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#1 IKnowPhysics

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:21 PM

Rolston's hired and Train Kept a Rollin'.

He's going to make decisions about assistant coaches in the next week or so: whether to keep some or all of the current staff, and who else to add or serve as replacements.

Likely the bolded positions would be most likely to be shifted, but technically everyone's up for grabs:

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Head Coach---Ron Rolston
Assistant Coach---James Patrick
Assistant Coach---Kevyn Adams
Assistant Coach---Teppo Numminen
Strength & Conditioning Coach---Doug McKenney
Asst. Strength & Conditioning Coach---J.T. Allaire
Goaltender Coach---Jim Corsi
Administrative Assistant Coach---Corey Smith
Athletic Trainer---Tim Macre
Asst. Athletic Trainer---Bob Mowry
Equipment Manager---Dave Williams
Equipment Manager---Rip Simonick
Assistant Equipment Manager---George Babcock
Massage Therapist---Chuck Garlow



Let's hear your thoughts.


My first thought is to spare no $Pegulas and rehire Scotty Arniel as the powerplay coach if he'd be up for that, but he's currently HC of the Chicago Wolves, so he may not be.

Edited by IKnowPhysics, 07 May 2013 - 04:25 PM.


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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:26 PM

I'd keep Kevyn, the rest can go.

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 04:34 PM

View PostSpndnchz, on 07 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

I'd keep Kevyn, the rest can go.

Rip Simonick never liked you either. :)

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Posted 07 May 2013 - 09:15 PM

Kim Pegula for massage therapist.....

And Darcy might as well be Administrative Assistant Coach.......he'd be perfect at that

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:58 AM

It would be awesome to see some former Sabre greats (who also have some real coaching experience) brought in.  Craig Ramsay, Pat LaFontaine, Jim Schoenfeld...  But of course, that won't happen 'cause you can't have assistant coaches whose personas outshine both the head coach AND the GM (put together).  Be prepared for guys whose hockey resumes would fit on a dinner napkin.  :yawn:

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:12 AM

View PostSuffer_enuff, on 08 May 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

It would be awesome to see some former Sabre greats (who also have some real coaching experience) brought in.  Craig Ramsay, Pat LaFontaine, Jim Schoenfeld...  But of course, that won't happen 'cause you can't have assistant coaches whose personas outshine both the head coach AND the GM (put together).  Be prepared for guys whose hockey resumes would fit on a dinner napkin.  :yawn:
I was just thinking about Schoney.  When they had the big alumni thing last year, was he there?  I can't say the last time I remember hearing about him being in Buffalo as part of any alumni event?

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:20 AM

View PostSuffer_enuff, on 08 May 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

It would be awesome to see some former Sabre greats (who also have some real coaching experience) brought in.  Craig Ramsay, Pat LaFontaine, Jim Schoenfeld...  But of course, that won't happen 'cause you can't have assistant coaches whose personas outshine both the head coach AND the GM (put together).  Be prepared for guys whose hockey resumes would fit on a dinner napkin.  :yawn:

Where have Sabre "greats" gotten us?

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:41 AM

I'd like to see new strength and conditioning coaches. This team consistently looks a step behind and the only time we see guys with jump it's because they're call ups.

We could also use an assistant with an eye for the power play which has suffered tremendously for years.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:00 AM

The man in charge of our pp should be fired. Personally I think all the assistants should go and let Roloston pick his own group.

I should add I bet all the coaches stay because we live on the island of sunshine and kittens where no one gets their feelings hurt.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:09 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 07 May 2013 - 04:26 PM, said:

I'd keep Kevyn, the rest can go.

I'd keep all of them if i can. I highly doubt we'd be able to get anyone better to agree to join such an unproven head coach and loser organization as this one.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 11:24 AM

I think we should have rotating coaches...

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:42 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 08 May 2013 - 11:24 AM, said:

I think we should have rotating coaches...

Interesting. I sometimes envisioned Lindy on a spit.

View PostVanek-Man, on 08 May 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

I'd keep all of them if i can. I highly doubt we'd be able to get anyone better to agree to join such an unproven head coach and loser organization as this one.
Good post. Who's out there who's better than Teppo Numminen?

