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Would you accept Weber as Sabres Captain?

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#1 LGR4GM

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:09 AM

We all know I have a man crush on Weber.  However whenever he speaks he says the right things.  Whenever he plays he does the right things. Whenever he hits the offseason he again does the right things.  He block shots, stands up for teammates, is the only stay at home defender we really have now that Regehr is gone.  Finally  he says things like this:

“Everyone personally and as a team, we need to go in a different direction here and change the culture here.  Guys need to be held accountable. I think a lot of that’s been lost over the last couple of years."

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:19 AM

I voted no.  I like Weber, and agree we need more players like him.  But he needs to bring more to the ice, not just the locker room to be captain material.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:21 AM

I think his youth is the only thing preventing it.  He may get the C one day but as long as Vanek, Ott and Ehrhoff are on the team he's probably taking a back seat.  I'd slap an A on that jersey any day.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:23 AM

I voted no, but really voted hell no.  His resume is incomplete.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:25 AM

Really impressed with the way he grew this year.
Not saying Ruff was holding him back - on the contrary, the way Ruff treated him may have been what he needed - but the timing of Rolston's arrival was perfect for him. Looks like Rolston trusts him and Mike responds.
I think he will be a leader for the young D this year and could be a captain someday.
Becoming captain of what will probably be a bad team next year though might be something he's not ready for.
Just more growth like what we saw this year please.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:26 AM

Maybe an A, probably not a C.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:26 AM

Great article. Makes me like him more. I started seeing all the love for him on here and paid more attention to him toward the end of the season. His game is much improved and I love the attitude. I would have no problem putting the C on him. Change direction of the team a bit and give the youth a say.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 10:46 AM

It is hard not to like Mike Weber. He's a heart and soul player.
To stay in this league he has to do the little things all the time.

But realistically the upside of his talent is really 3rd pairing and PK, stay at home guy.
He has fewer physical tools than say a Steve Montador.

I like him on my team. Love his heart and attitude. But really he's the type of support player every roster should have.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:17 AM

View PostX. Benedict, on 17 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

It is hard not to like Mike Weber. He's a heart and soul player.
To stay in this league he has to do the little things all the time.

But realistically the upside of his talent is really 3rd pairing and PK, stay at home guy.
He has fewer physical tools than say a Steve Montador.

I like him on my team. Love his heart and attitude. But really he's the type of support player every roster should have.

yep.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

I voted yes.

He is the type of player that does whatever it takes to win, but (as far as I can tell) is not like Ott ... if you know what I mean.

I love Ott and I would let him keep his A.

If Vanek stays he will likely wear the C.  If Vanek goes I see the following as the letter wearers ...

Weber = C
Ott = A
Ehrhoff = A

Stafford can just go sit in the corner and suck his thumb.

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 17 May 2013 - 01:58 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:30 AM

View PostX. Benedict, on 17 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

It is hard not to like Mike Weber. He's a heart and soul player.
To stay in this league he has to do the little things all the time.

But realistically the upside of his talent is really 3rd pairing and PK, stay at home guy.
He has fewer physical tools than say a Steve Montador.

I like him on my team. Love his heart and attitude. But really he's the type of support player every roster should have.

Agreed.  I want my captain to give me more on the ice than Weber is capable of.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:42 AM

View PostLGR4GM, on 17 May 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

We all know I have a man crush on Weber.

/thread.  (You've made your point.)

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostDoohickie, on 17 May 2013 - 11:42 AM, said:

/thread.  (You've made your point.)
:blush:


actually I voted Assistant Captain.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 11:48 AM

I voted yes, but only because I would accept it, not because I would think it's a good idea. Just secured a regular spot this year, it would be a pretty big slap in the face of more established players.

If it was up to me I would troll the entire league and make Kaleta captain

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:05 PM

While I doubt it would happen (and ,really, it shouldn't), it would be fun if Rolston walked in the first day and said, "instead of telling you what direction we are going this year, I'll let my captain choices show you.  Otter, you're captain; Webbs, Patty (Kaleta), you guys are the alternates.  Anyone not get the pattern?"

