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#1 djp14150

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Posted 05 May 2013 - 10:55 PM



First off there is a major void n the club....

If you look back ver 3 year pans of drafting in the first 3 rounds and score the sabres on success/failure here is what I see

2002-2004:  buffalo drafted 6    top 9 forwards/top 6 Dmen/starting goalie.  Some of these players were traded.

2005-2007:  buffalo drafted 1.5 ...only weber and enroth to show and I give enroth a half point.

2008-2010:  buffalo drafts 6 ( includes the hodgson trade which effectively was flipping 1sts in consecutive years ).

2011-2013:  Right now at 5 with 4 more picks.

2005-2007 is the void with the team now that separates Vanek, miller, and stafford from the rest of the team.

I don't think buffalo should be all that active this year, instead keep thing open for 2014 UFA period and then swing for trades.

I see Miller and Stafford around the draft.  I see Vanek not being dealt at the draft but first talking to him about an extension and things can't be done then trade him  in September.

I see Miller brining back a pick or a quality prospect...but this depends on if they have to take a goalie back.

Stafford could be dealt for another player like burmistrov, be dealt for pick ... Low 1st, or 2 2nds, or be used as a trade chip to move up from 8th to 4th.

Vanek would return a 1 pick plus 2 top 4 young players on a team.  For comparison sake Pominville got a 1st and 2 top 5-8 prospects.  The flip f picks in 2014 was likely a settlement where buffalo waned one f Minnesota other 2 young goalies ( Kluemper, gustafffsen)..

A players I would target in trades...

Chris Stewart and bobby Ryan.

St Louis is in cap problems this offseason with so many RFA Stewart being one.  They could move their pick from Minnesota for him.  Ryan  could be gotten for Ennis, Stafford, and  Gerbe/Adam.

What I project right now in the 2014/2015 starting team....

Assuming miller and stafford are dealt. Not including this years first round picks who could have roles.

Vanek-hodgson- Ennis
Leino-grigorenko-Armia
Girgensons-Larrson-Ott
Foligno-Cattenacci-Flynn
Kaleta, Tropp.

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers-weber
Sekera-ruhwedel
McNabb

Enroth, Hackett, Makarov


After the drafted players the team would have alot of players they could move to turn them into impact players

The targeted player the want to get is Barkov at #4, this would crate an all Finland line in him armia, and Leino.

If Leino fails next season he becomes a likely contract buyout/amnesty in 2014.



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Posted 06 May 2013 - 12:07 AM

Bobby Ryan can be had for a combination of Ennis/Stafford/Adam/Gerbe?

Let me re-write this trade from Anaheim's perspective.

Trade one of the NHL's best power forwards for a diminutive streaky winger, a guy who's career is at an impass, a washed up prospect who is invisible in the minors, or a fire hydrant that scores slightly more than one.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:22 AM

View Postinkman, on 06 May 2013 - 12:07 AM, said:

Bobby Ryan can be had for a combination of Ennis/Stafford/Adam/Gerbe?

Let me re-write this trade from Anaheim's perspective.

Trade one of the NHL's best power forwards for a diminutive streaky winger, a guy who's career is at an impass, a washed up prospect who is invisible in the minors, or a fire hydrant that scores slightly more than one.

View Postinkman, on 06 May 2013 - 12:07 AM, said:

Bobby Ryan can be had for a combination of Ennis/Stafford/Adam/Gerbe?

Let me re-write this trade from Anaheim's perspective.

Trade one of the NHL's best power forwards for a diminutive streaky winger, a guy who's career is at an impass, a washed up prospect who is invisible in the minors, or a fire hydrant that scores slightly more than one.

Well...when you put it like that. :lol:

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 08:46 AM

If I were G.M....

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:18 AM

View Postbunomatic, on 06 May 2013 - 08:46 AM, said:

fixed

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:24 AM

Boys, boys, boys.  What else is there to start a new thread about?

#7 carpandean

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 11:44 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 06 May 2013 - 10:24 AM, said:

Boys, boys, boys.  What else is there to start a new thread about?

If I were owner ...

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:27 PM

View Postcarpandean, on 06 May 2013 - 11:44 AM, said:

If I were owner ...

If I was a power forward...

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:35 PM

If I was a hockey puck...

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:37 PM

We need a thread titled "If you could be any THING in hockey, what would it be?"

I might choose the goal line.  Nice view.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:38 PM

View PostSpndnchz, on 06 May 2013 - 01:37 PM, said:

We need a thread titled "If you could be any THING in hockey, what would it be?"

I might choose the goal line.  Nice view.

I thought you opposed the Tea Baggers?

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:42 PM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 06 May 2013 - 01:38 PM, said:

I thought you opposed the Tea Baggers?

All bagging aside, I'd be on video reviews!

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:47 PM

If I were a rich man.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 01:59 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 06 May 2013 - 01:47 PM, said:

If I were a rich man.

You'd buy a violin and dance on rooftops?

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:08 PM

View Postdjp14150, on 05 May 2013 - 10:55 PM, said:

Vanek-hodgson- Ennis
Leino-grigorenko-Armia
Girgensons-Larrson-Ott
Foligno-Cattenacci-Flynn
Kaleta, Tropp.

Ehrhoff - Pysyk
Myers-weber
Sekera-ruhwedel
McNabb

Enroth, Hackett, Makarov

Excellent team. Would guarantee us a top-3 pick in the 2014 draft. Exactly what we need. Just need to get a bit worse for 2015 so we can get McDavid and then we're all set...

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:21 PM

If I were or if I was I would..clearly.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 02:36 PM

If I only had a brain.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 04:09 PM

View PostVanek-Man, on 06 May 2013 - 02:08 PM, said:

Excellent team. Would guarantee us a top-3 pick in the 2014 draft. Exactly what we need. Just need to get a bit worse for 2015 so we can get McDavid and then we're all set...
Yeah that lineup has 50 loss potential. Might be a few lean years.  Not sure if TPegs can endure it.

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 06:02 PM

View Postinkman, on 06 May 2013 - 04:09 PM, said:


Yeah that lineup has 50 loss potential. Might be a few lean years.  Not sure if TPegs can endure it.

50 loss potential? They may not win a game in regulation. You might not be able to win with that team on NHL'14.

Edited by ubkev, 06 May 2013 - 06:03 PM.


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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:12 PM

Who are these analysts?

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 09:55 PM

View PostSwampD, on 06 May 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Who are these analysts?

I think he meant to say some analysis, not analysts

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Posted 06 May 2013 - 10:06 PM

View PostSwampD, on 06 May 2013 - 09:12 PM, said:

Who are these analysts?

They are analysts-therapists.  Kind of like Tobias.  They are analrapists.