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#41 Andrew Amerk

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 01:41 AM

Not surprising. Who the heck else is going to play net for that team? Would any goalie want to go there at this point, young or old?


Maybe they could get Ron Hextall out of retirement.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:35 AM

Not that big of a deal. Everybody understands. It's the same thing.

Don't worry, the NHL is nothing like the NBA. Probably half the flopping, actual fights, not rigged.


I just can't stress enough how much I hate the NBA.

But anyway, the one name I find the most curious in all of this is DiPietro. The Islanders have proven again and again just how cheap they are (like say adding Tim Thomas so they don't actually have to pay up to the floor). I'll be interested to see how much they might be able to give another team in order to take that cash hit for them. If I was the NHL, I'd be keeping a very close eye on that one.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 07:46 AM

Sportsnet via Nick Kypreos is reporting that Mike Komisarek will be a Laughs buyout.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:30 AM

I just can't stress enough how much I hate the NBA.

But anyway, the one name I find the most curious in all of this is DiPietro. The Islanders have proven again and again just how cheap they are (like say adding Tim Thomas so they don't actually have to pay up to the floor). I'll be interested to see how much they might be able to give another team in order to take that cash hit for them. If I was the NHL, I'd be keeping a very close eye on that one.

Actually, a buyout of Dipietro might be the better option for the cheap team. Instead of burying him in the minors and paying his full contract, they can buy him out paying a portion of it instead of the full thing. Only thing is they may be the only ones to petition the league to let it all continue to count against their cap.....

Now just to be clear, do the buyouts count against the cap for the teams or is it that these 2 buyouts won't count towards the cap?

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:34 AM

Actually, a buyout of Dipietro might be the better option for the cheap team. Instead of burying him in the minors and paying his full contract, they can buy him out paying a portion of it instead of the full thing. Only thing is they may be the only ones to petition the league to let it all continue to count against their cap.....

Now just to be clear, do the buyouts count against the cap for the teams or is it that these 2 buyouts won't count towards the cap?


No cap hit.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:36 AM

No cap hit.

Yup, thanks
I went to google to check it out after I posted it and found that out.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 09:51 AM

Actually, a buyout of Dipietro might be the better option for the cheap team. Instead of burying him in the minors and paying his full contract, they can buy him out paying a portion of it instead of the full thing. Only thing is they may be the only ones to petition the league to let it all continue to count against their cap.....

Now just to be clear, do the buyouts count against the cap for the teams or is it that these 2 buyouts won't count towards the cap?


Actually, one idea I've heard suggested in the media about the Islanders is that they could actually use a regular buyout on DiPietro and not one of their two compliance buyouts. Money-wise, I'm not sure on the difference, but that way it would count against the cap for years to come. This was a while back before the CBA was fully available to the public, so I have no idea how doable it is now.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:28 AM

I just can't stress enough how much I hate the NBA.

But anyway, the one name I find the most curious in all of this is DiPietro. The Islanders have proven again and again just how cheap they are (like say adding Tim Thomas so they don't actually have to pay up to the floor). I'll be interested to see how much they might be able to give another team in order to take that cash hit for them. If I was the NHL, I'd be keeping a very close eye on that one.


The NHL doesn't care. There's a reason they made it a rule that teams could acquire players and then buy them out. The Isles will have to give a team assets to actually pay him. So it's not like they're getting off free.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 11:44 AM

Actually, one idea I've heard suggested in the media about the Islanders is that they could actually use a regular buyout on DiPietro and not one of their two compliance buyouts. Money-wise, I'm not sure on the difference, but that way it would count against the cap for years to come. This was a while back before the CBA was fully available to the public, so I have no idea how doable it is now.

Apparently from what i understood when I googled it this morning, the 2 buyouts that the teams get this year (only one for Montreal and NYR since they were given permission to use one this year to free their 2 guys stuck in the minors) only differ from a typical buyout by the teams not having to take the cap hit to do it.

So basically, the Islanders could use a regular buyout for Dipietro so that they keep the big cap hit over a few years and only pay a portion of his salary.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:02 PM

Briere "officially" bought out


http://flyers.nhl.co...s.htm?id=674673

http://flyers.nhl.co...s.htm?id=674647

Edited by nobody, 20 June 2013 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:09 PM

http://forums.sabres..._40#entry488946

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:15 PM

If its cheap bring him back.

Could help Girgs, Grigo, Cody...

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:18 PM

If its cheap bring him back.

Could help Girgs, Grigo, Cody...


Wouldn't mind seeing #48 back in Blue and Gold.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:22 PM

If the price is right, why not? We need power play scoring and veteran leadership, especially if Vanek is traded.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:24 PM

I like Briere, but another *blast from the past*?

No thanks.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:26 PM

I like Briere, but another *blast from the past*?

No thanks.


These "if the price is right" comments leave a ton of wiggle room. Is the right price $2 million or is it $0.85? Those statements might as well be the equivalent of remaining neutral.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:29 PM

I would take Briere back, but I doubt there's a scenario where the 35-year old would choose playing for a rebuilding Buffalo team over say, Montreal. Maybe if Vanek and Miller stay, there's a possibility he'd consider us, but I'm sure he'd prefer another crack at the Cup. Averaging a point-per-game in over 100 NHL playoff games is reason enough for many teams to be interested.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:34 PM

I'm guessing he goes to New Jersey Devils.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 12:35 PM

I'm guessing he goes to New Jersey Devils.


