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#1 thewookie1

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:49 AM

Is there a limit on a signing bonus?

Like is it possible to sign Perry to a 8 yr 40mil contract with 3 mil signing bonuses every year in order to keep his cap hit at 5mil.
If so, why not do similair contracts for Miller, Pommers, and Vanek?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 01:45 AM

Some of the bonus counts against the cap, but not all of it.  I'm not sure if the percentage that counts in the cap hit goes up in subsequent years.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:15 AM

I believe the whole of a signing bonus counts on the cap - the point of it was to make the actual salary more even across the years - and it also makes the player more tradable e.g. Shea Weber gets $26 million of his contract in 366 days, then the remaining 80 odd over the next 13 years

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:49 AM

View PostThirtyEight, on 09 March 2013 - 05:15 AM, said:

I believe the whole of a signing bonus counts on the cap - the point of it was to make the actual salary more even across the years - and it also makes the player more tradable e.g. Shea Weber gets $26 million of his contract in 366 days, then the remaining 80 odd over the next 13 years

I believe you are correct.  See many recent contracts for Sabre players too.

I think there was talk of changing the way upfront / bonuses worked in the new CBA.  Not sure how all that worked out, though.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 06:58 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 March 2013 - 06:49 AM, said:

I believe you are correct.  See many recent contracts for Sabre players too.

I think there was talk of changing the way upfront / bonuses worked in the new CBA.  Not sure how all that worked out, though.

Bonuses are treated exactly the same as regular salary in regards to the cap. The only difference is the player gets all the money on July 1 rather than payday. The issue to address the backloaded contracts was to reduce the variation between years. I don't think anything changed in the allowable split between bonus and salary.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:44 AM

But Getzlaf has a cap hit of 8.2 which matches his 66mil in contract years, not his 6 mil in bonuses.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 07:52 AM

Per capgeek.com ...

http://capgeek.com/player/311

His contract value of $66 Milion includes the signing bonuses.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:42 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 March 2013 - 07:52 AM, said:

Per capgeek.com ...

http://capgeek.com/player/311

His contract value of $66 Milion includes the signing bonuses.

Well that certianly doesn't help Buffalo in the slightest; how the hell are we going to get 4 stars on the team like Chicago does?

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 10:44 AM

View Postthewookie1, on 09 March 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

Well that certianly doesn't help Buffalo in the slightest; how the hell are we going to get 4 stars on the team like Chicago does?

  Get rid of Darcy

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:19 PM

View Postthewookie1, on 09 March 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

Well that certianly doesn't help Buffalo in the slightest; how the hell are we going to get 4 stars on the team like Chicago does?

Losin' for Drouin.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 12:29 PM

View Postthewookie1, on 09 March 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

Well that certianly doesn't help Buffalo in the slightest; how the hell are we going to get 4 stars on the team like Chicago does?

Sell. Sell. Sell.

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Posted 09 March 2013 - 05:34 PM

View Postthewookie1, on 09 March 2013 - 10:42 AM, said:

Well that certianly doesn't help Buffalo in the slightest; how the hell are we going to get 4 stars on the team like Chicago does?

Pay 8 of your 15 forwards less than a million.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 07:36 AM

View Postweave, on 09 March 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

Losin' for Drouin.

*Those who like it, like it a lot.*

I like it.  I like it a lot.


Bonus points to anyone who knows the quote that I quoted in the first part of my post.

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 10 March 2013 - 07:36 AM.


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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:18 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 10 March 2013 - 07:36 AM, said:



*Those who like it, like it a lot.*

I like it.  I like it a lot.


Bonus points to anyone who knows the quote that I quoted in the first part of my post.

Alexander Keith's Nova Scotia Brewery Logo

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:32 AM

View Postweave, on 09 March 2013 - 12:19 PM, said:

Losin' for Drouin.

Brewin' for Drouin?

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:42 AM

View PostBRAWNDO, on 10 March 2013 - 08:18 AM, said:

Alexander Keith's Nova Scotia Brewery Logo

Ding, ding, ding ... we have a winner.

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 10 March 2013 - 08:32 AM, said:

Brewin' for Drouin?

:beer:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 08:56 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 10 March 2013 - 08:42 AM, said:





:beer:

Won't be very tasty. :sick:  But in the end will be satisfying, so drink up.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:50 AM

View Post26CornerBlitz, on 10 March 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

Won't be very tasty. :sick:  But in the end will be satisfying, so drink up.

That's what he said.

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 10:51 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 10 March 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

That's what he said.

:wub:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 11:40 AM

View PostSpndnchz, on 10 March 2013 - 10:50 AM, said:

That's what he said.

Walked right into that....shoulda seen it coming....wait, did I spell that right? :lol:

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Posted 10 March 2013 - 05:02 PM

FORWARDS
Thomas Vanek ($7.143m) / Cody Hodgson ($3.00m) / Jason Pominville ($5.300m)
Steve Ott ($2.950m) / Tyler Ennis ($2.813m) / Corey Perry ($8.500m)
Nathan Gerbe ($1.450m) / Mikhail Grigorenko ($1.775m) / Marcus Foligno ($0.900m)
Patrick Kaleta ($1.250m) / Kevin Porter ($0.538m) / Brian Flynn ($1.074m)
Corey Tropp ($0.778m)
DEFENSEMEN
Christian Ehrhoff ($4.000m) / Alexander Sulzer ($1.025m)
Tyler Myers ($5.500m) / Robyn Regehr ($2.500m)
Mike Weber ($1.500m) / Andrej Sekera ($2.750m)
Brayden McNabb ($0.900m) / T.J. Brennan ($0.805m)
GOALTENDERS
Ryan Miller ($6.250m)
OTHER
Buried: Cody McCormick ($0.275m)
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CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS (follow @capgeek on Twitter)
(these totals are compiled with the bonus cushion)
SALARY CAP: $64,300,000; CAP PAYROLL: $62,124,482; BONUSES: $910,000
CAP SPACE (22-man roster): $3,085,518


Would this work?