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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:26 AM

Final 2013-2014 Rankings


Prospect Information
Updated 5/1/2014

Prospect - A player under 25 who has not yet acquired a permanent spot at the NHL level and who's expected ceiling is at the NHL level.  Once a player has played a full season at the NHL level, and is not expected to have to earn a spot in the following year, then they are no longer a prospect.


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(1) Rasmus Ristolainen
Defenseman, 19, 6-3 207, Finnish

Player Type: Physical Offensive Defenseman (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): 1st Pairing (4/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014-2015
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.1 (Pick 8)


(2) Nikita Zadorov  
Defenseman, 18, 6-5 230, Russian

Player Type: Physical Two-way Defensemen (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 1st Pairing (4/5)
League: OHL - London Knights (AHL Eligible = 2015 - 2016 season)
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA (Contract can slide one year if he plays less than 10 NHL games 2013-2014)
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014-2015
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.1 (Pick 16)


(3) Mikhail Grigorenko
Center, 19, 6-3 200, Russian

Player Type: Scorer/Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (3/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015
Acquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.1 (Pick 12)


(4) Zemgus Girgensons
Center, 20, 6-2 194, Latvian

Player Type: Playmaker/Two-Way Forward (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 2nd/3rd Line Center (5/5)
League: NHL
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Acquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.1 (Pick 14)


(5) Joel Armia
Right Winger, 20, 6-3 187, Finnish

Player Type: Scorer/Power-forward (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (3/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015
Acquired: Drafted 2011 Rd.1 (Pick 16)


(6) Mark Pysyk
Defensemen, 22, 6-1 188, Canadian

Player Type: Offensive Defensemen (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): 2nd Pairing (4/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014
Acquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.1 (Pick 23)


(7) Jake McCabe
Defensemen, 20, 6-1 200, American

Player Type: Two-way Defensemen (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 2nd Pairing (3/5)
League: NHL
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015 - 2016
Acquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.2 (Pick 44)


(8) Johan Larsson
Center, 21, 5-10 200, Swedish

Player Type: Two-Way Forward (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Line Center (4/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014 - 2015
Acquired: Trade with Wild (Drafted 2010 - Rd.2)


(9) JT Compher
Center, 18, 5-10 180, American

Player Type: Playmaker (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (3/5)
League: NCAA - Univ. of Michigan
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.2 (Pick 35)


(10) Hudson Fasching
Right Winger, 18, 6-3 215, American

Player Type: Scorer/Power Forward (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (3/5)
League: NCAA - University of Minnesota
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016
Acquired: Trade with Kings (Drafted 2013 - Rd.4)


(11) Nick Baptiste
Center, 18, 6-1 200, Canadian

Player Type: Scorer/ Physical Two-Way Forward (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (2/5)
League: OHL - Sudbury Wolves  (AHL Eligible = 2015 - 2016 season)
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in OHL
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.3 (Pick 69)


(12) Connor Hurley
Center, 18, 6-0 178, American

Player Type: Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (2/5)
League: US Juniors - Muskegon Lumberjacks
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016 - 2018
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.2 (Pick 38)


(13) Justin Bailey
Right Winger, 18, 6-3 190, American

Player Type: Scorer/Power-Forward (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (2/5)
League: OHL - Kitchener Rangers (AHL Eligible = 2015 - 2016 season)
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in OHL
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015-2017
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.2 (Pick 52)


(14) Chad Ruhwedel
Defensemen, 23, 5-11 187, American

Player Type: Defensive Defensemen (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Pairing Defensemen (4/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014
Acquired: 2013 Free Agent


(15) William Carrier  
Left Winger, 19, 6-2 196, Canadian

Player Type: Playmaker/Two-Way Forward (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (2/5)
League: QMJHL - Cape Breton Screaming Eagles (AHL Eligible = 2014 - 2015 season)
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Trade with Blues (Drafted 2013 - Rd.2)


(16) Linus Ullmark
Goalie, 20, 6-3 198, Swedish

Potential (Likelihood): Starting NHL Goalie (2/5)
League: SHL - MODO
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned for 1 more year
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Draft 2012 Rd.6 (Pick 163)


