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#1 nfreeman

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:34 AM

Well, here's an interesting article showing that sports organizations do indeed visit and post on fan message boards in an attempt to spin things their way:http://www.baltimore...0,2282119.story

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The University of Maryland anticipated most fans would initially react "emotionally and negatively" to last year's decision to join the Big Ten Conference. So the school sought to influence the debate with a plan to lobby media pundits and plant positive comments into fan message boards.



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Lee Zeidman, the corporate communications consultant who helped Maryland draft letters and talking points, said Wednesday that it is "standard operating procedure" in the business world to weigh in directly on message boards. "There are special PR agencies who work in the digital space who bombard blogs and newspaper sites where no one puts their name," Zeidman said.



I guess I'm posting this because I'm curious as to whether this goes on here.  I'm not prepared to accuse any of the DR defenders directly yet, but be forewarned:  the angry mob is watching you.

In all seriousness, there was a dude who showed up briefly a few years ago to passionately defend one of the cable companies and, when asked whether he was doing so professionally, would not give a straight answer.  So I think it's happened -- but I'm not sure I've seen any posts here that seem like Sabres PR "#blueprint" spin.

Keep an eye out for the 5th column.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:36 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 07 November 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Well, here's an interesting article showing that sports organizations do indeed visit and post on fan message boards in an attempt to spin things their way:http://www.baltimore...0,2282119.story

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I guess I'm posting this because I'm curious as to whether this goes on here.  I'm not prepared to accuse any of the DR defenders directly yet, but be forewarned:  the angry mob is watching you.

In all seriousness, there was a dude who showed up briefly a few years ago to passionately defend one of the cable companies and, when asked whether he was doing so professionally, would not give a straight answer.  So I think it's happened -- but I'm not sure I've seen any posts here that seem like Sabres PR "#blueprint" spin.

Keep an eye out for the 5th column.
Funny you bring this up as on Colbert at the beginning of the week he talked about how Fox News has done a similar thing going out into public forums and message boards, comment sections as well and actively and aggressively championing the network.  I would guess other networks do the same thing.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:36 AM

Should be simple enough to spot : I accuse anyone defending Drew Stafford :P

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:38 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 07 November 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Well, here's an interesting article showing that sports organizations do indeed visit and post on fan message boards in an attempt to spin things their way:http://www.baltimore...0,2282119.story

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I guess I'm posting this because I'm curious as to whether this goes on here.  I'm not prepared to accuse any of the DR defenders directly yet, but be forewarned:  the angry mob is watching you.

In all seriousness, there was a dude who showed up briefly a few years ago to passionately defend one of the cable companies and, when asked whether he was doing so professionally, would not give a straight answer.  So I think it's happened -- but I'm not sure I've seen any posts here that seem like Sabres PR "#blueprint" spin.

Keep an eye out for the 5th column.

I am positive there are members of the Sabres organization who post here frequently, and also on TwoBillsDrive. Are they instructed to by the Sabres, I would bet they are not. Mainly do it because they are fans as well and like to talk about their team and employer. I think over the years I have seen people that appear to be very close to both organizations posting in both positive and negative lights.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:39 AM

View Postnfreeman, on 07 November 2013 - 09:34 AM, said:

Well, here's an interesting article showing that sports organizations do indeed visit and post on fan message boards in an attempt to spin things their way:http://www.baltimore...0,2282119.story

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I guess I'm posting this because I'm curious as to whether this goes on here.  I'm not prepared to accuse any of the DR defenders directly yet, but be forewarned:  the angry mob is watching you.

In all seriousness, there was a dude who showed up briefly a few years ago to passionately defend one of the cable companies and, when asked whether he was doing so professionally, would not give a straight answer.  So I think it's happened -- but I'm not sure I've seen any posts here that seem like Sabres PR "#blueprint" spin.

Keep an eye out for the 5th column.

I have no doubt that Sabres reps, and possibly even reps from other teams, visit this forum.

Their level of interaction with the regulars is up for discussion though. We know this forum is a little bit...uh...special when it comes to how we treat newcomers, especially those who come crashing in with huge posts and strong opinions on things. If there were a Sabres rep here, trying to push a positive agenda on us, I'd imagine they'd have to keep their tone somewhat relaxed in order to avoid being completely run out of town right away.

