 2011-12, when he sat by and did nothing while the season went down the drain in the first half of the year.  Everything that happened after that was a day late and a dollar short -- and the stench of acceptable losing got more and more ingrained in the franchise.

Anyway, thanks for your hard work and your service DR.  Best of luck to you.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:51 PM

View Postnfreeman, on 13 November 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I think DR is a good and honorable guy who cares about the people he works with.  We all owe him a debt of gratitude for building the unforgettable 2005-06 team, which was thrilling, deep, fast, tough, a joy to watch and unforgivably ruined by ownership.  (And I completely reject the meme that he got lucky with the NHL rule changes -- that team would have been great in any era.)

He just didn't do his job well enough.  Many wanted him gone earlier, but I thought the time to can him was after 2011-12, when he sat by and did nothing while the season went down the drain in the first half of the year.  Everything that happened after that was a day late and a dollar short -- and the stench of acceptable losing got more and more ingrained in the franchise.

Anyway, thanks for your hard work and your service DR.  Best of luck to you.

Well, I said not today, but at the right time, that pretty much would have summed it up for me.
So, ditto.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 02:54 PM



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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:07 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 13 November 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

Don't hate the playa.....love the coup!

Good luck Darcy. May the Flyers hire you as their new GM.

:w00t: , Naw i vote for Toronto

Thanks for memories,  may you make a good scout for the alberta minor league.

oh and thank you for ending the nightmares that have cost me multiple couch sessions and lots of $'s in copays.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:14 PM

At one point T pegs said something like DR would be hired in a second if he were available.....well, let's see how that plays out.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:16 PM

Thanks Darcy. You've been a loyal soldier. Just not a very good one. Adios.

Edited by beerme1, 13 November 2013 - 03:16 PM.


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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:18 PM

View PostClaude_Verret, on 13 November 2013 - 01:43 PM, said:

Well with this move my insider tie to the Sabres has been severed.  I do not know DR personally, but I have a close personal contact who does. I never asked for or received any "breaking" type news from this contact over the years, but I did receive confirmation about some things that never officially came out.  Good luck to Darcy, I do hope that he lands on his feet somewhere.

Can you speak freely now?

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:26 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 13 November 2013 - 02:36 PM, said:

That's very man of you to admit.

You have been fair in your commentary while tipping your hand a tad.


Actually today was the only time that I had an early confirmation on something.  When the rumors began swirling I texted him and I got confirmation on DR but he asked me to keep it quiet until official word was released, which I considered to be when Dreger tweeted it.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:26 PM

View Postnfreeman, on 13 November 2013 - 02:49 PM, said:

I think DR is a good and honorable guy who cares about the people he works with.  We all owe him a debt of gratitude for building the unforgettable 2005-06 team, which was thrilling, deep, fast, tough, a joy to watch and unforgivably ruined by ownership.  (And I completely reject the meme that he got lucky with the NHL rule changes -- that team would have been great in any era.)

Anyway, thanks for your hard work and your service DR.  Best of luck to you.

Hear, hear -- especially that piece.

IMO, if the team had managed to get any decent luck in terms of injuries in the spring of 2006, DR would have a Stanley Cup on his resume. (And I don't buy that we were too thin organizationally at D that year, notwithstanding DR's decision to overload on journeymen D thereafter.)

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:37 PM

View PostBRAWNDO, on 13 November 2013 - 01:26 PM, said:

He made some good trades, but today was LONG Overdue.

Well, really good trades will help get you to the Cup Finals.  He made some very notable trades that definitely helped the team (Briere, et al.) BUT, he also kept a player like Stafford on the roster waiting (apparently) for him to "blossom".  I do think that Darcy thinks he did (and was doing) a great job.  It's just that his idea of a great job was everyone else's idea of mediocre.  Thanks to Darcy for trying, anyway (but don't let the locker room door hit you in the buttocks on the way out...) :thumbsup:

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:38 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 13 November 2013 - 03:26 PM, said:

Hear, hear -- especially that piece.

IMO, if the team had managed to get any decent luck in terms of injuries in the spring of 2006, DR would have a Stanley Cup on his resume. (And I don't buy that we were too thin organizationally at D that year, notwithstanding DR's decision to overload on journeymen D thereafter.)

One other thing about that team, as we praise and bury DR:  he put it together on a shoestring budget, with the NHL taking over ownership from a felon, a franchise move being a very real possibility, terrible attendance and other teams in the NHL spending literally 4x what the Sabres were spending.  That was his crowning achievement as an NHL GM, and it was damned fine work.

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Posted 13 November 2013 - 03:39 PM

In all honesty, there have only been 6-8 people who have really trended towards defending Regier lately. You snuck into that bunch, but weren't over the top and still were pretty fair otherwise.