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#1 dudacek

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:35 PM

Inspired by the Steve Ott booing comments thread, and repeated references to fans being sick of this team, I want to know: "how bad is it?"

Forget about logic and reason. Don't worry about potential, how good a player may or may not be, the available alternatives, or what kind of assets somebody would fetch in a trade. This is only about emotion.
All I want to know is how we (the true Sabre fans) really feel about our team.
Has the love affair gone sour and who is at fault?

I have chosen four phrases:
1) I love that guy!
2) He can play on my team.
3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere.
4) Get him out of here now!

I'd like you to slot key components of the current franchise experience under the heading that best describes the way you feel about them.

My picks:

1) I love that guy!
Players: Mike Weber, Thomas Vanek, Steve Ott, Marcus Foligno, Christian Ehrhoff, (included because he was the captain and the trade is so fresh) Jason Pominville
Others: Rick Jeanneret

2) He can play on my team.
Players: Ryan Miller, Tyler Myers, Mark Pysyk, Cody Hodgson, Tyler Ennis, Pat Kaleta, Ville Leino, Corey Tropp,
Others: Terry Pegula, Ted Black, Mike Robitaille, Paul Hamilton

3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere.
Players: Jhonas Enroth, Andrej Sekera, Adam Pardy, Kevin Porter, Brian Flynn, Jochen Hecht, John Scott, Mikhail Grigorenko, Matt Ellis, Cody McCormick
Others: Ron Rolston, Rob Ray, Harry Neale, John Vogl

4) Get him out of here now!
Players: Drew Stafford, Nathan Gerbe, Luke Adam,
Others: Darcy Regier, Jerry Sullivan, Bucky Gleason, Mike Harrington, the fans in the arena

Edited by Spndnchz, 20 April 2013 - 11:29 AM.


#2 ThirtyEight

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Posted 09 April 2013 - 11:52 PM

1) I love that guy!
Players: Jason Pominville, Ryan Miller, Cody Hodgson, Mark Pysyk (early edition I know, but love how simple he keeps it) and Mike Weber
Others: Mike Robitaille (love his game comments), Rick Jenneret, Terry Pegula (it might not have worked so far, but he is a huge help to the Sabres/WNY)

2) He can play on my team.
Players: Tyler Ennis, Thomas Vanek, Christian Ehrhoff, Steve Ott, Tyler Myers, Pat Kaleta, Andrej Sekera and Jochen Hecht
Others: Ted Black, Rob Ray

3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere.
Players: Marcus Folidno, Ville Leino, Corey Tropp, Jhonas Enroth, Adam Pardy, Kevin Porter, John Scott, Matt Ellis, Cody McCormick, Mikhail Grigorenko
Others: Ron Rolston, Paul Hamilton, Harry Neale, Darcy Regier, John Vogl, Brian Duff

4) Get him out of here now!
Players: Drew Stafford, Luke Adam, Brian Flynn and Nathan Gerbe (it hurts to put him here as he seems like a lovely person, but he is a tweener)
Others: Jerry Sullivan, Bucky Gleason, Mike Harrington

Edited by ThirtyEight, 09 April 2013 - 11:53 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 03:22 AM

Nice thought, but way too much typing.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 04:58 AM

Given that the roster make up is out of the fans and the players realm to change it, there is only one name I want gone from this team.....

Darcy Regier

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 06:38 AM

There isn't a single player on this roster that I wouldn't mind seeing moved in some sort of deal. I'm ready for a complete overhaul and don't care if they attempt to salvage anything from the current roster.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:04 AM

Interesting exercise. I only love Rick and for someone who wants radical change, I have too many players in the "he can play" category. (I'd put some of those players in the "wouldn't cry" category, too.)

I added Brian Duff, Danny Gare, Kevin Sylvester, the public address guy, Doug Allen, the little girl anthem singer, Sabretooth and the assistant coaches. Maybe Schopp and the Bulldog should be added, too.