Basically what I'm saying is this forum is Thunderdome and there's no way a Sabres rep is winning any battles around here. :P

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:44 AM

I think PTR IS DR ..........

:angel:  ... :P

I think that, if they don't have moles as members of this board, the powers that be with the Sabres read the board often.  Probably a whole team in the basement / bunker at FNC.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:45 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 November 2013 - 09:39 AM, said:

I have no doubt that Sabres reps, and possibly even reps from other teams, visit this forum.

Their level of interaction with the regulars is up for discussion though. We know this forum is a little bit...uh...special when it comes to how we treat newcomers, especially those who come crashing in with huge posts and strong opinions on things. If there were a Sabres rep here, trying to push a positive agenda on us, I'd imagine they'd have to keep their tone somewhat relaxed in order to avoid being completely run out of town right away.

Basically what I'm saying is this forum is Thunderdome and there's no way a Sabres rep is winning any battles around here. :P
Oh crap they know! :unsure: :bag:

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:46 AM

DeLuca probably works for the Maple Leafs or he might be Brenden Shanahan

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:50 AM

I absolutely think it goes on here. I also think it's pretty dumb, unless their only job is to correct misinformation. As we all know, changing someone's opinion on a message board is an exercise in futility.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:50 AM

View PostFolignosJock, on 07 November 2013 - 09:46 AM, said:

DeLuca probably works for the Maple Leafs or he might be Brenden Shanahan

Swamp designed the new third jerseys right? :P

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:58 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 November 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

Swamp designed the new third jerseys right? :P
I can't wait until they hit the ice and blow your mind at how cool they look,… what's that, Ted? Hold on a minute, I'm SabreSpacin'. What do you want me to tell'em about the 2 Russian kids sittin' again?…

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 09:59 AM

View PostSwampD, on 07 November 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:


I can't wait until they hit the ice and blow your mind at how cool they look,… what's that, Ted? Hold on a minute, I'm SabreSpacin'. What do you want me to tell'em about the 2 Russian kids sittin' again?…

:lol:

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:04 AM

View PostSwampD, on 07 November 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

I absolutely think it goes on here. I also think it's pretty dumb, unless their only job is to correct misinformation. As we all know, changing someone's opinion on a message board is an exercise in futility.

I think you should rethink this theory of yours. :)

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:07 AM

Ya don't say?

I'm not sure how many outright employees post here, but you can tell when there is a "special relationship" between a poster and members of the organization, or the organization itself many times. I guess an employee or PR guy can pose as something else, and not be over the top obvious in their defense of the team...but there aren't many that can pull that off for very long in this climate. Eventually, if you have a good memory and are observant enough, you can figure things out.

Usually when someone makes good points, and an "intelligent" poster resorts to personal insults and trying to discredit someone....that's a good clue. I really learned that on the Bills political board. People usually need to "protect" something by doing so. A job, or a friend in a job, or perks....but sometime it is just a passionate fan trying to protect their denial....which I can forgive.

I told the story before about posting on a financial message board of a company and I organized a shareholder pow-wow before I went to an annual meeting where I was going to confront management. As I was signing in at the desk, the CEO smiled and called me by my board handle as he outstretched his hand. It was actually a good icebreaker as we were both laughing. Didn't stop us from filing a hostile proxy and getting on the board.....but I learned back then how hands on things can be.

I'm absolutely positive if I was out at a bar and introduced myself as "Ghost of DD" to pretty much anyone at GR, or Bucky/Harrington, or Teddy....I'd probably get a smile, and then I'd buy them a drink. I'm not sure Darcy reads any of this....he probably would think I'm the antichrist. I'd buy him a Fuzzy Navel though.



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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:08 AM

Can't say I've seen anything obvious here but I am sure they pay attention to what the opinions are on the various frums.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:19 AM

Hmmm....
Who started posting within a few months of Black's arrival, hates Harrington and is totally on board with suffering?