(17) Gustav Possler
Winger, 19, 6-1 181, Swedish

Player Type: Scorer (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (2/5)
League: SHL - MODO
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned for 2 more years
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Draft 2013 Rd.5 (Pick 130)


(18) Nicolas Deslauriers
Left Winger, 23, 6-0 200, Canadian

Player Type: Two-Way Forward (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Top Six Forward (2/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 1 Year Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Trade with Kings (Drafted 2009 - Rd.3)


(19) Justin Kea
Center, 20, 6-4 211, Canadian

Player Type: Grinder/Two Way Forward (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Liner (3/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 4 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.3 (Pick 73)


(20) Logan Nelson
Center, 20, 6-1 178, American

Player Type: Two-Way Forward (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): 2nd/3rd Liner (2/5)
League: WHL - Victoria Royals  (AHL Eligible = 2014 - 2015 season)
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in WHL
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Draft 2012 Rd.5 (Pick 133)


(21) Daniel Catenacci
Winger, 21, 5-10 180, Canadian

Player Type: Scorer/Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 2nd/3rd Liner (2/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015 - 2016
Acquired: Drafted 2011 Rd.3 (Pick 77)


(22) Cal Petersen
Goalie, 19, 6-1 174, American

Potential (Likelihood): Starting NHL Goalie (1/5)
League: NCAA - Univ. of Notre Dame
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2017+
Acquired: Draft 2013 Rd.5 (Pick 129)


(23) Andrey Makarov
Goalie, 20, 6-1 193, Russian

Potential (Likelihood): Starting NHL Goalie (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: 2012 Free Agent


(24) Nathan Lieuwen
Goaltender, 22, 6-5 181, Canadian

Potential (Likelihood): Backup NHL Goalie (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: 2 year remaining, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015+
Acquired: Drafted 2009 Rd.6 (pick 167)


(25) Matt Hackett
Goaltender, 24, 6-2 173, Canadian

Potential (Likelihood): Backup NHL Goalie (2/5)
League: NHL
Contract: 1 year remaining, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014 - 2015
Acquired: Trade with Wild (Drafted 2009 - Rd.3)


(26) Brady Austin
Defensemen, 20, 6-4 230, Canadian

Player Type: Defensive Defensemen (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Pairing Defensemen (1/5)
League: OHL - Belleville Bulls (AHL Eligible)
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned for 1 more year
Projected Sabre Debut: 2017+
Acquired: Drafted 2012 Rd.7 (Pick 193)


(27) Anthony Florentino
Defenseman, 19, 6-1 210, American

Player Type: Physical Two-Way Defensemen (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Pairing Defensemen (1/5)
League: NCAA - Providence College
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Draft 2013 Rd.5 (Pick 143)


(28) Phil Varone
Center, 23, 5-10 186, Canadian

Player Type: Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015+
Acquired: 2011 Free Agent


(29) Sean Malone
Center, 18, 5-11 180, American

Player Type: Two-Way Forward (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: NCAA - Harvard
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2017+
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.6 (Pick 159)


(30) Eric Locke
Center, 20, 5-9 180, Canadian

Player Type: Scorer/Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: OHL - Saginaw Spirit (AHL Eligible)
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in OHL
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Drafted 2013 Rd.7 (Pick 189)


(31) Tim Schaller
Center, 23, 6-2 209, American

Player Type: Grinder (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: 2013 Free Agent


(32) Luke Adam
Center, 23, 6-2 206, Canadian

Player Type: Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: 1 year remaining, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2014+
Acquired: Drafted 2008 Rd.2 (Pick 44)

(33) Christian Isackson
Right Winger, 22, 6-0 183, American

Player Type: Playmaker (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: NCAA - Minnesota
Contract: Unsigned = Rights owned while in NCAA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2016+
Acquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.7 (Pick 203)


(34) Nick Crawford
Defensemen, 24, 6-1 192, Canadian

Player Type: Defensive Defensemen (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Pairing Defensemen (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: 1 year remaining, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015 - 2017
Acquired: Drafted 2008 Rd.6 (Pick 164)


