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#1 eball

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 05:59 AM

I lost count last night, but Rob Ray said "he seen this" or "he seen that" at least a half dozen times.  Is that like nails on a chalkboard to anyone else?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:25 AM

Maybe he's just a big fan of Yes?

....

With Ray, what you hear and see is what you get, and it is also what you are going to get going forward.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 06:37 AM

View PostThat Aud Smell, on 22 January 2013 - 06:25 AM, said:

Maybe he's just a big fan of Yes?

....

With Ray, what you hear and see is what you get, and it is also what you are going to get going forward.

I think you meant, "what you seen is what you get."

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:28 AM

I think I did noticed a 've sound in there before one of the seens.  But just once.  The rest were annoying.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:50 AM

He's a fan favorite for a reason.  He speaks their language.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 08:53 AM

While it irritates me a bit under the skin it's not enough to get me upset.  If Rob Ray sucked at the job then I would be more upset but I really like his input on things.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:03 AM

Rays earned the right to do whatever he saw fit to.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:10 AM

I love this thread

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:19 AM

I seen what ya did dere.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:28 AM

View Postbunomatic, on 22 January 2013 - 09:03 AM, said:

Rays earned the right to do whatever he saw fit to.

I think you mean seen fit to.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

I seen his number in the rafters

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

Rob Ray can say seen eighty times a night if I don't have to hear Harry Neale trying to estimate the distances of shots and forgetting what he seen.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:44 AM

Yous guys should just leave him alone. It aint that big a deal what he seen.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:46 AM

I seen this comin.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:48 AM

View Postqwksndmonster, on 22 January 2013 - 09:44 AM, said:

Rob Ray can say seen eighty times a night if I don't have to hear Harry Neale trying to estimate the distances of shots and forgetting what he seen.

I say I agree agree with what I seen you write here

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:51 AM

As a Buffalo ex-pat, I kind of like hearing people talking in dat olt-country dialeck.  It reminds me of home.


Better than all the y'alls and fixin' tos I get around here.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 09:57 AM

I don't know...to me, everyone panics over RJ, Hamilton or Sylverster...but I think Rob Ray is just brutal to listen to.  I am no fan of Harry Neale, so I don't mind that subtraction...but, Ray is kind of humrous in small doses...but he is rough on the ears...someone needs to tell him to breath, and speak from his diaphram, not his nasal cavity... give Andrew Peters a shot at doing color...

View PostDoohickie, on 22 January 2013 - 09:51 AM, said:

As a Buffalo ex-pat, I kind of like hearing people talking in dat olt-country dialeck.  It reminds me of home.


Better than all the y'alls and fixin' tos I get around here.

:thumbsup: I hear ya!

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:09 AM

I always ripped on Jim Lorentz for being boring and stating the obvious, but after several years of listening to the stylings of Harry Neale, I'd kill to have him back right about now.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:28 AM

He's Canadian! seen is correct in Canada..

Edited by waldo, 22 January 2013 - 10:29 AM.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:40 AM

View PostLabattBlue, on 22 January 2013 - 10:09 AM, said:

I always ripped on Jim Lorentz for being boring and stating the obvious, but after several years of listening to the stylings of Harry Neale, I'd kill to have him back right about now.

Yeah.  Must confess, I didn't really appreciate Lorentz, until I started getting the Center Ice package, and hearing all the other guys around the league.  RJ & Lorentz were definitely in the elite category.  i was excited about Neale, but, it became apparent early on, he was just mailing it in on the Sabres broadcasts.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:52 AM

View Postbuftex, on 22 January 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

I don't know...to me, everyone panics over RJ, Hamilton or Sylverster...but I think Rob Ray is just brutal to listen to.  I am no fan of Harry Neale, so I don't mind that subtraction...but, Ray is kind of humrous in small doses...but he is rough on the ears...someone needs to tell him to breath, and speak from his diaphram, not his nasal cavity... give Andrew Peters a shot at doing color...


Oh, good God no. Peters is absolutely brutal to listen to.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 10:59 AM

I think Ray does a great job adding the color commentary.  I haven't really noticed the seen vs. saw issue, but the quirk that drives me up the wall is the overusage and mispronouciation of the phrase "at all."  He pronounces it like "a Toll"

The only other thing that bugs me about Ray, is when he is discucssing PP stategy or like the 5 on three PK yesterday.  It's kind of like OK Rob you're the expert.  Still we could have a total tool like Bob Errey or Darryl Raugh, and anyone is better than Neale.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:16 AM

I always laugh at Rob's, "No, you're right..."

I thought Brian Duff had a semi-ruff night. Some of this questions were way, way too long, considering the limited time he had. I take him to be a perfectionist. The two times I noticed questions getting away from him, when he finally got done, you could see him making a face at himself.