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:21 AM

View Postweave, on 07 November 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

Can't say I've seen anything obvious here but I am sure they pay attention to what the opinions are on the various frums.

Absolutely. You can tell Ted Black reads the opinions and even changes his approach week to week on how he talks. This place is like a free political focus group for him. You can tell just how he will switch out different terms, or hammer home a conciliatory talking point a few times to throw the fans a bone when the heat is up. He wasn't doing that a few years ago though.....he'd be right along with a few disparaging remarks like "Negativity Bubble", and making fun of Brian Burke.....he knew the tone and mood of the fans and felt he could get away with it. Now he talks as if he is at a wake as not to make people angry if he is "cheery" as they tank, or even consciously/subconsciously for a bit of pity.

I will also bet you dollars to donuts he told Darcy to make sure he dropped a few "not to insult the fans"...and "I know the fans hurt"....in his last presser. I've known Darcy for 17 years. When he pulls stuff like that, it's like the kid buttering up the parent...and the parent knows he's about to ask to stay out late.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:23 AM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 07 November 2013 - 10:07 AM, said:

Ya don't say?

I'm not sure how many outright employees post here, but you can tell when there is a "special relationship" between a poster and members of the organization, or the organization itself many times. I guess an employee or PR guy can pose as something else, and not be over the top obvious in their defense of the team...but there aren't many that can pull that off for very long in this climate. Eventually, if you have a good memory and are observant enough, you can figure things out.

Usually when someone makes good points, and an "intelligent" poster resorts to personal insults and trying to discredit someone....that's a good clue. I really learned that on the Bills political board. People usually need to "protect" something by doing so. A job, or a friend in a job, or perks....but sometime it is just a passionate fan trying to protect their denial....which I can forgive.

I told the story before about posting on a financial message board of a company and I organized a shareholder pow-wow before I went to an annual meeting where I was going to confront management. As I was signing in at the desk, the CEO smiled and called me by my board handle as he outstretched his hand. It was actually a good icebreaker as we were both laughing. Didn't stop us from filing a hostile proxy and getting on the board.....but I learned back then how hands on things can be.

I'm absolutely positive if I was out at a bar and introduced myself as "Ghost of DD" to pretty much anyone at GR, or Bucky/Harrington, or Teddy....I'd probably get a smile, and then I'd buy them a drink. I'm not sure Darcy reads any of this....he probably would think I'm the antichrist. I'd buy him a Fuzzy Navel though.

To your point about local media types, we know a few have posted here before (or tried) and were quickly shown the door because they didn't understand how forums work. I wonder how well any of them even grasp some of the discussions we have here? You'd think someone would take a chance with the wild conspiracy theory anti-Pegula stuff, right? It's not like they aren't already muckraking.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:31 AM

View Postweave, on 07 November 2013 - 10:08 AM, said:

Can't say I've seen anything obvious here but I am sure they pay attention to what the opinions are on the various frums.

That's how I see it, too.  I actually would imagine that the organization discourages--if not outright forbids--employees from posting here.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:36 AM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 07 November 2013 - 10:21 AM, said:

Absolutely. You can tell Ted Black reads the opinions and even changes his approach week to week on how he talks. This place is like a free political focus group for him. You can tell just how he will switch out different terms, or hammer home a conciliatory talking point a few times to throw the fans a bone when the heat is up. He wasn't doing that a few years ago though.....he'd be right along with a few disparaging remarks like "Negativity Bubble", and making fun of Brian Burke.....he knew the tone and mood of the fans and felt he could get away with it. Now he talks as if he is at a wake as not to make people angry if he is "cheery" as they tank, or even consciously/subconsciously for a bit of pity.

I will also bet you dollars to donuts he told Darcy to make sure he dropped a few "not to insult the fans"...and "I know the fans hurt"....in his last presser. I've known Darcy for 17 years. When he pulls stuff like that, it's like the kid buttering up the parent...and the parent knows he's about to ask to stay out late.
Wonder if Rational Loss Theory helped to lead the Sabres management to Tank Nation and the idea that they needed to bottom out because the simply lacked the high end talent to win... That was a huge topic on this board this past year and obviously this year.

