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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:27 PM

he went.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

The. FUKC?!

So stupid.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:29 PM

View PostBuffaloSoldier2010, on 15 March 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

he went.

Bloody hell ...

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The Sabres have assigned forward Mikhail Grigorenko to Quebec (QMJHL).

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In a long string of idiotic moves by the Sabres recently, this is the cherry on top ... :censored: .

How stupid is this ..........

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

I'm not sure if sending him back is the right move, but I don't think it's the wrong one, if that makes sense. I'd probably rather he lead Quebec on a Memorial Cup run than play 5 minutes with Scott during this tire fire of a season. Is it better for his development? I don't know.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 15 March 2013 - 02:29 PM, said:

The. FUKC?!

So stupid.

View PostBuffaloSoldier2010, on 15 March 2013 - 02:27 PM, said:

he went.

He never did get to the 23 games mark - no coincidence they did this now

Edited by ThirtyEight, 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM

per vogl

https://twitter.com/...645987770462209

this move. it's just so damn. ... i dunno, equivocal. wishy-washy. pantie-waisted (sorry ladies).

y'know -- of all the darcy-regier moves in the world, this is like the darcy-regierist.

Edited by That Aud Smell, 15 March 2013 - 02:33 PM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:31 PM

Not Awesome.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:35 PM

Let me add an addendum to my previous post. If this move is based on what is best for his development, then good. If it's because Regier needed a roster spot for Leino, then, let's just say I'll be putting the board's language filter to the test.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

So he can be called back up this season; GR is saying?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

like he's going to further deve

View PostTrueBluePhD, on 15 March 2013 - 02:35 PM, said:

Let me add an addendum to my previous post. If this move is based on what is best for his development, then good. If it's because Regier needed a roster spot for Leino, then, let's just say I'll be putting the board's language filter to the test.

like he's going to further develop in the Q. this is just nonsense. i don't care how they couch it or spin it. this is complete and utter nonsense. it might not have been working out to do it this way, but dammit, you brought him in at the beginning of the year, committed to a year of his entry-level deal ... now, just, let it ride, take your lumps ... don't do ... neither.

FAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK, i hate this FO. i just hate it.

EDIT: he can be called back? :huh: that could mean something quite different. maybe they need to park him there for a few games while they work out a trade?

Edited by That Aud Smell, 15 March 2013 - 02:38 PM.


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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:37 PM

And Roy with the reach around for Darcy.

DR presser at 4 o'clock:

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

This is the kind of jerking around that makes playing in the KHL all the more viable for him.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

View PostThirtyEight, on 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:

He never did get to the 23 games mark - no coincidence they did this now
What is the importance of the 23 games mark?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:39 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 15 March 2013 - 02:30 PM, said:



y'know -- of all the darcy-regier moves in the world, this is like the darcy-regierist.

I laughed while dying a little inside. :wallbash:

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:40 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 15 March 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

This is the kind of jerking around that makes playing in the KHL all the more viable for him.

He doesn't want to play there.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:40 PM

View PostSpndnchz, on 15 March 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

And Roy with the reach around for Darcy.

DR presser at 4 o'clock:

Is he stepping down?

Maybe Hecht is getting an extension?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:41 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 15 March 2013 - 02:37 PM, said:

EDIT: he can be called back? :huh: that could mean something quite different. maybe they need to park him there for a few games while they work out a trade?

Or they could just waive the worthlessness that is TJ Brennan. If this is anything but development based just ugh.....

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:41 PM

View PostLanny, on 15 March 2013 - 02:39 PM, said:

What is the importance of the 23 games mark?

7 years to UFA.  By not skating the 23rd game this year won't count towards the 7.  Still takes a year of his entry level contract though.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:42 PM

My only thought....Pegula should fire Regier plain and simple.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:46 PM

I guess the press conference can shed more light on this? I'm not sure what the point of this is. I get why this timing. But why not earlier? If the last few games were a test, maybe give him more than 5 minutes

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:49 PM

They mismanaged him so badly this season it's just painful.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:51 PM

View PostThirtyEight, on 15 March 2013 - 02:46 PM, said:

I guess the press conference can shed more light on this? I'm not sure what the point of this is. I get why this timing. But why not earlier? If the last few games were a test, maybe give him more than 5 minutes

It will be interesting. As Ink suggested up thread, RR probably didn't go to bat for him since he's got his AHL players chomping at the bit.  

And Raptorze is right, he didn't appear to be playing hard.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:52 PM

Regier presser:



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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:53 PM

View PostSpndnchz, on 15 March 2013 - 02:41 PM, said:

7 years to UFA. By not skating the 23rd game this year won't count towards the 7. Still takes a year of his entry level contract though.

wait, wait -- now that is the darcy-regieriest move ever.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:56 PM

so much for the Ott Grigo Leino line.......