(35) Jerome Gauthier-Leduc
Defensemen, 21, 6-2 196, Canadian

Player Type: Offensive Defensemen (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): 3rd Pairing Defensemen (1/5)
League: ECHL - Gwinnett Gladiators
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2015+
Acquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.3 (Pick 68)


(36) Kevin Sundher
Center, 22, 5-11 180, Canadian

Player Type: Playmaker (LH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: AHL
Contract: Entry Level = 2 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2017+
Acquired: Drafted 2010 Rd.3 (Pick 75)


(37) Colin Jacobs  
Right Winger, 21, 6-1 210, American

Player Type: Two-Way Forward (RH)
Potential (Likelihood): Bottom Six Forward (1/5)
League: ECHL - Elmira Jackals
Contract: Entry Level = 3 Years Left, then RFA
Projected Sabre Debut: 2017+
Acquired: Drafted 2011 Rd.4 (Pick 107)




Prospect Overview

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Nationalities: 15 Canadians, 13 Americans, 3 Russians, 3 Swedes, 2 Finns, 1 Latvian

Edited by Numark, 21 May 2014 - 10:08 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:32 AM

Good write up.  I'm excited to add some new names to the list. :beer:

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 09:40 AM

Yea I am really excited to see who we add to our prospect pool.  Putting this ranking together got me pretty optimistic as we have some good future talent.  The sabres prospect's were recently rated 8 out of 30 by http://www.hockeysfuture.com/

Also if you notice a lot of our guys at the top of the list have size

Edited by Numark, 21 June 2013 - 11:07 AM.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 11:31 AM

Numark,

Can you add size to your profiles?  After all, we know how important size is.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:10 PM

Updated with size...size matters

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:25 PM

Catenacci's size is not a hindrance, he is 5'10" yes but he weighs 190lbs.  The kid is an animal and I have no problems with his height.  He will become a Sabre in in 2014.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:37 PM

Good thread.  Please fix the title.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 12:48 PM

View PostEleven, on 21 June 2013 - 12:37 PM, said:

Good thread.  Please fix the title.

Apostrophe?

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:48 PM

View PostNumark, on 21 June 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Prospect - A player under 25 who has not yet acquired a permanent spot at the NHL level.  Once a player has played a full season at the NHL level, and is not expected to have to earn a spot in the following year, then they are no longer a prospect.

So why no Adam?

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:49 PM

View Postdudacek, on 21 June 2013 - 01:48 PM, said:

So why no Adam?

the last grain of sand is slipping through his hourglass.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 01:55 PM

View PostX. Benedict, on 21 June 2013 - 01:49 PM, said:

the last grain of sand is slipping through his hourglass.

I — and most on here — agree.
But he fits under the definition, and he's no less of a prospect than Drew Scheistel, Nick Crawford, Corey Tropp and Brian Flynn.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

I edited the definition a bit better because you're right Luke Adam did meet the requirements.  But so did any ahl player.  The reason I didn't include Adam or BIega is because it looks like the sabres no longer see them having NHL potential.


But what does everyone else think?  Do you think Luke Adam is a prospect in the sense that we think his expected ceiling is at the NHL level?  Does he get one more year having "prospect status"?



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But he fits under the definition, and he's no less of a prospect than Drew Scheistel, Nick Crawford, Corey Tropp and Brian Flynn

I think Tropp or Flynn can become 4th line contributors.  And I agree on Scheistel and crawford for the most part, but I'm giving them one more year to prove anything

Edited by Numark, 21 June 2013 - 02:24 PM.


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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:33 PM

View PostNumark, on 21 June 2013 - 02:23 PM, said:

I think Tropp or Flynn can become 4th line contributors.  And I agree on Scheistel and crawford for the most part, but I'm giving them one more year to prove anything
I see Flynn as being a perfect 3rd line guy for us. He can jump up and produce, he is tenacious on the puck and is solid defensively.  Most will disagree but eh the kid looks good and can play, so let him.

Speaking of sabres Prospects did you guys hear about our newest player? "Anton Larsson" according to NHL.com Darcy mentioned him the other day... ""I'm excited because it adds to a group of young players we currently have: [Anton] Larsson, [Zemgus] Girgensons," http://www.nhl.com/i...s.htm?id=674690

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:55 PM

View PostNumark, on 21 June 2013 - 12:48 PM, said:

Apostrophe?

Yeah, it was killin' me.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 02:58 PM

I think Biega deserves to be on the list.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 03:11 PM

If you factor in both potential AND likelihood of success, I think you could make the case that Zemgus Girgensons is our no.1 prospect right now.  Girgensons made huge strides this season and is a total monster in terms of work ethic.  According to a few players/reporters, he was the best player (for either team) in the Amerks' playoff series with Toronto.  And according to Matthew Coller, when they asked him about his playoff performance, his response was "So what? We lost."  If I had to make a list of prospects I DON'T want to trade, he's my no.1.

Grigorenko: Scored a lot in the Q, then did nothing in the NHL, then scored a lot in the Q, then did nothing in the playoffs for the Remparts or Amerks.  I was excited about the pick too, but right now he's on track to be the moody weirdo everyone was scared of during last year's draft.

Armia: Good numbers in Finland again, but not spectacular.  He had two concussions this year but helped his team win a championship.  He'll either be a good scorer in the NHL or a guy who gets his head taken off.  Or both.

My list is something like:
1. Girgensons
2. Grigorenko
3. Armia
4. Pysyk
5. McNabb
6. McCabe
7. Larsson
8. Catenacci
9. Hackett
10. Tropp (could be higher since he should have been a full time NHLer last year but got injured, and I guess he could be lower too since he's getting older and we're still waiting to see how fully he recovers).

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 04:17 PM

View PostRobviously, on 21 June 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

If you factor in both potential AND likelihood of success, I think you could make the case that Zemgus Girgensons is our no.1 prospect right now.  Girgensons made huge strides this season and is a total monster in terms of work ethic.  According to a few players/reporters, he was the best player (for either team) in the Amerks' playoff series with Toronto.  And according to Matthew Coller, when they asked him about his playoff performance, his response was "So what? We lost."  If I had to make a list of prospects I DON'T want to trade, he's my no.1.

Grigorenko: Scored a lot in the Q, then did nothing in the NHL, then scored a lot in the Q, then did nothing in the playoffs for the Remparts or Amerks.  I was excited about the pick too, but right now he's on track to be the moody weirdo everyone was scared of during last year's draft.

Armia: Good numbers in Finland again, but not spectacular.  He had two concussions this year but helped his team win a championship.  He'll either be a good scorer in the NHL or a guy who gets his head taken off.  Or both.

My list is something like:
1. Girgensons
2. Grigorenko
3. Armia
4. Pysyk
5. McNabb
6. McCabe
7. Larsson
8. Catenacci
9. Hackett
10. Tropp (could be higher since he should have been a full time NHLer last year but got injured, and I guess he could be lower too since he's getting older and we're still waiting to see how fully he recovers).

I share your optimism in regards to Zemgus. I am hoping to see him up with the big club this year. So far, seems like an excellent pick and a redeeming factor in the midst of a torrent of Darcy Regier hatred.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 05:28 PM

View PostLaFontaineToMogilny, on 21 June 2013 - 04:17 PM, said:

I share your optimism in regards to Zemgus. I am hoping to see him up with the big club this year. So far, seems like an excellent pick and a redeeming factor in the midst of a torrent of Darcy Regier hatred.
I liked Girgensons going into the draft but I wasn't sure about trading up for him.  We could have stayed put and taken Henrik Samuelsson a few picks later, and done something useful with the extra 2nd round pick.  Obviously I'm feeling more confident about the move now.

I hope he plays all of next season as the no.1 center for Rochester.  Just give him tons of minutes in all situations.  We rushed Grigorenko to the NHL and look pretty stupid for doing so.  No need to do that again.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 06:51 PM

View Postinkman, on 21 June 2013 - 02:58 PM, said:

I think Biega deserves to be on the list.