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 12:50 PM

View PostVanek-Man, on 08 May 2013 - 11:09 AM, said:

I highly doubt we'd be able to get anyone better to agree to join such an unproven head coach and loser organization as this one.

That's the spirit.  Self defeat!

View PostPASabreFan, on 08 May 2013 - 12:42 PM, said:

Who's out there who's better than Teppo Numminen?

Nobody seems to know, but everyone seems to claim that they MUST be better than who we have now.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:22 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 08 May 2013 - 12:50 PM, said:

Nobody seems to know, but everyone seems to claim that they MUST be better than who we have now.

Yep, that's crazy talk on their part. Teppo's coaching resume speaks for itself.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:29 PM

A friend brought this up question up yesterday....hockey coaches vs football coaches....how important are they to their respective teams?  I'm not a huge NFL fan, but I'd guess NFL head coach has a pretty big impact on win/loss.  Schemes, strategy, etc.  Belichick.  NHL coach much less.  To me, the NHL coach is much more culture/leader guy than X/O/strategy. Hockey has a smaller field of play and fewer players involved, less variables.

That said, as mentioned in the other thread, Teppo and Patrick need to be held accountable for Myers to some degree.  Even if Lindy was bullying him, coach him through it. "yeah Lindy's old school, now pull your head out of your ass".

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 01:51 PM

View PostPASabreFan, on 08 May 2013 - 01:22 PM, said:

Yep, that's crazy talk on their part. Teppo's coaching resume speaks for itself.
I never claimed that there aren't better assistant coaches available, but who are they and what makes them better?  Or at least potentially better?  Why should they be hired?  If that can't be answered, then yes, it's crazy talk.  Lots of posters might pretend that the grass is greener on the other side, but they can't even see the other lawn.

WIth respect to Tyler Myers, does anyone else think that Myers came out of the lockout with subpar conditioning?

Tyler Myers thinks that.

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“I’ll be the first to admit I definitely need to turn things around, get back on that path to improving and working on the things that have made me successful. It’s just a matter of working that much harder this offseason.”...
Conditioning and keeping his weight have been regular issues for Myers, who said he will shuttle between Buffalo and British Columbia this summer in an effort to be in better shape for training camp in September.
“I don’t want to lose any quickness. Skating is a big part of my game and I don’t want gaining weight to affect that,” he said. “It’s just a matter that I think diet is going to be a really big thing for me.”

Maybe there's a case to hire Gary Roberts as a conditioning coach.  Or maybe Myers needs to be held accountable for his conditioning.  Nobody blamed Doug McKenney for Raffi Torres' fat ass.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:05 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 08 May 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

I never claimed that there aren't better assistant coaches available, but who are they and what makes them better?  Or at least potentially better?  Why should they be hired?  If that can't be answered, then yes, it's crazy talk.  Lots of posters might pretend that the grass is greener on the other side, but they can't even see the other lawn.


Perhaps they should purchase Scotts 4 step program..............................And fire our defensive coaches.  Whoever has been working with Myers should be embarassed.  As, I've stated before, the longer he has been away from his junior coaches, the more he has regressed.  Plain as day, even with a brown lawn.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:17 PM

I like Adams, Teppo is probably better educator, but motivator not sure.   I like adding Gary Roberts idea,  Jim Corsi I think is good and should be kept.  Would love Schoeny as a motivator.  The Rangers seem to like him as an Assistant GM,  could he be a viable replacement for Darcy?

Edited by North Buffalo, 08 May 2013 - 07:19 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 07:30 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 08 May 2013 - 01:51 PM, said:

I never claimed that there aren't better assistant coaches available, but who are they and what makes them better?  Or at least potentially better?  Why should they be hired?  If that can't be answered, then yes, it's crazy talk.  Lots of posters might pretend that the grass is greener on the other side, but they can't even see the other lawn.

I can't buy that logic. If someone wants to tell me Jim Kelly is to be preferred as offensive coordinator of the Bills over other candidates, the burden is on them to explain why. I don't have to prove why other candidates are better. It goes without saying. There are a million guys better than Kelly for that job, for obvious reasons.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:30 PM

View PostPASabreFan, on 08 May 2013 - 07:30 PM, said:

I can't buy that logic. If someone wants to tell me Jim Kelly is to be preferred as offensive coordinator of the Bills over other candidates, the burden is on them to explain why. I don't have to prove why other candidates are better. It goes without saying. There are a million guys better than Kelly for that job, for obvious reasons.