Edited by carpandean, 17 May 2013 - 12:06 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:13 PM

View Postcarpandean, on 17 May 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

While I doubt it would happen (and ,really, it shouldn't), it would be fun if Rolston walked in the first day and said, "instead of telling you what direction we are going this year, I'll let my captain choices show you.  Otter, you're captain; Webbs, Patty (Kaleta), you guys are the alternates.  Anyone not get the pattern?"

"Uh Coach, who talks to the refs when all three are in the box or dressing room?"

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 12:28 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 17 May 2013 - 11:30 AM, said:

Agreed.  I want my captain to give me more on the ice than Weber is capable of.

I agree with TBP.   I like Mike Weber  - but would he even qualify as a 1st line d-man on the NHL teams that made it to the quarterfinals of the playoffs this year? I think we need a more talented player in the role as Captain.

Edited by Jsixspd, 17 May 2013 - 12:28 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 01:55 PM

No on the captain, but yes on the A...


View PostX. Benedict, on 17 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

It is hard not to like Mike Weber. He's a heart and soul player.
To stay in this league he has to do the little things all the time.

But realistically the upside of his talent is really 3rd pairing and PK, stay at home guy.
He has fewer physical tools than say a Steve Montador.

I like him on my team. Love his heart and attitude. But really he's the type of support player every roster should have.

I disagree with this though. I think Weber could easily be considered a Top 4 D-man on most teams. I also think he plays far more physical than Montador ever did in Buffalo. At least he hits more -- granted there's more to being physical than just body checking, but I think Weber is noticeably more physical.

It's been a few years now but the most physical thing I remember Montador doing is tripping over & getting entangled with Patrick Lalime :lol: (Just kidding about that part but do you guys remember that disaster?)

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:14 PM

View Postthesportsbuff, on 17 May 2013 - 01:55 PM, said:


I disagree with this though. I think Weber could easily be considered a Top 4 D-man on most teams.
Top 4?
My mind just went like this:  Florida, maybe. Boston, nope. Rangers, nope. Islanders, maybe, Toronto, nope. Pens, nope. Habs, nope. Caronlina, maybe. Winnipeg, nope. Tampa, nope. Washington, nope.

So I'm thinking mostly, nope.

He's a 5 or 6.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:19 PM

View PostX. Benedict, on 17 May 2013 - 02:14 PM, said:

Top 4?
My mind just went like this:  Florida, maybe. Boston, nope. Rangers, nope. Islanders, maybe, Toronto, nope. Pens, nope. Habs, nope. Caronlina, maybe. Winnipeg, nope. Tampa, nope. Washington, nope.

So I'm thinking mostly, nope.

Buffalo?

I'm thinking at least maybe and possibly yes.

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 17 May 2013 - 02:20 PM.


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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:23 PM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 17 May 2013 - 02:19 PM, said:

Buffalo?

I'm thinking at least maybe and possibly yes.
He's closer to 6 than to 3. IMO. And that's okay.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 02:24 PM

i love mr. horseradish mustard, but if he's in your 2nd D pairing, you're not a very good team. i agree with X -- 3rd pairing and PK (shot blocking) time.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:12 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 17 May 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

i love mr. horseradish mustard, but if he's in your 2nd D pairing, you're not a very good team. i agree with X -- 3rd pairing and PK (shot blocking) time.
I disagree. Weber skates quite well and is probably more positionally sound than any other guy on the team.  He doesn't stick handle but has a great shot and is tough as Nails.  He may only be a 4 but I think he is a solid 4 on just about any team.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:36 PM

I think what we saw this year was the transition of Weber from a 6/7 to a 4/5.
The question is can he make another step up to legit top four?
I think next year will show he can.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:42 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 17 May 2013 - 02:24 PM, said:

i love mr. horseradish mustard, but if he's in your 2nd D pairing, you're not a very good team. i agree with X -- 3rd pairing and PK (shot blocking) time.

MMMM. Webers Mustard.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:43 PM

View PostX. Benedict, on 17 May 2013 - 03:42 PM, said:

MMMM. Webers Mustard.
NOM NOM NOM!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 03:54 PM

View Postdudacek, on 17 May 2013 - 03:36 PM, said:

I think what we saw this year was the transition of Weber from a 6/7 to a 4/5.
The question is can he make another step up to legit top four?
I think next year will show he can.

