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[BuffaninATL]

I did not see this topic listed in S.S., so here goes .......

http://www.wgr550.co...rick-R/15845059

Intriguing to me to say the least - if DR could pull this off, it might be the only way he stays. Thoughts ?

[Peppy22]

Since Colorado might be looking for a new coach as well, I think the chance is lik 5%. No way Roy would take the Sabres over the Avs.

[d4rksabre]

Peppy22, on 20 March 2013 - 04:01 PM, said:

Since Colorado might be looking for a new coach as well, I think the chance is lik 5%. No way Roy would take the Sabres over the Avs.

Why wouldn't he like the idea of coaching his star prospect? Plus taking over a team with solid goaltending would probably appeal to him.

Edited by d4rksabre, 20 March 2013 - 04:06 PM.

[IKnowPhysics]

Theoretically, we could pay him more and give him a higher paid roster.

[Doohickie]

He was offered the head coaching job in Colorado previously and didn't take it.



I lived in Detroit in the '90s.  I followed the Wings and enjoyed their rise to winning the Cup.  As such, I can't stand Patrick Roy.  He's an ######.  I hope I don't have to get used to him as coach of the Sabres, but if it happens, it happens.

[Sabres Fan In NS]

I have stated it many times.

I want Roy to be the next Sabres coach.

Doohickie, on 20 March 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

He was offered the head coaching job in Colorado previously and didn't take it.



I lived in Detroit in the '90s.  I followed the Wings and enjoyed their rise to winning the Cup.  As such, I can't stand Patrick Roy.  He's an ######.  I hope I don't have to get used to him as coach of the Sabres, but if it happens, it happens.

Speaking of Detroit.

I would love it if Jim Nill became the next Sabres GM, but I think he really likes his gig in Detroit.

Maybe the lure of a GM job would be enticing.

[sizzlemeister]

I would be all for it.

[Vanek-Man]

d4rksabre, on 20 March 2013 - 04:05 PM, said:

Why wouldn't he like the idea of coaching his star prospect? Plus taking over a team with solid goaltending would probably appeal to him.

and his son is in the organization.

[apuszczalowski]

Sure, why not?

I would forgive Darcy for bringing in a guy with almost no proffesional coaching experience (only Jr level) and hasn't proven a thing as a head coach, just because he was a really good NHL goalie. Was Borrasso, Hasek, or Fuhr too busy? Atlleast they can follow in the former Sabres player getting a coaching gig here
why not Gretzky?

[d4rksabre]

Vanek-Man, on 20 March 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

and his son is in the organization.

Yup. We've certainly got some connections that make it an interesting option for him.

[Sabres Fan In NS]

apuszczalowski, on 20 March 2013 - 04:44 PM, said:

Sure, why not?

I would forgive Darcy for bringing in a guy with almost no proffesional coaching experience (only Jr level) and hasn't proven a thing as a head coach, just because he was a really good NHL goalie. Was Borrasso, Hasek, or Fuhr too busy? Atlleast they can follow in the former Sabres player getting a coaching gig here
why not Gretzky?

He did coach the Remparts to a pretty surprising Memorial Cup in 2006.

[apuszczalowski]

Sabres Fan In NS, on 20 March 2013 - 04:49 PM, said:

He did coach the Remparts to a pretty surprising Memorial Cup in 2006.

Didn't Ron Rolston coach the US Junior team to a good finish one year too?
doesn't equal anything in the pros....

[tom webster]

Vanek-Man, on 20 March 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

and his son is in the organization.

Plus Buffalo gives him a chance to do something he couldn't do in Colorado, beat the hell out of Montreal 6 to 8 times per year.

[HopefulFuture]

Pegula will be all over this, he has a French last name.....
Could this be Pegula's modern day link with a "French Connection"

[26CornerBlitz]

I would love it if Roy became the next Sabres' head coach.

[North Buffalo]

Roy is a horses ass, no way even if he is talented.

[shrader]

Vanek-Man, on 20 March 2013 - 04:37 PM, said:

and his son is in the organization.

Not that his kid has any future at the NHL level, but I want no part of a father-son coaching combination.  It just seems like a recipe for disaster.  But like I said, the kid will more than likely never make it, so its not an issue here.

[Grumpy]

Please!  Jeremy White is a Syracuse guy who grew up on BB and Lax.  He's learned a little about our two sports since he moved here but his arrogance is comical. We need a GM. Hell one to two years ago these WGR guys loved LR and DR and ripped any caller who questioned them. Those who followed the game KNEW our team was not built for a cup. Their(WGR) opinions shift with the winds.  People with a knowledge of this sport and this organization know our GM is out of the loop on how to build a team for today's NHL. TP and TB need to do their homework and replace this GM with a competent individual, and then step back and let him rebuild the entire hockey side of the business. If Roy is part of that, great.  I like him, but that has to be the next GM's  decision.   The way these GR guys promote each other's articles is the epitome of nepotism.