But that's why this thread exists: Of those millions of guys, name one.  Or a couple. Or justify Teppo's continued employment.  Or frame the important requirements of an assistant coach, and then pontificate about why the current staff does or does not meet those requirements.  Express some thoughts beyond "incumbent candidate sucks" or "a million unnamable persons would be better"- that's the easy way out.

View PostNorth Buffalo, on 08 May 2013 - 07:17 PM, said:

I like Adams, Teppo is probably better educator, but motivator not sure.   I like adding Gary Roberts idea,  Jim Corsi I think is good and should be kept.  Would love Schoeny as a motivator.  The Rangers seem to like him as an Assistant GM,  could he be a viable replacement for Darcy?
A couple people have said Adams is good.  Any reasons why?  Decent local kid with a decent NHL career, Cup included.

I agree about Teppo.  I'm sure he sees the game really well, undoubetedly a product of his long defensive playing career, which is why he was up in the box for games on the headset.  Don't know what his other strong points are.

Not sure what Patricks strong points are beyond his long career.  I get the impression he's a clear communicator and a student of defensive tactics (but maybe not systems).

I've never read a bad word about Jim Corsi, I've even read some of his work.  I know that goalie coaching is more of a psychologist position than others on the coaching staff.  I don't know if you change goalie coaches if you want to maintain a good relationship with your goalies.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:41 PM

i don't really care who they keep or get rid of. Except Patrick. I want him gone. I hold him responsible for the horrible, lost, clueless play of the defense for the majority of the year. Maybe he is a good communicator or a great teacher but he was the defense coach of a team that looked like they didn't belong on the ice with a bantam team.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 08:45 PM

I would rather jam my grandma's knitting needle up a random entry point than have a conversation with James Patrick. That guy is like the 2nd oboe player in the Des Moines Philharmonic who would look down upon Charlie Parker.....

Teppo is a nice fella.

I agree with Chz surprisingly....Adams would be the only one I'd think about seriously.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:13 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 08 May 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

But that's why this thread exists: Of those millions of guys, name one.  Or a couple. Or justify Teppo's continued employment.  Or frame the important requirements of an assistant coach, and then pontificate about why the current staff does or does not meet those requirements.  Express some thoughts beyond "incumbent candidate sucks" or "a million unnamable persons would be better"- that's the easy way out.

It's really not that complicated, man. You just want a debate for the sake of a debate. Want to make a bet? Assuming Ron cleans house with the staff (a huge assumption), not one of Adams-Patrick-Numminen is coaching in the NHL next season.

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:17 PM

I have this uneasy feeling that all the assistant coaches will be like Ron Rolston, not experience wise, I mean they will look and sound just like Darcy Regier. It's like "Single White GM."

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:46 PM

Seriously, why is the outward appearance of the coaching staff even subject to criticism?

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 09:59 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 08 May 2013 - 09:46 PM, said:

Seriously, why is the outward appearance of the coaching staff even subject to criticism?

Personal interaction in my review.......

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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:15 PM

View PostPASabreFan, on 08 May 2013 - 09:13 PM, said:

It's really not that complicated, man.

You're right, it's the easiest game. Name a replacement or why the current guys should stay.

I'm not looking for debate, I'm looking for ideas.  Genuine, original thought, beyond the aforementioned "incumbent candidate sucks" or "a million unnamable persons would be better."  What do you think makes a good assistant coach? Who fills that role?

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Is it a demotion for AHL Head Coaches to become NHL Assistant Coaches? I thought maybe it was, as it seems Assistant Coaches seem to get hired away for those jobs.  But there's been a few that have gone from AHL HC to NHL AC, like Todd Reirden with Pittsburgh.  Maybe Reirden's replacement with Wilkes-Barre/Scranton, John Hynes would be a good pick.  Like Rolston, he's a former USNTDP head coach with a great record and took those teams to several medals.