Closest proximity to Philly for his kids?

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:23 PM

@Ledger_NJDevils
It appears very likely the Devils will not use either of their two amnesty buyouts this summer.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:38 PM

I would take Briere back, but I doubt there's a scenario where the 35-year old would choose playing for a rebuilding Buffalo team over say, Montreal. Maybe if Vanek and Miller stay, there's a possibility he'd consider us, but I'm sure he'd prefer another crack at the Cup. Averaging a point-per-game in over 100 NHL playoff games is reason enough for many teams to be interested.


The more I think about it, the more Montreal makes zero sense. They've been trying to move away from smaller guys.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:44 PM

The more I think about it, the more Montreal makes zero sense. They've been trying to move away from smaller guys.


Don't underestimate the the attraction his mother tongue has there.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:46 PM

Don't underestimate the the attraction his mother tongue has there.


Doubt they throw off their entire plan because he's one of the MANY players in the league that can speak it. Also think he'd choose closer teams over them if it comes to that.

Edited by DStebb, 20 June 2013 - 02:47 PM.


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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:47 PM

Don't underestimate the the attraction his mother tongue has there.


Plus the factor of being a clutch playoff performer.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 02:50 PM

Don't underestimate the the attraction his mother tongue has there.


Every French Canadien kids dream ... to play for the Habs.

Flyers will still be on the hook for about a mil / year for the next 4. So, he would proably take a big pay cut just for the chance to put on that sacred jersey.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:05 PM

Briere coming back to the Sabres? Why?

Why would he want to spend the twilight of his career with a horrible Sabres squad?
Why would the Sabres want him? So our top three centers can be Hodgson, Briere, Grigorenko and we can have no checking line again?
I don't see it.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:09 PM

Doubt they throw off their entire plan because he's one of the MANY players in the league that can speak it. Also think he'd choose closer teams over them if it comes to that.


Signing Briere would hardly throw off their entire plan. He'd be a short term solution. And I think only Desharnais speaks French with proficiency. Danny is a locker room natural for that city.

Briere coming back to the Sabres? Why?

Why would he want to spend the twilight of his career with a horrible Sabres squad?
Why would the Sabres want him? So our top three centers can be Hodgson, Briere, Grigorenko and we can have no checking line again?
I don't see it.


IGood chemistry with Leino. He'd improve the PP.
He can play wing and center. He'd come at a discount.....I can think of more.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:27 PM

Why take Briere back?

Why not? How much worse could we be?

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:29 PM

Every French Canadien kids dream ... to play for the Habs.

Flyers will still be on the hook for about a mil / year for the next 4. So, he would proably take a big pay cut just for the chance to put on that sacred jersey.


Montreal offered more then Philly offered originally and he chose Philly.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:37 PM

Montreal offered more then Philly offered originally and he chose Philly.


At the time, he probably felt Philly was closer to the cup.

And he almost won one there.

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Posted 20 June 2013 - 03:58 PM

At the time, he probably felt Philly was closer to the cup.

And he almost won one there.


Flyers were one of worst teams in league year prior to him signing there and Montreal just missed playoffs.
He didn't want the pressure or the taxes of playing in Montreal at the time. Now that he is older, maybe but I doubt it

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Posted 21 June 2013 - 10:01 PM

A team rebuilding doesn't need a player on the decline.

No to Briere. Maybe Ruff can drag him to Dallas.

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 07:24 AM

The Detroit Red Wings are likely to use buyouts on Mikael Samuelsson and/or Carlo Coliacovo

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Posted 22 June 2013 - 03:01 PM

http://prohockeytalk...ed-for-anaheim/

No buyouts planned for Anaheim.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 10:00 AM

Flyers were one of worst teams in league year prior to him signing there and Montreal just missed playoffs.
He didn't want the pressure or the taxes of playing in Montreal at the time. Now that he is older, maybe but I doubt it


He didnt want to play there, the tax diff on his salary isnt as big as you think.

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Posted 23 June 2013 - 08:20 PM


@TSNBobMcKenzie:

Knock me over with a feather, but MTL has officially notified Tomas Kaberle that the dman will be MTL's second and final compliance buyout.


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Posted 23 June 2013 - 08:39 PM

I think the "amnesty" buyout name was avoided because it's pretty condescending. It's like saying "We made a mistake, you ###### suck and we're saving ourselves from you."


Compliance sounds more official. Either way, you're telling a guy he's not worth his contract, but this way is less insulting.

Kinda sounds like the difference of being told your being laid off because of budget cuts as opposed to being fired. :flirt:

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 06:58 AM

It makes absolutely zero sense for the Buffalo Sabres not to buy out Ville Leino. Stafford I can almost understand. Keeping Leino and his $18 mil on the books is inexcusable and a bad sign Darcy Regier is still not willing to part with his mistakes to the point of being a detriment to the franchise.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:06 AM

It makes absolutely zero sense for the Buffalo Sabres not to buy out Ville Leino. Stafford I can almost understand. Keeping Leino and his $18 mil on the books is inexcusable and a bad sign Darcy Regier is still not willing to part with his mistakes to the point of being a detriment to the franchise.


The Sabres cannot buy out Leino while he's recovering from injury.

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Posted 24 June 2013 - 07:10 AM

The Sabres cannot buy out Leino while he's recovering from injury.

Will the Sabres ever catch a break?