Edited by Grumpy, 20 March 2013 - 05:57 PM.

[716]

Call me crazy but I like Rolston.

[Vanek-Man]

shrader, on 20 March 2013 - 05:32 PM, said:

Not that his kid has any future at the NHL level, but I want no part of a father-son coaching combination.  It just seems like a recipe for disaster.  But like I said, the kid will more than likely never make it, so its not an issue here.

yea I know that but it could be enough for him to come with an open mind for an interview.

thing about Roy that worries me, is his hot temper. I once read an article that quotes few sources close to Roy who said no way his hot temper will ever translate to the NHL.

[Sabres Fan In NS]

Vanek-Man, on 20 March 2013 - 06:00 PM, said:

yea I know that but it could be enough for him to come with an open mind for an interview.

thing about Roy that worries me, is his hot temper. I once read an article that quotes few sources close to Roy who said no way his hot temper will ever translate to the NHL.

His temper is one of the reasons that I want him as the next coach of the Sabres.  A real no-non-sense kind of guy.

[87168]

716, on 20 March 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

Call me crazy but I like Rolston.

as do I.

[BRAWNDO]

Doohickie, on 20 March 2013 - 04:28 PM, said:

He was offered the head coaching job in Colorado previously and didn't take it.



I lived in Detroit in the '90s.  I followed the Wings and enjoyed their rise to winning the Cup.  As such, I can't stand Patrick Roy.  He's an ######.  I hope I don't have to get used to him as coach of the Sabres, but if it happens, it happens.

True, but he would be Buffalo's #######.

[North Buffalo]

Sabres Fan In NS, on 20 March 2013 - 06:10 PM, said:

His temper is one of the reasons that I want him as the next coach of the Sabres.  A real no-non-sense kind of guy.

Bring back Schoenfeld, who actually knows how to coach at this level if you are going to go that route.  I am sure there are better options out there than Roy who have similar qualities.

Schoenfeld from what I hear down state actually has improved his teaching and coaching and is directing himself with more tact in front of the media.  P.S. So has Torterella, whose temper really hasn't dampened... He is just better and choosing when to show it and Schoeny is following his lead.

P.S. Darcy couldn't handle either Roy or Schoenfeld and they wouldn't tolerate him.

[Grumpy]

It's fun to live in the past.

[North Buffalo]

Grumpy, on 20 March 2013 - 06:33 PM, said:

It's fun to live in the past.

At this point it is better than living in the present with this team...  oh the nostalgia of it all gives me goose bumps...  Really this is more just idle chatter for those of us wish to live in the future, but know the light ahead is not the end of the tunnel, so we regress to the past before there was a tunnel to go thru.

Sponsored by Deep Thoughts... think it was a Saturday Night Live skit.

Edited by North Buffalo, 20 March 2013 - 06:40 PM.

[WildCard]

I'd support it, but it kind of gives me a feeling similar to when the Bills hired Marrone; why take a gamble on a lower level coach when there are proven coaches all around you? The Lightening's AHL coach and the Marlie's coach, the first of which is Cooper (forgot the second) have dominated the leagues in recent years so it's hard to deny that success and pick a junior coach based off his NHL feats/attitude as a player.

On the other hand, the article is right in that Roy has rings and an identity that could fit this team. That being said, Gretzky had rings too, more than Roy, and didn't do ######.

[Grumpy]

North Buffalo, on 20 March 2013 - 06:39 PM, said:

At this point it is better than living in the present with this team...  oh the nostalgia of it all gives me goose bumps...  Really this is more just idle chatter for those of us wish to live in the future, but know the light ahead is not the end of the tunnel, so we regress to the past before there was a tunnel to go thru.

Sponsored by Deep Thoughts... think it was a Saturday Night Live skit.

Loved Shoeny. He last coached in the NHL in 99.

[North Buffalo]

Grumpy, on 20 March 2013 - 06:53 PM, said:

Loved Shoeny. He last coached in the NHL in 99.

  Koharsky is gone.

Edited by North Buffalo, 20 March 2013 - 07:08 PM.

[X. Benedict]

North Buffalo, on 20 March 2013 - 07:07 PM, said:

  Koharsky is gone.

So are the donuts.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

North Buffalo, on 20 March 2013 - 06:26 PM, said:

Bring back Schoenfeld, who actually knows how to coach at this level if you are going to go that route.  I am sure there are better options out there than Roy who have similar qualities.

Schoenfeld from what I hear down state actually has improved his teaching and coaching and is directing himself with more tact in front of the media.  P.S. So has Torterella, whose temper really hasn't dampened... He is just better and choosing when to show it and Schoeny is following his lead.

P.S. Darcy couldn't handle either Roy or Schoenfeld and they wouldn't tolerate him.