Or maybe Rolston needs former players with NHL experience that can teach guys how to play the pro game.  I'd love to land Nicklas Lidstrom, currently in native Sweden as a Red Wings scout, but all reports indicate he's perfectly happy and probably wouldn't defect away from his only NHL franchise.  Some other obvious candidates, like Rod Brind'Amour, Scott Neidermayer, and Bill Guerin have already taken Assistant jobs.  Mats Sundin doesn't seem like he's doing anything after being inducted into the HHOF last year.

Edit: I wonder if Chris Drury would make a good assistant coach.  He's got the heart.  He's a winner that hates to lose.

Edited by IKnowPhysics, 08 May 2013 - 10:21 PM.


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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:25 PM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 08 May 2013 - 10:15 PM, said:

You're right, it's the easiest game. Name a replacement or why the current guys should stay.

I'm not looking for debate, I'm looking for ideas.  Genuine, original thought, beyond the aforementioned "incumbent candidate sucks" or "a million unnamable persons would be better."  What do you think makes a good assistant coach? Who fills that role?
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Posted 08 May 2013 - 10:27 PM

View Postdrnkirishone, on 08 May 2013 - 10:25 PM, said:

your new to the internet ain't cha? :P

No, I'm not, and that's the problem.  I'm tired of reading the same old ######. :)

Edited by IKnowPhysics, 08 May 2013 - 10:27 PM.


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 07:44 AM

View PostIKnowPhysics, on 08 May 2013 - 08:30 PM, said:

A couple people have said Adams is good.  Any reasons why?  Decent local kid with a decent NHL career, Cup included.

I agree about Teppo.  I'm sure he sees the game really well, undoubetedly a product of his long defensive playing career, which is why he was up in the box for games on the headset.  Don't know what his other strong points are.

Not sure what Patricks strong points are beyond his long career.  I get the impression he's a clear communicator and a student of defensive tactics (but maybe not systems).

I've never read a bad word about Jim Corsi, I've even read some of his work.  I know that goalie coaching is more of a psychologist position than others on the coaching staff.  I don't know if you change goalie coaches if you want to maintain a good relationship with your goalies.

Corsi has had a good and long reputation having the ability to correct headcases and goaltender bad habits, otherwise why would Miller still be playing.

Adams seems to have some fire in his coaching still without being rude.  My problem with Patrick is he seems like he is company many trying to communicate what the coach wants without really having an opinion of his own and giving feedback to what is actually happening on the ice.  More of a formula guy.

As an anology, my special needs child once had an accessor telling us all the statistics of where my child was at on some scale of development.  When asked practically what that meant, how does that express itself and what does that mean as far as strategy to stimulating his development, she could not tell me... literally was clueless unless it was written on her sheet.  Obviously, she had some kind of learning disabiity and to an extent, I think Patrick has a similar problem.

He is kind of like rainman, he can spit out statistics, what the coach wants as a formula, but he cannot analyze and give advise to adjust that formula to effectively put it in practice with what his happening on the ice.  Just  what I have seen of how the Sabres have performed especially on zone break outs.  I do think since Adams has gotten there, they made some on the fly adjustments and started getting more flexible.

I don't think the D is the problem from a talent standpoint and once Sulzer gets back, I really like the depth with how Psyk showed up and Ruwedele is developing and having McNabb still in the wings.  The problem in my mind is how the forwards especially the lack of talent at center play in their own end.  You either need a winger to take over the defensive zone role or get a number 1 and 2 center.  The Sabres in my mind are not that far off except for the fact that it is really hard to find high level talented centers that can play both ends of the ice.  But that as we all know is beating a dead horse and lays at the feet of the GM or lack there of in the Sabres case.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:30 AM

I'm asking this sincerely: where do you guys get your insight into the assistant coaches? I rarely read them quoted, or hear them speak; I just see them standing behind the bench.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:48 AM

I remember earlier this season, and last, there was a lot of talk about why Ruff chose Pominville as captain, and one of the points Paul Hamilton brought up was that Ruff didn't like to be "challenged" (like Drury).  I think the same can be said about his choices as assistant coaches.  Look around the NHL and most of the "elite" head coaches have at least one assistant with NHL head coaching experience.  In Ruff's tenure this was never true (Lever, Ramsey, McCutcheon, Arniel, Patrick, Adams, Teppo), especially during the last few years, when guys were getting their first coaching gigs of any kind not in the minors or juniors, but as NHL assistants (Teppo, Adams, Patrick).

Here's a list of current NHL head coaches that have assistants with NHL head coaching experience:
Bylsma - Tony Granato (COL)
Babcock - Tom Rennery (NYR/EDM)
Quenneville - Mike Kitchen (STL)
Tippett - John  Anderson (ATL)
Muller - Joh MacLean (NJ)
Therrien - Gerard Gallant (CLB)
Dineen - Craig Ramsay (ATL)
D.Sutter - John Stevens (PHI), Davis Payne (STL)
Tortorella - Mike Sullivan (BOS)
Vigneault - Rick Bowness (5 teams)
Hitchcock - Brad Shaw (NYI)
McLellan - Larry Robinson (NJ)

That doesn't even take into account NHL assistants with years and years of head coaching experience in the minors or juniors.

I think it will be very interesting to see who Rolston chooses as his assistants  Does he go with comfort and tab Cassidy or let his recently retired brother cut his teeth at the NHL level?  Does he keep some of Lindy's guys?  Will he go with someone with legitimate NHL  coaching experience, but who could be seen as a "threat" to supplant him should the Sabres falter?  I don't care that Rolston never played in the NHL.  That's a moot point.  What I'd like to see are folks on the coaching staff that have "been around the block" at different levels of the game, and preferably, at least one assistant that has some NHL coaching experience (former head coach or longtime assistant).  If the organization loves Patrick and Adams so much, then put them in charge of Rochester, and let them develop along with the players.  I'm on board with Rolston as head coach, but would like to see him with some seasoned assistants.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:53 AM

View Postdudacek, on 09 May 2013 - 08:30 AM, said:

I'm asking this sincerely: where do you guys get your insight into the assistant coaches? I rarely read them quoted, or hear them speak; I just see them standing behind the bench.

They are in fact just holograms. Neither Adams nor Patrick are real - that is why they are never interviewed. Teppo is too expensive to hologram so they just pretend he sits in a box coaching through a head set, but in fact that room is empty bar a card board cut out of the Finn. As for Rolston, he does talk...but he sounds just like Darcy. Why is this? Because it is Darcy. When Ruff was fired Darcy saw his chance to be in full control of the team. I ask you this. Have you ever heard Darcy and Rolston talk at the same time? No. Because it can't be done

To summarise:
Teppo - Cardboard cutout
Adams/patrick - Mute Hologram
Rolston - Hologram that Darcy uses to speak
Darcy - Evil mastermind

Why do you think Darcy has pretended to be so incompetent all this time? It is nothing more than an illusion. A trick to get the Sabres guard down. Well it worked. All hail Lord Regier

In other news - Drury was smart too. Might make a good fit for the Rolston cerebral style coaching. But there might also be a bad relationship between the organisation and him

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 08:58 AM

View PostChileanSeaBass, on 09 May 2013 - 08:48 AM, said:

I remember earlier this season, and last, there was a lot of talk about why Ruff chose Pominville as captain, and one of the points Paul Hamilton brought up was that Ruff didn't like to be "challenged" (like Drury). I think the same can be said about his choices as assistant coaches. Look around the NHL and most of the "elite" head coaches have at least one assistant with NHL head coaching experience. In Ruff's tenure this was never true (Lever, Ramsey, McCutcheon, Arniel, Patrick, Adams, Teppo), especially during the last few years, when guys were getting their first coaching gigs of any kind not in the minors or juniors, but as NHL assistants (Teppo, Adams, Patrick).

Here's a list of current NHL head coaches that have assistants with NHL head coaching experience:
Bylsma - Tony Granato (COL)
Babcock - Tom Rennery (NYR/EDM)
Quenneville - Mike Kitchen (STL)
Tippett - John Anderson (ATL)
Muller - Joh MacLean (NJ)
Therrien - Gerard Gallant (CLB)
Dineen - Craig Ramsay (ATL)
D.Sutter - John Stevens (PHI), Davis Payne (STL)
Tortorella - Mike Sullivan (BOS)
Vigneault - Rick Bowness (5 teams)
Hitchcock - Brad Shaw (NYI)
McLellan - Larry Robinson (NJ)

That doesn't even take into account NHL assistants with years and years of head coaching experience in the minors or juniors.