If they do read occasionally it wouldn't be surprising.  This is probably the best analysis and discussion about the team outside of the actual meetings DR and company have with eachother.  Hell we even have advance stats here.  I actually am fairly certain that a group of posters from here could run the team as Gm better than what is currently going on.  I will not say who because we don't need the egos boasted but I think 5-10 on here could make an effective GM Board.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:40 AM

There is only one I know of.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:41 AM

There is no better example than Amerks6 (or was it Amerks8?).  I miss Taro's interactions with him.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:47 AM

View Postshrader, on 07 November 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

There is no better example than Amerks6 (or was it Amerks8?).  I miss Taro's interactions with him.

I'm still convinced that dude really was Steve Donner.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:49 AM

There was a very well-spoken, considered new poster who showed up here a few months ago, whose voice seemed ... well, I had my suspicions. He hasn't posted in a dog's age, but his profile shows that he's been lurking.


On further review, he's a buddy of Vanek-Man's, so there goes that theory.

I think. :huh:

EDIT: If anyone does post here on behalf of the franchise, I suspect they're a member of (intern at) an outside PR firm, not someone in-house.

Edited by That Aud Smell, 07 November 2013 - 10:51 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:53 AM

View Postshrader, on 07 November 2013 - 10:41 AM, said:

There is no better example than Amerks6 (or was it Amerks8?).  I miss Taro's interactions with him.

6. But yeah, those were epic...

I'd be really surprised if there not at least one intern/low-level PR hack that is tasked with reading this board on a daily basis.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:54 AM

Ok 2.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 10:56 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 07 November 2013 - 10:54 AM, said:

Ok 2.

So you think Kanalley (sp) is reading this board?

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:04 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 November 2013 - 10:56 AM, said:

So you think Kanalley (sp) is reading this board?

Fo sho.

In fact, he was the guy I suspected being behind the account I described above. The timing was right, too, when it came to his being hired away from Gawker  HuffPo and the poster joining this board.

Edited by That Aud Smell, 07 November 2013 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:06 AM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 07 November 2013 - 11:04 AM, said:

Fo sho.

In fact, he was the guy I suspected being behind the account I described above. The timing was right, too, when it came to his being hired away from Gawker and the poster joining this board.

What was his user name?

I get the feeling that Craig doesn't quite have the ego/chutzpah to hang here as a poster. I'm sure he's smart though.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:10 AM

Damn. I've been outed.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:10 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 November 2013 - 10:23 AM, said:



To your point about local media types, we know a few have posted here before (or tried) and were quickly shown the door because they didn't understand how forums work. I wonder how well any of them even grasp some of the discussions we have here? You'd think someone would take a chance with the wild conspiracy theory anti-Pegula stuff, right? It's not like they aren't already muckraking.

Over the years I have seen what I believe is the media/radio running with stuff on here. They are all respectful for the most part in how they do it. There may be issues where the subject is a little off the norm, and they gain confidence if they see it talked about here. Hamilton has said stuff with confidence that I firmly believes he believed himself, but opinion here gave him cover. Schopp will use things for discussion, but will almost do a 180 on how he attacks the subject to make it his own and not blatantly lift an idea. Bulldog will talk and either support or counter something directly worded from here. Gleason will use this as a temperature taker, and use his own writing style to build around the mood or a few points. It's all good in my opinion. I don't see or hear everyone, so not sure who else may use this place as a tool.

We can say stuff here that those guys probably don't want to chance saying. Not to sound like a total narcissist D-bag, but I always try to be truthful and entertaining as I present some things that many wouldn't usually think about. I would hope the media guys would enjoy my posts...sometimes they may agree or be intrigued and look into something....sometimes they may think I'm a nutbag...but I try to say the things they probably wish they could say without risking their jobs. Now as a member of a posting community.....that makes me over the top at times...but for them I hope it's a little bit of a guilty pleasure.