1) I love that guy!
Others: Rick Jeanneret


2) He can play on my team.
Players: Mike Weber, Thomas Vanek, Steve Ott, Marcus Foligno, Tyler Myers, Cody Hodgson, Tyler Ennis, Jhonas Enroth, Mikhail Grigorenko, Nathan Gerbe, Kevin Porter, Brian Flynn

Others: Harry Neale (Two Minute Harry), Ted Black, Mike Robitaille, Paul Hamilton, Jerry Sullivan, Bucky Gleason, Mike Harrington, Sabretooth, little girl anthem singer, Brian Duff


3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere.

Players: Christian Ehrhoff, Pat Kaleta, Andrej Sekera, Jochen Hecht, Cody McCormick, Matt Ellis, Luke Adam

Others: John Vogl, Ron Rolston, Rob Ray, Terry Pegula, Doug Allen, Danny Gare


4) Get him out of here now!
Players: Ryan Miller, Ville Leino, John Scott, Drew Stafford

Others: Darcy Regier, the fans in the arena, public address guy, Kevin Sylvester, assistant coaches


Too early to tell: Mark Pysyk, Corey Tropp, Adam Pardy

Edited by PASabreFan, 10 April 2013 - 08:06 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:13 AM

I love lamp


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:20 AM

I love that guy- Steve Ott

I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere- Everyone not named Ott or Stafford

Get him out of here now- Drew Stafford

#9 Glass Case Of Emotion

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 08:51 AM

:cry:

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:00 AM

I'm only bothering with two categories...

1) I love that guy!
Players: You have to be kidding me.

Others: The usher in my section at FNC, Robitaille

4) Get him out of here now!
Players: Miller, Leino, Scott, Stafford, Hecht, Ellis, Adam, & Vanek

Others: Regier, Rolston, assistant coaches(all of them), 300 level concession workers, Chet & Muffy(they are FAR worse than fans that boo), Sylvester/Peters

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:03 AM

chetandmuffy.com is available! ahhmjusssayn

There are so few good domain names left.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:05 AM

My picks:

1) I love that guy!
Players: Cody Hodgson, Thomas Vanek, Pat Kaleta, Marcus Foligno, Christian Ehrhoff, Tyler Ennis, Grigorenko, Tyler Myers
Others: Rick Jeanneret, Ted Black, Terry Pegula

2) He can play on my team.
Players: Ryan Miller, Mike Weber, Mark Pysyk, Ville Leino, Corey Tropp, Steve Ott
Others: Mike Robitaille, Paul Hamilton

3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere.
Players: Jhonas Enroth, Andrej Sekera, Adam Pardy, Kevin Porter, Brian Flynn, John Scott, Cody McCormick
Others: Ron Rolston, Rob Ray, Drrcy Regier,

4) Get him out of here now!
Players: Drew Stafford, Nathan Gerbe, Luke Adam, Jochen Hecht, Matt Ellis
Others: Harry Neal

Edited by WildCard, 10 April 2013 - 10:05 AM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:37 AM

That is a lot of words.

Who do I love?

I love George ...



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:42 AM

1) I love that guy!

Ott, Foligno, Ennis, Kaleta, Gerbe, Myers, Weber, Miller


Pegula

2) He can play on my team.

Vanek, Hodgson, Pysyk, Sekera, Ehrhoff

Black

3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere.

Enroth, Pardy, Porter, Flynn, Hecht, Scott, Adam


4) Get him out of here now!

Stafford

Darcy

5)  New Category:  Incomplete -- Not enough info to decide

Griggy, Leino, Tropp

Rolston

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:06 AM

View Postweave, on 10 April 2013 - 08:20 AM, said:

I love that guy- Steve Ott

I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere- Everyone not named Ott or Stafford

Get him out of here now- Drew Stafford

Pretty much how I'd go, but some of the "I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere" crew (e.g., Hodgson) would be under "he can play on my team."  Oh, and Darcy would join Stafford.