We are running out of time, but when Lindy got canned I suggested Schoenfeld and Ken Gernander for GM/Coach......

We can even let Gernander finish off in Hartford this year, but Schoney is a hybrid GM/Coach.....pretty much a mini-Muckler. I love what NY has done, even though they have been a disappointment so far this year. I would double down on what those guys do any day.

Schoney could have been behind the bench the past month+ evaluating who has what it takes to stay and who should go. He could have controlled the deadline, then at the end of the year, Gernanader who is the perfect mix of bulldog and teacher, could come in. I would have loved this.....although NYR may not like the raid.

And you are correct.....no way a guy like Schoenfeld comes in and listens to a guy like Darcy. This is where Bucky Gleason is 100% believable. Probably 30% of the league would laugh at the thought.

[Vanek-Man]

716, on 20 March 2013 - 05:57 PM, said:

Call me crazy but I like Rolston.

I'm not a big fan, just haven't seen enough. rolston has been dealt a very bad hand. you can't say this sabres team has quit on him or are not trying, they just lack talent. but, IMO this team is just as bad as with ruff. no difference. defensively, they may be worse. the big thing to me is, nothing smells mediocrity more then keeping rolston here. I want both Darcy and RR gone but how do you justify bringing him back? this organization needs new blood.

[North Buffalo]

Ghost of Dwight Drane, on 20 March 2013 - 07:26 PM, said:

We are running out of time, but when Lindy got canned I suggested Schoenfeld and Ken Gernander for GM/Coach......

We can even let Gernander finish off in Hartford this year, but Schoney is a hybrid GM/Coach.....pretty much a mini-Muckler. I love what NY has done, even though they have been a disappointment so far this year. I would double down on what those guys do any day.

Schoney could have been behind the bench the past month+ evaluating who has what it takes to stay and who should go. He could have controlled the deadline, then at the end of the year, Gernanader who is the perfect mix of bulldog and teacher, could come in. I would have loved this.....although NYR may not like the raid.

And you are correct.....no way a guy like Schoenfeld comes in and listens to a guy like Darcy. This is where Bucky Gleason is 100% believable. Probably 30% of the league would laugh at the thought.

I forgot about what Gernanader is doing with the whale, been doing a really good job there from all reports.  Not a bad idea.  Hey T-Pegs.... this would be sort of thinking out of the box, at least out of the Darcy box you got snookered into.

[bunomatic]

Roy has a hair trigger temper. I likey !  I never cared for him as a player but always admired his fire.

[sizzlemeister]

Isn't having a temper one of the complaints the players had against Ruff?

[North Buffalo]

sizzlemeister, on 20 March 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Isn't having a temper one of the complaints the players had against Ruff?

Same one they have for Tortorella... so what... players complain.

Edited by North Buffalo, 20 March 2013 - 09:34 PM.

[bunomatic]

sizzlemeister, on 20 March 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Isn't having a temper one of the complaints the players had against Ruff?

  It wasn't one of my complaints. Guys that don't like to work to win might complain. Not sure how he treats his players which are kids but I know he'd be there for his team. Saw it numerous times during his career.

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

sizzlemeister, on 20 March 2013 - 09:25 PM, said:

Isn't having a temper one of the complaints the players had against Ruff?

I think Lindy didn't so much have a temper.....but was more like Mommy Dearest. Just so much making sure he had control over people that he never allowed true growth from his players. Like I have said before, every single talented guy here with some jam and leadership left under questionable terms. Peca, Gilmour, Drury, etc......

Torts is a softie. He puts on a show, and there is method to his madness.......but I think he is coming from a more truthful place in his coaching than Ruff. I think Ruff is projecting his own insecurities on his players. Torts is trying to "tweak" guys, and he appreciates real leaders. It doesn't always work and you can lose guys, but he is like the Secretary of Defense with classified information. Ruff reminded me of a guy stuck teaching at Houghton who felt he should be at Harvard.

[Tondas]

While we're walking down memory lane, how about Dudley (GM) and Craig Ramsay (Coach)?

[Ghost of Dwight Drane]

Tondas, on 20 March 2013 - 10:28 PM, said:

While we're walking down memory lane, how about Dudley (GM) and Craig Ramsay (Coach)?

Dudley has been good and I know he is a popular name. Better than Darcy for sure.

I just feel Schoenfeld is legit in that he wears multiple hats for an organization I really respect. They have old school guys top to bottom in management and try to play a gutsy game. He would have made sense in that he could come here before the deadline and coached and GM'd until summer. We have just wasted another season. If moves are made.....I fear Pegula has pressured Darcy to bring in some household names in trades, and Ted Black is "keeping an eye on things".....and we will be left with another jumble.

In all honesty, Pegula should just go all Ted Turner and coach a few games himself. What's the worst that can happen?