I know you have said in the past that we have no control over things here so we can't bring about change. I totally disagree. We know this team and the personalities involved. When I speculate that Bob McKenzie has preferred status with the Sabres because of his fluff piece on Pegula during the Penn St. scandal where he totally ignored Benson....people will scoff. But then I hear Teddy on GR joking about twitter, and he gave up the golden goose. I find Ted, and the first 3 follows are LeBrun, McKenzie, THEN the Buffalo Sabres. Sure it's a little bit of psychology and reading things, but the breadcrumbs are there. If you can identify things.....then just like the reasoning behind this thread....it makes sense for the Sabres to control the dialogue about the team....and what better way to do so than through the media? Wawrow used to do it for Quinn in my opinion. When you start to put things together, and can then say "I see you!!!"....and enough of the public catches on over time to where what seems like outlandish opinion about someone or something at first is eventually revealed as fact...well, then something may have to be done.

Many posters here have wondered how I myself can be so seemingly negative about the team for so long and still show up. It is because the truth eventually always comes out if enough people are willing to see it. A lot of stuff is opinion, but there are plenty of facts that form it. I don't think Darcy Regier is a bad person. He is a survivor first and foremost when it comes to his job though. Does he want to win a Stanley Cup? Sure...that would be nice.....but goal #1 has always been to never take a big enough chance to make a fire-worthy mistake. It's only through exposing facts over time that maybe...just maybe...if there is any logic up top....we see a change.

We WILL....outlast the oppression, and eventually see a Free State of Sabredom once again!!!

Oh sh!t....I'm out of coffee......

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:16 AM

I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the Sabres Organization.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:19 AM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 07 November 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

I am not now, nor have I ever been a member of the Sabres Organization.

So the company you work for contracts you out to the Sabres?  :)

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:22 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 November 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

What was his user name?

I get the feeling that Craig doesn't quite have the ego/chutzpah to hang here as a poster. I'm sure he's smart though.

I'm gonna let that sleeping dog lie, especially now that I see V-M described him as a friend IRL.

In terms of ego/chutzpah, I never saw that as a criterion for being an active poster here.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:23 AM

How many of you wouldn't be interested in working for the Sabres organization?

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:26 AM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 07 November 2013 - 11:22 AM, said:

I'm gonna let that sleeping dog lie, especially now that I see V-M described him as a friend IRL.

In terms of ego/chutzpah, I never saw that as a criterion for being an active poster here.

To expand on the last part, you have to be the kind of person who isn't afraid of voicing opinions and then defending them. Not everyone wants to do that or is comfortable doing that.

We're all comfortable because we've been here forever. But this place is quite a challenge to anyone who perhaps isn't ready for a fight.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:28 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 07 November 2013 - 11:26 AM, said:

To expand on the last part, you have to be the kind of person who isn't afraid of voicing opinions and then defending them. Not everyone wants to do that or is comfortable doing that.

We're all comfortable because we've been here forever. But this place is quite a challenge to anyone who perhaps isn't ready for a fight.

You have no basis for this nonsense. You've again pull some crazy theory out of thin are and are just trying to repeat it until it becomes "true-ish". Go away, no one will miss you. (We'll keep Josie)

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:29 AM

All organizations of any size strategically monitor what is said about their product(s) on popular public forums.  Some interject on the various outlets (several companies that I work with have people specifically assigned to monitor Internet public opinion).  But, I can guarantee that those at various levels of the Sabres organization have monitored this board.  Have they posted?  Maybe... but monitoring Internet forums is sort of a standard marketing practice these days.  And, I'd be shocked if all professional teams didn't do this.

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:33 AM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 07 November 2013 - 11:28 AM, said:

You have no basis for this nonsense. You've again pull some crazy theory out of thin are and are just trying to repeat it until it becomes "true-ish". Go away, no one will miss you. (We'll keep Josie)

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Posted 07 November 2013 - 11:36 AM

View PostKristian, on 07 November 2013 - 09:36 AM, said:

Should be simple enough to spot : I accuse anyone defending Drew Stafford :P
TrueBlue hasn't posted in this thread yet...  Weird for his high frequency of posts.  Maybe one of his "classes" is in session.

Almost every post is trying to influence the reader in some way.  Sometimes it's influencing the reader to think harder, sometimes its narrative-driven.  Anybody with organizational ties would be outed like the cable guy and Donner the Hut. We're just too special as d4rk put it :lol: