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#1 Neuvirths Glove

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 11:10 PM

Discuss.

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 11:22 PM

If it's me, it's Vanek with Ott as his chief lieutenant.
The perfectionist and the no-holds-barred optimist
Doesn't matter to me that they are in their last contract year.
More importantly, it doesn't matter to Rolston.

I'd give the other A to the guy they would like to groom as the most likely leader among the young guys — most likely Hodgson.

Edited by dudacek, 20 September 2013 - 01:11 AM.


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Posted 19 September 2013 - 11:37 PM

I would also give it to vanek. Holds himself to high standard and should be a good example to the young uns. A's to Ott and Weber.

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Posted 19 September 2013 - 11:51 PM

Vanek gets it and that cements his exit from Buffalo. Just like Drury, Danny, Rivet, and Pomenville. It happens so often they even mention it in NHL video games.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:33 AM

View Postubkev, on 19 September 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Vanek gets it and that cements his exit from Buffalo. Just like Drury, Danny, Rivet, and Pomenville. It happens so often they even mention it in NHL video games.

They mention this about the sabres? :D

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:27 AM

View Postdudacek, on 19 September 2013 - 11:22 PM, said:

If it's me, it's Vanek with Ott as his chief lieutenant.
The perfectionist and the no-holds-barred optimist
Doesn't matter to me that they are in their last contract year.
More importantly, it doesn't matter to Rolston.

I'd give the other A to the guy they would like to groom as the most likely leader among the young guys — most likely Hodgson.

I agree with this.

View Postubkev, on 19 September 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Vanek gets it and that cements his exit from Buffalo. Just like Drury, Danny, Rivet, and Pomenville. It happens so often they even mention it in NHL video games.

And sadly, I may also agree with this :(

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:41 AM

View Postubkev, on 19 September 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

Vanek gets it and that cements his exit from Buffalo. Just like Drury, Danny, Rivet, and Pomenville. It happens so often they even mention it in NHL video games.
Did our pomminstein autocorrect get erased?

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 02:35 AM

View Postinkman, on 20 September 2013 - 01:41 AM, said:


Did our pomminstein autocorrect get erased?

I think that's only of you misspell it with 2 M's. I misspelled it with a wrong vowel.   Doh

Edit: I'd like to blame the phone, but I'm better than that lol.

Edited by ubkev, 20 September 2013 - 02:36 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 03:34 AM

Vanek has never struck me as Captain material.  I say give it to Ott.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:19 AM

View Postwjag, on 20 September 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

Vanek has never struck me as Captain material.  I say give it to Ott.

Just curious, why not?

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 06:35 AM

View Postbillsrcursed, on 20 September 2013 - 06:19 AM, said:

Just curious, why not?

Culmlative opinion based on watching him over the years and personal bias.

Do you ever wonder why he NEVER gets interviewed between periods?  I do.   He pouts when it isn't going well.  I think a Captain leads.  He strikes me as the anti-Captain.  I want a strong personality to be in charge,  Precisely why I hated the Pominville selection.  I think teams should channel their Captain.  Ott strikes me as a natural Captain.  Vanek is a heckuva hockey player, just not a Captain.

Edited by wjag, 20 September 2013 - 07:46 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:17 AM

Jack Sparrow.  (Sorry, yesterday was International Talk Like a Pirate Day.  Savvy?)

Seriously, Otter.  He's got the fire in the belly and I think the younger guys already look up to him.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 07:32 AM

Vanek Captain: I think he quietly is the leader of this team.

Ott Assistant:  Obvious reasons

Pick a young guy and make him the other assistant.  I think Stafford should lose his A for now. He needs to focus on his game.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:09 AM

Not Vanek.  He has one foot out the door.  It's gotta be someone who's psyched to be here.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:24 AM

I'll throw this out there:  Forget about whether a player is in the last year of a contract.  Pick the best captain for this year.  If they leave, they leave, regardless of whether they were named captain.

View Postwjag, on 20 September 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:



Culmlative opinion based on watching him over the years and personal bias.

Do you ever wonder why he NEVER gets interviewed between periods?  I do.   He pouts when it isn't going well.

He pouts when it's going well, too.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:37 AM

Can we have four A's?

Vanek
Hodgson
Ott
Weber

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:40 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 20 September 2013 - 08:37 AM, said:

Can we have four A's?

Vanek
Hodgson
Ott
Weber

Lindy? ;)

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:42 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 20 September 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:



Lindy? ;)

I just can't pick three!

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:44 AM

Not that I have any clue, but I don't see a captain yet. Maybe one will emerge out of the viscous vapidity left behind from having Ruff as our captain for so many years

EDIT: TB you beat me to it.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:55 AM

View Postwjag, on 20 September 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

Culmlative opinion based on watching him over the years and personal bias.

Do you ever wonder why he NEVER gets interviewed between periods?  I do.   He pouts when it isn't going well.  I think a Captain leads.  He strikes me as the anti-Captain.  I want a strong personality to be in charge,  Precisely why I hated the Pominville selection.  I think teams should channel their Captain.  Ott strikes me as a natural Captain.  Vanek is a heckuva hockey player, just not a Captain.

Vanek holds on too tight enough as it is.  Let him create and just play hockey.  If he needs the A as an honorarium (and I doubt he does), give it to him, but by all means, do not make him the captain.

View PostSwampD, on 20 September 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Not that I have any clue, but I don't see a captain yet. Maybe one will emerge out of the viscous vapidity left behind from having Ruff as our captain for so many years

EDIT: TB you beat me to it.

Silliness.

Your captain:  Christian Ehrhoff.  EDIT:  And then we can have more auto-correct fun.

Edited by Eleven, 20 September 2013 - 08:56 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 08:57 AM

View PostSwampD, on 20 September 2013 - 08:44 AM, said:

Not that I have any clue, but I don't see a captain yet. Maybe one will emerge out of the viscous vapidity left behind from having Ruff as our captain for so many years

EDIT: TB you beat me to it.

I feel like we're at that tenuous stage where the last pieces of the old guard are almost out the door. We have to honor them till they move on and then we can slap letters on our new core. If we start doing it now it would be awkward. "Sorry Thomas, we're giving your C to Cody".



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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:22 AM

View PostEleven, on 20 September 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

Silliness.

I guess we'll all find out together.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:44 AM

I agree with those that think Vanek is too moody to be a captain. There's a difference between being pissed at the way the team is performing and being visibly frustrated with how things are going for you on the ice.

Ott for the C until Girgs is ready. And there is no doubt in my mind that Girgs will be ready sooner than later. You just can't teach the will to block shots when you are 11 goals down in a game. Hodgson may not like being an "A" so he will just have to duck when Girgs chucks the boombox across the room after a poor effort by the boys.

GO SABRES!!!

Edited by K-9, 20 September 2013 - 09:53 AM.


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Posted 20 September 2013 - 09:47 AM

View Postwjag, on 20 September 2013 - 03:34 AM, said:

Vanek has never struck me as Captain material.  I say give it to Ott.

View Postwjag, on 20 September 2013 - 06:35 AM, said:

Culmlative opinion based on watching him over the years and personal bias.

Do you ever wonder why he NEVER gets interviewed between periods?  I do.   He pouts when it isn't going well.  I think a Captain leads.  He strikes me as the anti-Captain.  I want a strong personality to be in charge,  Precisely why I hated the Pominville selection.  I think teams should channel their Captain.  Ott strikes me as a natural Captain.  Vanek is a heckuva hockey player, just not a Captain.

View PostEleven, on 20 September 2013 - 08:55 AM, said:

Vanek holds on too tight enough as it is.  Let him create and just play hockey.  If he needs the A as an honorarium (and I doubt he does), give it to him, but by all means, do not make him the captain.

Agreed with wjag and 11.  While Vanek is clearly our most talented player and I appreciate that he cares enough to get frustrated with himself when he's not producing, I don't think he'd make a good captain.  You can't rally the troops when you're too busy making Vanek-face and beating yourself up.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:00 AM

C: Vanek (It's about time, he deserves it).
A: Ott (Clear choice).
A: Foligno (start him up now, make him captain a few years down the road).

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:23 AM

View Postbiodork, on 20 September 2013 - 09:47 AM, said:

Agreed with wjag and 11.  While Vanek is clearly our most talented player and I appreciate that he cares enough to get frustrated with himself when he's not producing, I don't think he'd make a good captain.  You can't rally the troops when you're too busy making Vanek-face and beating yourself up.
i agree with not giving the C to Vanek

Most people always want to give it to the most skilled player all the time and think that just because he is the most skilled he should be the leader, but vanek has never struck me as a Leader type. I'm not saying that as a bad thing though, there are just some who are not leaders out there. i can't picture him as a take charge of the room and rally the troops kind of guy. He comes accross more as the quiet, gets the job done on his own type guy.