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:57 PM

View PostSpndnchz, on 15 March 2013 - 02:40 PM, said:

He doesn't want to play there.

He might want to now after experiencing 'playing' for the Sabres.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

If grigorenko is the future of the franchise, then he should be in buffalo playing, not in buffalo doing nothing and not in the Q.  The power play is dead last in the NHL and he can't even get a sniff of it.  It was reported that Rolston doesn't even let him practice on the power play.  Rolston has grigorenko stand next to him and listen while the power play is worked on.  A dead last power play and one of your most talented player can't even sniff it.  

On second thought maybe the kid isn't ready.  Even with John Scott on his wing he only has 5 points so maybe he should go back.

In the mean time Brennan and Hecht remain on the team.

Wow!  Just Wow!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 02:59 PM

View Postnobody, on 15 March 2013 - 02:57 PM, said:

He might want to now after experiencing 'playing' for the Sabres.

our best hope is that neither DR nor RR are here next year, and the kid gets to come in with a clean slate.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:00 PM

vanek hodgson Pomminstein
ott        ennis     leino
foligno  porter    flynn
gerbe   hecht   stafford
scott*              kaleta***

so this is it right?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:01 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 15 March 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

wait, wait -- now that is the darcy-regieriest move ever.

The only way this makes sense is if he is part of a trade package and the new team doesn't want to blow it since they don't need him. Say..Stafford, Regehr and Grigs for Bobby Ryan.....

This is the 3% Sabre optimist in me talking.....

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:02 PM

View Postsabres4life19, on 15 March 2013 - 03:00 PM, said:

vanek hodgson Pomminstein
ott ennis leino
foligno  porter flynn
gerbe   hecht   stafford
scott*   kaleta***

so this is it right?

Yup

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:04 PM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 15 March 2013 - 02:53 PM, said:

wait, wait -- now that is the darcy-regieriest move ever.

I AM SO FRIGGIN' PISSED OFF AT DR RIGHT NOW!!

YES!!  THE CAPS ARE ON PURPOSE ... I AM SPITTING NAILS.  IT AIN'T PRETTY IN NS RIGHT NOW!!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:06 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 15 March 2013 - 03:01 PM, said:

The only way this makes sense is if he is part of a trade package and the new team doesn't want to blow it since they don't need him. Say..Stafford, Regehr and Grigs for Bobby Ryan.....

This is the 3% Sabre optimist in me talking.....

you dont have to send someone to juniors/minors to trade them. it wouldnt have anything to do with a trade. if he was part of a trade he would just be gone.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

View Postsabres4life19, on 15 March 2013 - 03:06 PM, said:

you dont have to send someone to juniors/minors to trade them. it wouldnt have anything to do with a trade. if he was part of a trade he would just be gone.

to save the year on UFA....if he goes to a contender, they don't need him up right now

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

Ok.  Obviously I spent too long actually working and not checking SabreSpace today.  What the ###### is going on?  Are they being stupid again?

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM

Grigs is not good enough at this point of his career to get regular ice time on a bad team.
He's not ready. The mistake is not sending him down, it was keeping him up in the first place.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:11 PM

View PostGhost of Dwight Drane, on 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

to save the year on UFA....if he goes to a contender, they don't need him up right now

Why can't the team he is traded to just send him down? Also talk about overpayment for Ryan!

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

I guess I'm in the minority by not hating this move at all.  He ain't gonna play with the Sabres (a diff topic for another day) so let him get a nice playoff run in Juniors, maybe get a tryou with the Amerks at seasons end and be NHL/AHL ready next season.  I like it.

View Postdudacek, on 15 March 2013 - 03:09 PM, said:

Grigs is not good enough at this point of his career to get regular ice time on a bad team.
He's not ready. The mistake is not sending him down, it was keeping him up in the first place.
Agreed

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:14 PM

View PostThirtyEight, on 15 March 2013 - 03:11 PM, said:

Why can't the team he is traded to just send him down? Also talk about overpayment for Ryan!

Because the trade isn't today...it's a week or 2 from today....

I'm just trying to pull something positive out of my arse.....and I don't think that is overpayment....pretty much a 1st round pick that isn't precocious...and 2, 2nd round picks you could get for those other 2.

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Posted 15 March 2013 - 03:15 PM

View Postinkman, on 15 March 2013 - 03:13 PM, said:

I guess I'm in the minority by not hating this move at all.  He ain't gonna play with the Sabres (a diff topic for another day) so let him get a nice playoff run in Juniors, maybe get a tryou with the Amerks at seasons end and be NHL/AHL ready next season.  I like it.

He can't play in the AHL for another 15 months.

I think the issue is more - why didn't he get NHL time? RR really screwed the guy. I agree 20mins in the Q is better than 5 in the NHL. But why didn't he get 10 in the NHL