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Posted 26 September 2013 - 10:25 PM

Just got an email from the Sabres saying there are "plenty of good seats" available for the season opener.  What used to be one of the toughest tickets of the year you can still stroll up to the box office and buy them a week out from the game.  And this after the Sabres increased the number of season tickets sold.  So how many tickets are left per game now?  3,000?  And the Sabres can't sell 'em?  Wow.

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Posted 26 September 2013 - 11:26 PM

Single seats. Just ask the mini pack holders.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 12:03 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 26 September 2013 - 11:26 PM, said:

Single seats. Just ask the mini pack holders.
"Plenty" of "good" seats......so are they lying about how many season tickets sold, or are they scumbag lawyers for their description of available seats?.........

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 01:06 AM

You can go online and see a live map of the seats available to each game.  Lots of single seats, mainly, except way up in the cobweb and nosebleed sections where there may be a row, or good chunks of a row.

It depends on your interpretation of "good"; the sauce needs more cooking before i would consider what's available "good".

Of course, I can still recall not being so discriminate; each Sabre game, at the time, was worth sitting in those seats for.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 06:01 AM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 27 September 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:


It depends on your interpretation of "good"; the sauce needs more cooking before i would consider what's available "good".

To the ticket sales staff, the interpretation of "good" is "unsold".

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 07:11 AM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 27 September 2013 - 01:06 AM, said:

You can go online and see a live map of the seats available to each game.  Lots of single seats, mainly, except way up in the cobweb and nosebleed sections where there may be a row, or good chunks of a row.

It depends on your interpretation of "good"; the sauce needs more cooking before i would consider what's available "good".

Of course, I can still recall not being so discriminate; each Sabre game, at the time, was worth sitting in those seats for.

When was that?  1970?  Be that as it may, having unsold seats a week out from opening day is surprising to me.  

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:12 PM

Ah, yes, the Drane Conundrum. It seems like these guys are content to feed off Chet and Muffy. That's why Regier is still here, and the product is just mediocre enough to satisfy the people who don't know, or don't care. See Drive: One Bills.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 02:32 PM

View PostPASabreFan, on 27 September 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

Ah, yes, the Drane Conundrum. It seems like these guys are content to feed off Chet and Muffy. That's why Regier is still here, and the product is just mediocre enough to satisfy the people who don't know, or don't care. See Drive: One Bills.

yeah. regrettably, this is a modern phenomenon in all pro sports.

not sure what the team expected after the theme of the off-season was "some suffering."

in fact ... man, that is the antidote to this #Blueprint nonsense: #SomeSuffering

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 03:36 PM

I was gratified to see the FNC full-up for a pre-season game...but of course, that was against Toronto last Saturday and Leaf fans nearly outnumbered Sabre fans.  The FNC crowd for the Blue Jackets game was much more sparse.  Well, it WAS a pre-season game.....

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:30 PM

View PostPASabreFan, on 27 September 2013 - 02:12 PM, said:

Ah, yes, the Drane Conundrum. It seems like these guys are content to feed off Chet and Muffy. That's why Regier is still here, and the product is just mediocre enough to satisfy the people who don't know, or don't care. See Drive: One Bills.

Great. Not even into the first game yet and you're railing against Chet and Muffy. For some reason this title always offends me.
I guess because sit in Clubs at the stadium and the arena. At least I did. I let my Bills tickets go this year. In no way shape or form do I resemble Chet nor the wife Muffy.
Be happy to meet at the 2nd floor bar after a game to prove it. Chets don't wears jerseys and lose their voice. Even in a deathly quiet arena. But I do.

So here's the funny thing, even amidst what you and your ilk believe to be the darkest days of the organization, people are buying tickets. 97% season ticket renewal rate? Surely Chet and Muffy can't be filling all those seats are they? And to one of your ilk who is about to post oh but those are subsidized prices etc etc etc Shut Up.
My invoice is pretty ridiculous in a non Chet and Muffy type town.




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Posted 27 September 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostSabre Dance, on 27 September 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

I was gratified to see the FNC full-up for a pre-season game...but of course, that was against Toronto last Saturday and Leaf fans nearly outnumbered Sabre fans.  The FNC crowd for the Blue Jackets game was much more sparse.  Well, it WAS a pre-season game.....

First home game vs. Carolina was pretty full too.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:07 PM

View Postbeerme1, on 27 September 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

Great. Not even into the first game yet and you're railing against Chet and Muffy. For some reason this title always offends me.
I guess because sit in Clubs at the stadium and the arena. At least I did. I let my Bills tickets go this year. In no way shape or form do I resemble Chet nor the wife Muffy.
Be happy to meet at the 2nd floor bar after a game to prove it. Chets don't wears jerseys and lose their voice. Even in a deathly quiet arena. But I do.

So here's the funny thing, even amidst what you and your ilk believe to be the darkest days of the organization, people are buying tickets. 97% season ticket renewal rate? Surely Chet and Muffy can't be filling all those seats are they? And to one of your ilk who is about to post oh but those are subsidized prices etc etc etc Shut Up.
My invoice is pretty ridiculous in a non Chet and Muffy type town.
Elk jerky is by far my favorite........so.....supposedly 16,000 season tickets sold, then mini packs went on sale to the public, and the waiting list for season tickets INCREASED to around the 2,000 level....yet there are between 1,000 and 1,700 seats available to VALUE games.....which are priced $5 more than season tickets in many of the available seats.....in an arena with a capacity of 18,700. So that means that even with 2,000 people DYING to pay for every game this season, and new mini pack sales....they were only able to sell 1,000 single seats so far to some of those games? 16,000 of 16,000 diehards.....and 1,000 of say anywhere from 1,000,000...to 10,000,000 other folk if we include Rochester and Southern Ontario? Hmnnnnn.....a conundrum it is.........................and yes, your invoice is ridiculous in a non Chet and Muffy town.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:18 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 27 September 2013 - 10:07 PM, said:


Elk jerky is by far my favorite........so.....supposedly 16,000 season tickets sold, then mini packs went on sale to the public, and the waiting list for season tickets INCREASED to around the 2,000 level....yet there are between 1,000 and 1,700 seats available to VALUE games.....which are priced $5 more than season tickets in many of the available seats.....in an arena with a capacity of 18,700. So that means that even with 2,000 people DYING to pay for every game this season, and new mini pack sales....they were only able to sell 1,000 single seats so far to some of those games? 16,000 of 16,000 diehards.....and 1,000 of say anywhere from 1,000,000...to 10,000,000 other folk if we include Rochester and Southern Ontario? Hmnnnnn.....a conundrum it is.........................and yes, your invoice is ridiculous in a non Chet and Muffy town.

Or maybe people like to go to hockey games with their friends and sitting alone with strangers defeats the purpose? You realize these are social events right?

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:22 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 27 September 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:



Or maybe people like to go to hockey games with their friends and sitting alone with strangers defeats the purpose? You realize these are social events right?

Hard to tell these days.  Social event, like a funeral with a mime as hired entertainment.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:23 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 27 September 2013 - 10:18 PM, said:



Or maybe people like to go to hockey games with their friends and sitting alone with strangers defeats the purpose? You realize these are social events right?
???? You and 100 of your closest friends can sit together for the games I am talking about. The cheapest games of the year which are pretty much season ticket prices have 5 whole rows together in the 300's. $31 bucks baby.....for Sabres hockey....it's a steal? How come those 2,000 on the waiting list haven't scooped up those seats? I'm confused........

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 10:57 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 27 September 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

???? You and 100 of your closest friends can sit together for the games I am talking about. The cheapest games of the year which are pretty much season ticket prices have 5 whole rows together in the 300's. $31 bucks baby.....for Sabres hockey....it's a steal? How come those 2,000 on the waiting list haven't scooped up those seats? I'm confused........

Maybe they don't want to sit in the 300s?

Think a little harder. You'll stop saying stupid ######.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 27 September 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:



Maybe they don't want to sit in the 300s?

Think a little harder. You'll stop saying stupid ######.
They want to be able to smell the eau de parfum under Cody's jersey?

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Maybe they don't want to sit in the 300s?

Think a little harder. You'll stop saying stupid ######.
So they don't have $30 for 5 games, but have $100 for 40 games??

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Maybe they don't want to sit in the 300s?

Think a little harder. You'll stop saying stupid ######.
Buffalo corporations treat Sabres tickets like Hickory Farms sausage and cheese logs and pay up for them even though they have the nutritional value of cardboard?

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

I know when I am in the 300's, I miss the convenience of having a waitress get me drinks and food during the game, not to mention the enhanced menu options, the easy to navigate corridors, the quick turn-around time in the bathrooms, and the near guarantee that Sabretooth will be close enough to my section and my kids stand a much better chance (than those in the 300s) of catching some swag from the swag-cannon.

While in the 300s, when I'm not grossed-out trying to determine what the sticky stuff is on the floor beneath my cold, hard, terribly uncomfortable seat, I try to fight off the feelings of vertigo and that I will fall forward down into the 100's. As I squint towards the opposite net in the hopes I can make out which player has the puck, or as I catch myself watching most of the action on the so-called "Jumbotron", sometimes it occurs to me that I could have saved the $35 a ticket, high-priced soda and popcorn, and parking fees and, instead, stayed home and watch the game there.



Edited by sizzlemeister, 27 September 2013 - 11:13 PM.


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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:07 PM

View Postbeerme1, on 27 September 2013 - 09:30 PM, said:

Great. Not even into the first game yet and you're railing against Chet and Muffy. For some reason this title always offends me.
I guess because sit in Clubs at the stadium and the arena. At least I did. I let my Bills tickets go this year. In no way shape or form do I resemble Chet nor the wife Muffy.
Be happy to meet at the 2nd floor bar after a game to prove it. Chets don't wears jerseys and lose their voice. Even in a deathly quiet arena. But I do.

So here's the funny thing, even amidst what you and your ilk believe to be the darkest days of the organization, people are buying tickets. 97% season ticket renewal rate? Surely Chet and Muffy can't be filling all those seats are they? And to one of your ilk who is about to post oh but those are subsidized prices etc etc etc Shut Up.
My invoice is pretty ridiculous in a non Chet and Muffy type town.

The whole Chet - Muffy thing is pretty ridiculous.  I'm not sure why spending more of your disposable income on hockey should be cause for resentment.

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Posted 27 September 2013 - 11:12 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 27 September 2013 - 10:57 PM, said:



Maybe they don't want to sit in the 300s?

Think a little harder. You'll stop saying stupid ######.
For the love of Jesus...the CHILDREN can't see from up there!!!

View Postsizzlemeister, on 27 September 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

I know when I am in the 300's, I miss the convenience of having a waitress get me drinks and food during the game, not to mention the enhanced menu options, the easy to navigate corridors, the quick turn-around time in the bathrooms, and the near guarantee that Sabretooth will be near enough to my section and my kids stand a much better chance (than those in the 300s) of catching some swag from the swag-cannon.
16,000 of 16,000 for 40 games........1,000 of 2,000,000+ not for 1 game? The Bills split 50/50 for their games pretty much. Numbers don't add up...2,000 on the waiting list........I understand an individual case. Me myself, wouldn't get caught dead paying $100 for every Sabres game. 1, possibly depending on the circumstances. And the children comment was before I saw your post!

Edited by Ghost of Dwight Drane, 27 September 2013 - 11:12 PM.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 09:10 AM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 27 September 2013 - 10:22 PM, said:

Hard to tell these days.  Social event, like a funeral with a mime as hired entertainment.

I'm so sorry for your loss. To the Panthers.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 10:47 AM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 27 September 2013 - 11:07 PM, said:

I know when I am in the 300's, I miss the convenience of having a waitress get me drinks and food during the game, not to mention the enhanced menu options, the easy to navigate corridors, the quick turn-around time in the bathrooms, and the near guarantee that Sabretooth will be close enough to my section and my kids stand a much better chance (than those in the 300s) of catching some swag from the swag-cannon.

While in the 300s, when I'm not grossed-out trying to determine what the sticky stuff is on the floor beneath my cold, hard, terribly uncomfortable seat, I try to fight off the feelings of vertigo and that I will fall forward down into the 100's. As I squint towards the opposite net in the hopes I can make out which player has the puck, or as I catch myself watching most of the action on the so-called "Jumbotron", sometimes it occurs to me that I could have saved the $35 a ticket, high-priced soda and popcorn, and parking fees and, instead, stayed home and watch the game there.
Please tell me you're being facetious.

In my entire life, I think I've sat lower than the 300 level maybe 5 times.  And apparently I never caught the memo about what a horrible nightmarish experience it is up there.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 11:07 AM

View PostRobviously, on 28 September 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:

Please tell me you're being facetious.

In my entire life, I think I've sat lower than the 300 level maybe 5 times.  And apparently I never caught the memo about what a horrible nightmarish experience it is up there.

[whisper]

psst........ he's Chet.

[/whisper]

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 12:49 PM

View Postweave, on 28 September 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:



[whisper]

psst........ he's Chet.