Now, I also don't think it really matters who the captain is, and believe that putting a C on any player isn't going to change how the team plays on the ice. You don't need a C or and A on your jersey to speak up and rally the guys to win, and if you do, theres something wrong.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:41 AM

If we're trying to resign him then Vanek.  If Vanek is as good as gone then Ott.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 10:43 AM

BTW, Tallinder had an "A" last night.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:08 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 20 September 2013 - 10:43 AM, said:

BTW, Tallinder had an "A" last night.

Not that it's going to happen, but how fun would this place be if Tallinder got the C this year? :lol:

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:14 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 20 September 2013 - 11:08 AM, said:



Not that it's going to happen, but how fun would this place be if Tallinder got the C this year? :lol:

Still not as awful as the new thirds.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:16 AM

I could see them going with a C and four A's - two for home and two for road.  This would spread the warm fuzzies throughout the locker room.  My guess would be:

C - Vanek
A1 - Ott
A1 - Weber
A2 - Stafford
A2 - Ehrhoff

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 11:25 AM

C - Ott - I like what wjag said above.  A team should be channeled through its captain.  Ott has a natural energy to him and reminds me of a Briere, go-tema-go kinda guy in interviews.  I have to believe that same attitude comes out in the locker room too.

A - Vanek - Veteran team leader at this point.  However, due to language barrier or just plain personality differences I don't think he expresses himself well.  Again, I think this probably translates to the locker room as well.

A - Weber - He's really come into his own with the Sabres organization and is a great example to younger Sabres regarding teammate protection (ie facewashing people like Carcillo when they get in Miller's crease).

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 12:28 PM

While I think the anti-Vanek sentiments have merit, I also think they are more about the 26-year-old Thomas Vanek than today's.
I think he is ready to take this step.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:04 PM

View Postdudacek, on 20 September 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

While I think the anti-Vanek sentiments have merit, I also think they are more about the 26-year-old Thomas Vanek than today's.
I think he is ready to take this step.

I agree. I also think he wants it. At least it seemed that way back when Ruff gave it to Pommer. Whether that makes him a good leader or not I don't know,  but it wouldn't be reluctant leadership. Didn't Ott also say something last year to the effect of Vanek being the team leader?

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 01:49 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 20 September 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:



I agree. I also think he wants it. At least it seemed that way back when Ruff gave it to Pommer. Whether that makes him a good leader or not I don't know,  but it wouldn't be reluctant leadership. Didn't Ott also say something last year to the effect of Vanek being the team leader?

I think he is. And I think Ott would throw himself in front of a bus for Thomas.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:33 PM

I would like Vanek as captain, but only with a contract extension.

Ott is a very good choice ( needs cotract extension), but i also would like Ehrhoff.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 04:59 PM

I think it should be Vanek. I also think we are going to see a different Vanek this year. It was no secret that Ruff rode him hard (that doesn't sound good) and they didn't get along, and I really think that hampered his play. I'm hoping Vanek plays even better under Rolston because I think Rolston will treat him better.

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Posted 20 September 2013 - 05:46 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 20 September 2013 - 08:40 AM, said:

Lindy? ;)

Lindy just named his captain.  It's Jamie Benn.

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 20 September 2013 - 01:04 PM, said:

Didn't Ott also say something last year to the effect of Vanek being the team leader?

That says more about Ott than it does about Vanek.

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Posted 21 September 2013 - 06:26 AM

C = Weber

A = Ott

A = Ehrhoff

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Posted 25 September 2013 - 08:53 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 21 September 2013 - 06:26 AM, said:

C = Weber

A = Ott

A = Ehrhoff

Spent some time thinking about this, this morning.  I could get behind Weber as a captain.  This team has had three "mean" captains in its history.  Excluding the one who was at the end of his career (Rivet), the team made the finals each of the other two times.  And as I've said before, I like Weber's brand of "mean."  He may not be the most talented defenseman on the team, but I'm not so sure that Schony was, either.