IMO the transition was from a guy who shouldn't sniff the lineup to a legit 3rd pairing player. I still don't want him near my top-4 if I hope to go on a deep run.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:04 PM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 17 May 2013 - 03:54 PM, said:

IMO the transition was from a guy who shouldn't sniff the lineup to a legit 3rd pairing player. I still don't want him near my top-4 if I hope to go on a deep run.
I think he keeps making progress... he started shooting more toward the end of the year and showed he can actually put the puck on net.  He has a heavy shot, not necessarily a high shot, but one good for redirecting.  If he keeps doing that, skating the puck out of his own zone more and still being hard nose, I think he easily can be a 3-4 D.  He is not quite there, but I don't think he is far off and I really like he compete level.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:16 PM

View PostNorth Buffalo, on 17 May 2013 - 04:04 PM, said:

I think he keeps making progress... he started shooting more toward the end of the year and showed he can actually put the puck on net.  He has a heavy shot, not necessarily a high shot, but one good for redirecting.  If he keeps doing that, skating the puck out of his own zone more and still being hard nose, I think he easily can be a 3-4 D.  He is not quite there, but I don't think he is far off and I really like he compete level.

I just don't see it. I don't want him skating more with the puck, I don't think he'd a fluid enough skater to do it, not to mention I don't think he has the instincts to be effective at it. I also don't think he has a particularly good first pass out of the zone. He may end up being a really good 3rd pairing defender, and there's nothing wrong with that. Just don't see enough natural ability to want him out there regularly against top offensive players.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 04:39 PM

I think Weber can become a good to very good shut down defenseman in time. I give him an A  in spirit but I think Ott, Ehrhoff, and Vanek are our guys right now.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 06:01 PM

I like Weber a lot, his game speaks for itself. I voted assistant, I don't want the C anywhere near him because I want him to be around a while.

It's been well over a decade since we have had a captain that lasted more than 3 seasons and actually contributed. Given the history of captain since 97 I say give it to whomever we want gone in the next couple of seasons.

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Posted 17 May 2013 - 08:56 PM

I voted yes but only because there isn't much else to choose from at this present time other than Ott who I like alot too. Weber has grown on me and I wish we had a few more on the D ranks with his moxy. I'm hoping with some of the young-uns making their way onto the roster in the next few years there will be a diamond in the rough who's very essence screams captain-leadership.

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Posted 18 May 2013 - 03:01 AM

View PostX. Benedict, on 17 May 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

It is hard not to like Mike Weber. He's a heart and soul player.
To stay in this league he has to do the little things all the time.

But realistically the upside of his talent is really 3rd pairing and PK, stay at home guy.
He has fewer physical tools than say a Steve Montador.

I like him on my team. Love his heart and attitude. But really he's the type of support player every roster should have.

Love him, and would like him as a captain on this team.

Only problem is, I don't like this team very much which is perfectly illustrated by the fact that I'm willing to take a number 4-6 defenseman as a captain.

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Posted 24 May 2013 - 09:26 AM

So just heard on SHH that Darcy has not began discussions with Mike Weber about his contract... which is expired and leaves him a RFA.... must be DR is waiting for the market to set first <_<

Edited by LGR4GM, 24 May 2013 - 09:26 AM.


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Posted 24 May 2013 - 09:37 AM

View PostLGR4GM, on 24 May 2013 - 09:26 AM, said:

So just heard on SHH that Darcy has not began discussions with Mike Weber about his contract... which is expired and leaves him a RFA.... must be DR is waiting for the market to set first <_<

He's restricted.  You give him a qualifying offer and talk to his agent later.

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Posted 27 May 2013 - 08:43 PM

Just went through this thread and it took me a bit but after thinking about it I do think Weber should be captain. For the argument he's not good enough, how so? It could be argued he was our best dman this year, he plays with the physicality that others respect and doesn't take the stupid penalties but steps up when he feels it is needed. Ott to me is the perfect A because he shows the leadership, but he sometimes gets a little ridiculous on the ice, with running around a lot and taking penalties. And after that I can't think of any other person I'd want captain, if Vanek is still here I guess him, but I think if he stays and things don't go well, he won't be the leader we need whereas Weber will keep that positive attitude.