The reason I didn't include him was I think the organization made it clear what they thought of him by repeatedly choosing other prospects to get a chance to play in the NHL over him.  I think the signing of ruhwedel was the writing on the wall.  Plus he is now 25 years old

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:03 PM

View PostNumark, on 21 June 2013 - 06:51 PM, said:

The reason I didn't include him was I think the organization made it clear what they thought of him by repeatedly choosing other prospects to get a chance to play in the NHL over him.  I think the signing of ruhwedel was the writing on the wall.  Plus he is now 25 years old
I don't disagree with anything you said.  He just doesn't seem to be able to catch a break.  He plays hard, plays way bigger than his size.  He's competent offensively, and sound on D.  Just not good enough or bad enough to stand out. I'll root for the guy.

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 07:13 PM

View Postinkman, on 21 June 2013 - 07:03 PM, said:

I don't disagree with anything you said.  He just doesn't seem to be able to catch a break.  He plays hard, plays way bigger than his size.  He's competent offensively, and sound on D.  Just not good enough or bad enough to stand out. I'll root for the guy.

I don't get it either, I thought we would see him last year and I think he has earned his shot.  I don't understand why they don't view him better, but it just seems they don't.  I certainly think he is better than a handful of the prospects in our system, but yea

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:04 PM

View PostRobviously, on 21 June 2013 - 05:28 PM, said:

I liked Girgensons going into the draft but I wasn't sure about trading up for him.  We could have stayed put and taken Henrik Samuelsson a few picks later, and done something useful with the extra 2nd round pick.  Obviously I'm feeling more confident about the move now.

I hope he plays all of next season as the no.1 center for Rochester.  Just give him tons of minutes in all situations.  We rushed Grigorenko to the NHL and look pretty stupid for doing so.  No need to do that again.
I remember you being concerned about the pick in the middle of this year.  Hopefully Grigs will do the same.

And I totally agree about letting Girgensons stay in Roch.  Play him with Armia all year so he can teach him the NA game and take people's heads off if they go after his head.

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 06:56 AM

No apostrophe. This is a list of Sabres Prospects.


…or is it a list of the Sabres' prospects? Hmmm?

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 08:13 AM

Can't wait to see what Isaakson can do this year.  He was a late round draft choice out of High School with mad skills and avg. 2 goals per game.  Like most college players he mostly sat his first two years, but showed more of his ability last year. If this is a break out year for this young guy, the Sabres may actually have a first line center in two years.  One could only hope he is a diamond in the rough.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 11:59 AM

Is this a source of concern? Or is this more a product of other factors -- e.g., where our top prospects are from, how old they are, etc.?
As of now, no Sabres prospects will be attending Canada's U20 Summer Camp. Could change after draft.

https://twitter.com/...655335037534210

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:06 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 28 June 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Is this a source of concern? Or is this more a product of other factors -- e.g., where our top prospects are from, how old they are, etc.?
As of now, no Sabres prospects will be attending Canada's U20 Summer Camp. Could change after draft.

https://twitter.com/...655335037534210

I think the only one eligible would be Catenacci.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:07 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 28 June 2013 - 11:59 AM, said:

Is this a source of concern? Or is this more a product of other factors -- e.g., where our top prospects are from, how old they are, etc.?
As of now, no Sabres prospects will be attending Canada's U20 Summer Camp. Could change after draft.

https://twitter.com/...655335037534210
We drafted McCabe (American) Grigorenko (Russian) Girgensons (Latvian) Armia (Finish) over the last 2 years... so no not really.  Can we think of a under 20 Canadian born prospect we have who should be there? I think Catenacci is to old now right?

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:25 PM

i believe catenacci is 20 now. is that too old? u-20 is under 20, not 20 and under, right?

he was invited to the camp last year, iirc.