[/whisper]

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:02 PM

View Postweave, on 28 September 2013 - 11:07 AM, said:



[whisper]

psst........ he's Chet.

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Pretty sure its Chester, actually.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:14 PM

View PostRobviously, on 28 September 2013 - 10:47 AM, said:


Please tell me you're being facetious.

In my entire life, I think I've sat lower than the 300 level maybe 5 times.  And apparently I never caught the memo about what a horrible nightmarish experience it is up there.

Funny thing is, most of the stuff Sizzle listed I dislike. Waitress and enhanced menu options? I'm at a friggin hockey game, not a restaurant. Only thing I want to eat at a sporting event is a tray of nachos.


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Posted 28 September 2013 - 01:23 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 28 September 2013 - 01:14 PM, said:



Funny thing is, most of the stuff Sizzle listed I dislike. Waitress and enhanced menu options? I'm at a friggin hockey game, not a restaurant. Only thing I want to eat at a sporting event is a tray of nachos.

Only thing I want to eat is beer! I'm eating before the game so I don't need to waste 2 hands with nachos. Beer and screaming at opposing players/refs/Drew Stafford. That's how I roll in the sticky floored, hard seated 300's with my fellow mouth breathers and unwashed masses.


Unless I'm with the family, then its a strict 1 beer policy, and I'll leave the game with my voice mostly intact.

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 05:45 PM

Where is a good picture depicting a point going over people's heads when you need it?

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Posted 28 September 2013 - 05:51 PM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 28 September 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Where is a good picture depicting a point going over people's heads when you need it?
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Posted 28 September 2013 - 06:49 PM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 28 September 2013 - 05:45 PM, said:

Where is a good picture depicting a point going over people's heads when you need it?
I seriously still can't tell if you were joking or not.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 02:02 AM

Fans are not buying tickets.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 07:28 AM

View PostAndrew Amerk, on 29 September 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

Fans are not buying tickets.

31 posts into the thread, it was necessary to repeat the title?

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:26 AM

View PostAndrew Amerk, on 29 September 2013 - 02:02 AM, said:

Fans are not buying tickets.

Good. All they'd do is sit there oscillating and blowing air around.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:50 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 29 September 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

Good. All they'd do is sit there oscillating and blowing air around.

The Chet & Muffy fans don't even have blades now.

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 09:57 AM

View Postnobody, on 29 September 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:

The Chet & Muffy fans don't even have blades now.

They do, but they require at least 75 different varieties to choose from. And they must be installed by a professional, preferably an attractive female in a short skirt who recognizes her subordinate place in the world.

(sarcasm detector test is now complete)

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Posted 29 September 2013 - 10:04 AM

View Postnobody, on 29 September 2013 - 09:50 AM, said:



The Chet & Muffy fans don't even have blades now.


:lol:

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Posted 30 September 2013 - 10:28 AM

I count 437 seats left.  Only 27 in the lower bowl.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 03:49 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 27 September 2013 - 10:23 PM, said:

???? You and 100 of your closest friends can sit together for the games I am talking about. The cheapest games of the year which are pretty much season ticket prices have 5 whole rows together in the 300's. $31 bucks baby.....for Sabres hockey....it's a steal? How come those 2,000 on the waiting list haven't scooped up those seats? I'm confused........

Hey Liberace!  I am one of those 2000.  Actually 947 or something (been on the list for 3 years), live in Rochester.  Have you seen when those value games are played?  Middle of the week.  Yeah sign me up for that.

So your retort will be something like this,  "Well you have signed up to buy those games as a season ticket holder?"  

My reply, "Yeah my brother in law and I were going to split the games in half and the 10-15 games I don't go to will be sold on StubHub.  Also the ones I can make a good buck on, Dallas, Chicago  anything Canada would be sold to hopefully pay for those VALUE games on a Wednesday night."

This conversation just bugs me, it seems as Buffalo fans we have to find something to bitch about.

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:24 PM

View PostScotty, on 01 October 2013 - 03:49 PM, said:

This conversation just bugs me, it seems as Buffalo fans we have to find something to bitch about.
so your saying you know us?

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Posted 01 October 2013 - 11:31 PM

View PostSpndnchz, on 30 September 2013 - 10:28 AM, said:

I count 437 seats left.  Only 27 in the lower bowl.
Well that just proves that the ####ing ###hole Sabres fans are fair weather fans. :doh:

I am sooooooo not looking forward to this season and discussions about said.