The biggest problem is that, while most fall under the "can play" and "wouldn't cry" categories, together they don't make a team.  As much as it pains me to borrow a line from Andrew Peters, I'm fine with Ennis on the team, but I couldn't have a team with 12 Ennises at forward.  Taken individually, Darcy makes good trades and has brought in some good players; taken together, they've been mediocre at best for most of their recent history.

#16 Glass Case Of Emotion

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:10 AM

View Postcarpandean, on 10 April 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Pretty much how I'd go, but some of the "I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere" crew (e.g., Hodgson) would be under "he can play on my team."  Oh, and Darcy would join Stafford.

The biggest problem is that, while most fall under the "can play" and "wouldn't cry" categories, together they don't make a team.  As much as it pains me to borrow a line from Andrew Peters, I'm fine with Ennis on the team, but I couldn't have a team with 12 Ennises at forward.  Taken individually, Darcy makes good trades and has brought in some good players; taken together, they've been mediocre at best for most of their recent history.

You would also add "charts" to the first category, correct?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:12 AM

View Postcarpandean, on 10 April 2013 - 11:06 AM, said:

Pretty much how I'd go, but some of the "I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere" crew (e.g., Hodgson) would be under "he can play on my team."  Oh, and Darcy would join Stafford.

The biggest problem is that, while most fall under the "can play" and "wouldn't cry" categories, together they don't make a team. As much as it pains me to borrow a line from Andrew Peters, I'm fine with Ennis on the team, but I couldn't have a team with 12 Ennises at forward.  Taken individually, Darcy makes good trades and has brought in some good players; taken together, they've been mediocre at best for most of their recent history.

Which is why I collectively grouped them under "wouldn't cry if they went elsewhere".

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:13 AM

View PostPASabreFan, on 10 April 2013 - 10:03 AM, said:

chetandmuffy.com is available! ahhmjusssayn

There are so few good domain names left.

Intriguing... I could easily set up a photoblog where fans could contribute candid photos of chet and muffy...

#19 carpandean

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 11:22 AM

View PostGlass Case Of Emotion, on 10 April 2013 - 11:10 AM, said:

You would also add "charts" to the first category, correct?

Charts are bigger than the Sabres.  They don't have the power to get rid of them. ;)


View Postweave, on 10 April 2013 - 11:12 AM, said:

Which is why I collectively grouped them under "wouldn't cry if they went elsewhere".

Good point.  There are a few, though, that I could name 15+ guys that I'd be more OK with moving, so they are (slightly) distinguished.

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:14 PM

View PostAreola 51, on 10 April 2013 - 08:13 AM, said:

I love lamp
Are you just looking at things in the office and saying you love them?

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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:18 PM



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Posted 10 April 2013 - 12:19 PM

Rebuilding edition.

1) I love that guy!
Players: Tyler Ennis, Ryan Miller, Christian Ehrhoff, Tyler Myers
Others: Rick Jeanneret, Ted Black, Terry Pegula, Brian Duff

2) He can play on my team.
Players: Cody Hodgson, Thomas Vanek, Steve Ott, Mark Pysyk, Pommenstein
Others: Darcy Regier, Rob Ray, Harry Neale, Mike Robitaille

3) I wouldn't cry if he went elsewhere
Players: Nathan Gerbe, Pat Kaleta, Marcus Foligno, Grigorenko, John Scott, Mike Weber, Andrej Sekera, Jhonas Enroth, Ville Leino, Jochen Hecht, Andrew Sulzer, and the career AHL'ers (Adam Pardy, Kevin Porter, Brian Flynn, Cody McCormick, Luke Adam, Matt Ellis, Corey Tropp)
Others: Ron Rolston, Paul Hamilton, Kevin Sylvester

4) Get him out of here now!
Players: Drew Stafford; Members of the old guard can be placed here for the right price (Vanek, Hecht, possibly Miller)


Edited by IKnowPhysics, 10 April 2013 - 12:24 PM.


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Posted 10 April 2013 - 10:21 PM

Sabretooth.





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