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We drafted McCabe (American) Grigorenko (Russian) Girgensons (Latvian) Armia (Finish) over the last 2 years... so no not really.  

quite right - thx

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 12:30 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 28 June 2013 - 12:25 PM, said:

i believe catenacci is 20 now. is that too old? u-20 is under 20, not 20 and under, right?

he was invited to the camp last year, iirc.



quite right - thx
You are welcome. I was thinking the same thing as you when I first looked at that. After I thought about it, it made sense.

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Posted 28 June 2013 - 01:19 PM

Yea I updated the list with nationalities, and the only real prospect we have who would be eligible would be our 3rd round draft pick last yea, Justin Kea who actually had a good year last year in the OHL

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:18 PM

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Per Bill Hoppe, #Sabres won't give qualifying offers to D Drew Schiestel or RW Jacob Lagace. Not that that's a surprise.

It's UFA for Leggio...may get a deal if the Sabres trade Miller.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:27 PM

Not sure I find this to be the best idea.

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Darcy Regier says he will allow Amerks goalie David Leggio to become an unrestricted free agent without making him a contract offer.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:31 PM

View Postnobody, on 30 June 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Not sure I find this to be the best idea.

John Vogl@BuffNewsVogl  4m
Darcy Regier says he will allow Amerks goalie David Leggio to become an unrestricted free agent without making him a contract offer.
Hackett and Makarov (?) in rochester next season?

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:39 PM

View Postinkman, on 30 June 2013 - 09:31 PM, said:

Hackett and Makarov (?) in rochester next season?

Has to be since the odds of a Miller trade are probably reduced a bit.

Are you going to be happy with that tandem?  Hackett playing 60 games.  Not sure Hackett will be happy about being stuck in the AHL.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:41 PM

View Postnobody, on 30 June 2013 - 09:39 PM, said:

Has to be since the odds of a Miller trade are probably reduced a bit.

Are you going to be happy with that tandem?  Hackett playing 60 games.  Not sure Hackett will be happy about being stuck in the AHL.
Good.  I don't want him happy being there.  When Miller or Enroth suffer the nearly inevitable injury, have him play well in his couple of games and force the team to make some decisions.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:43 PM

View PostTaro T, on 30 June 2013 - 09:41 PM, said:

Good.  I don't want him happy being there.  When Miller or Enroth suffer the nearly inevitable injury, have him play well in his couple of games and force the team to make some decisions.

Luke Adam didn't like playing in the AHL either

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:44 PM

View PostThirtyEight, on 30 June 2013 - 09:43 PM, said:

Luke Adam didn't like playing in the AHL either
Is Hackett known to be a lazy head case that will pout rather than work?

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:46 PM

View Postnobody, on 30 June 2013 - 09:27 PM, said:

Not sure I find this to be the best idea.

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Darcy Regier says he will allow Amerks goalie David Leggio to become an unrestricted free agent without making him a contract offer.

I'm wondering if he's waiting to see what kind of offers he gets for Miller this week before committing. He might be giving him an opportunity to have a shot to play in the NHL somewhere else IF Miller stays. He might be saying to be patient in that he could sign Leggio to backup Enroth next year if he can trade Miller. I think we'll have a lot better idea what the hell's going on in a couple of weeks. After what's happened today, Darcy has to have something in mind.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:50 PM

View PostJJFIVEOH, on 30 June 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

I'm wondering if he's waiting to see what kind of offers he gets for Miller this week before committing. He might be giving him an opportunity to have a shot to play in the NHL somewhere else IF Miller stays. He might be saying to be patient in that he could sign Leggio to backup Enroth next year if he can trade Miller. I think we'll have a lot better idea what the hell's going on in a couple of weeks. After what's happened today, Darcy has to have something in mind.
One would hope.

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Posted 30 June 2013 - 09:52 PM

View PostJJFIVEOH, on 30 June 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

I'm wondering if he's waiting to see what kind of offers he gets for Miller this week before committing. He might be giving him an opportunity to have a shot to play in the NHL somewhere else IF Miller stays. He might be saying to be patient in that he could sign Leggio to backup Enroth next year if he can trade Miller. I think we'll have a lot better idea what the hell's going on in a couple of weeks. After what's happened today, Darcy has to have something in mind.
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