I think it will be very interesting to see who Rolston chooses as his assistants Does he go with comfort and tab Cassidy or let his recently retired brother cut his teeth at the NHL level? Does he keep some of Lindy's guys? Will he go with someone with legitimate NHL coaching experience, but who could be seen as a "threat" to supplant him should the Sabres falter? I don't care that Rolston never played in the NHL. That's a moot point. What I'd like to see are folks on the coaching staff that have "been around the block" at different levels of the game, and preferably, at least one assistant that has some NHL coaching experience (former head coach or longtime assistant). If the organization loves Patrick and Adams so much, then put them in charge of Rochester, and let them develop along with the players. I'm on board with Rolston as head coach, but would like to see him with some seasoned assistants.

Interesting point.....and look at how many of those teams are in the playoffs versus the percentage of those that don't have that experience but are out.......75% of teams with top assistants are in......of the teams that didn't make it only 17% of teams have a former head coach. I think we looked at this 2 years ago and it was similar......

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 09:05 AM

View Postd4rksabre, on 08 May 2013 - 09:41 AM, said:

I'd like to see new strength and conditioning coaches. This team consistently looks a step behind and the only time we see guys with jump it's because they're call ups.

We could also use an assistant with an eye for the power play which has suffered tremendously for years.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 09:09 AM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 09 May 2013 - 08:58 AM, said:

Interesting point.....and look at how many of those teams are in the playoffs versus the percentage of those that don't have that experience but are out.......75% of teams with top assistants are in......of the teams that didn't make it only 17% of teams have a former head coach. I think we looked at this 2 years ago and it was similar......

And those that didn't make the playoffs are two of the "up and coming" NHL head coaches (Muller, Dineen), guys who were highly respected in the minors and are in the first year+ as an NHL head coach.  

Year in, year out, Babcock is considered a top 3 or top 5 NHL head coach.  A spot opens up on his staff this year and who does he get? Tom Renney, a guy with extensive head coaching and front office player personnel experience.  He didn't add Kris Draper or some other recently retired former Wing, he got someone with first hand knowledge and experience.  I'm sure they butt heads all the time, but that's also an incredible resource to have with you behind the bench.  

That's what Rolston needs.  Not Chad Cassidy, Brian Rolston, or James Patrick.  Go get someone who has been there and knows the job.  Even a guy like Randy Cunneyworth (IIRC currently unemployed) who has limited NHL head coaching experience, but a good track record elsewhere.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 09:58 AM

I'm pretty confident that around this time last year Physics did a real analysis of assistant coach experience and team winning...and there was absolutely zero relationship. Next.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:10 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 09 May 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

I'm pretty confident that around this time last year Physics did a real analysis of assistant coach experience and team winning...and there was absolutely zero relationship. Next.

Maybe he was or was not using enough advanced stats.

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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:11 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 09 May 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

I'm pretty confident that around this time last year Physics did a real analysis of assistant coach experience and team winning...and there was absolutely zero relationship. Next.

I did, which is why I'm being careful when I think about the reasoning behind what might be a good fit.

Previous results summarized:

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No correlation to points percentage:
Assistant coach tenure with current team
Assistant coach total NHL coaching experience
Assistant coach total NHL head coaching experience
Assistant coach total AHL coaching experience
Assistant coach total junior/college coaching experience

No correlation to NHL head coaches tenure:
Assistant coach experience (any level)

As of July '12:
Average tenure of a current NHL head coach: 2.83 years
Average tenure of an assistant coach: 1.57 years
Teams with assistant coaches with more than three years of NHL head coaching experience: 2 (Renney, Robinson)


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Posted 09 May 2013 - 10:18 AM

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 09 May 2013 - 09:58 AM, said:

I'm pretty confident that around this time last year Physics did a real analysis of assistant coach experience and team winning...and there was absolutely zero relationship. Next.

I don't doubt that is true with an experienced roster with sprinkling of veteran winners.. But if we go with a youth movement as is expected, teachers may be important.