Duff also used "him" instead of "he" once. It was pretty blatant, but I don't remember the specifics.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:19 AM

Yah, right-o. So I'm tendin' bar down there at Ecklund and Swedlin's last Tuesday and this little guy's drinkin' and he says, 'So where can a guy find some action? I'm goin' crazy out there at the lake.' And I says, 'What kinda action?' And he says, 'Woman action, what do I look like?' And I says, 'Well, what do I look like, I don't arrange that kinda thing,' and he says, 'But I'm goin' crazy out there at the lake,' and I says, 'Yah, but this ain't that kinda place.'  He says, 'Oh, so I get it, so you think I'm some kinda jerk for askin',' only he don't use the word jerk.  Then he calls me a jerk and says the last guy who thought he was a jerk is dead now. So I don't say nothin'. He says, 'What do ya think about that?' And I says, 'Well, that don't sound like too good a deal for him, then.'  Yah. He says, 'Yah, that guy's dead and I don't mean of old age.' And then he says, 'Geez, I'm goin' crazy out there at the lake.'  Yah, well, at Ecklund and Swedlin, that's closer to Moose Lake, so I made that assumption.  Anyway, he was drinkin' at the bar, so I don't think a whole great deal of it, but then Mrs. Mohra, she heard about the homicides down here and thought I should call it in, so I called it in. End of story.



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View PostPASabreFan, on 22 January 2013 - 11:16 AM, said:

I thought Brian Duff had a semi-ruff night. Some of this questions were way, way too long, considering the limited time he had. I take him to be a perfectionist. The two times I noticed questions getting away from him, when he finally got done, you could see him making a face at himself.

He's been smoother fo sho, but in his defense, it was game 1 and they gave him A LOT of time to fill.  He wasn't short on the insight, just big with the run on sentences.

Edited by IKnowPhysics, 22 January 2013 - 11:19 AM.


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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:20 AM

View PostRico7, on 22 January 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:

Oh, good God no. Peters is absolutely brutal to listen to.
Not sure how he would do in the confines of a broadcast but I love him on hockey hotline.  He's got the gift of gab.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:23 AM

Petey and Marty as analysts, hosted by Duffer for future broadcasts?

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:24 AM

And apparently the video guy only listens to Roby when he is told to "stop it right there".

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:37 AM

View Postinkman, on 22 January 2013 - 11:20 AM, said:

Not sure how he would do in the confines of a broadcast but I love him on hockey hotline.  He's got the gift of gab.

Yup.  In all fairness to Sylevester, the Hockey Hotline was pretty dreadful to listen to during the lockout..unless Peters was on.  I think he is genuinely pretty funny... I like Ray too, but over the long-haul, he is tough to listen to for 3 hours.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 11:56 AM

You tell him to his face and let me know how that works out...

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:05 PM

Literally

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:08 PM

View Postbuftex, on 22 January 2013 - 11:37 AM, said:

Yup.  In all fairness to Sylevester, the Hockey Hotline was pretty dreadful to listen to during the lockout..unless Peters was on.  I think he is genuinely pretty funny... I like Ray too, but over the long-haul, he is tough to listen to for 3 hours.
I kind of get what you're saying about Ray. He seems.... jumpy. He's not smooth at all.

Still, I have a soft spot in my heart for him, so he can do whatever he wants.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:11 PM

View PostRico7, on 22 January 2013 - 10:52 AM, said:



Oh, good God no. Peters is absolutely brutal to listen to.

The last time I heard Peters do color it was for a Canisius hockey game and he spent half a period talking about tacos. Dude is atrocious.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:23 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 22 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The last time I heard Peters do color it was for a Canisius hockey game and he spent half a period talking about tacos. Dude is atrocious.
I might enjoy that type of broadcast

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:26 PM

View Postbillsrcursed, on 22 January 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

I kind of get what you're saying about Ray. He seems.... jumpy. He's not smooth at all.

Still, I have a soft spot in my heart for him, so he can do whatever he wants.

Not jumpy... he's "scrambley".

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:28 PM

View PostPunch, on 22 January 2013 - 12:26 PM, said:

Not jumpy... he's "scrambley".

Yes, that's it. It gets awkward, like his brain isn't processing in real time. Too many blows to the head, perhaps.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:33 PM

View Postbillsrcursed, on 22 January 2013 - 12:28 PM, said:

Yes, that's it. It gets awkward, like his brain isn't processing in real time. Too many blows to the head, perhaps.

I'll point out--- I suggested "scrambley" because Ray used to overuse that fake word whenever trying to describe the action if the Sabres were nervous or not in sync. I'm not really sure if he still says it as often or if I just no longer notice it.

It does seem to fit his broadcasting style at times.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 12:47 PM

View PostWho Else?, on 22 January 2013 - 10:59 AM, said:

Still we could have a total tool like Bob Errey or Darryl Raugh, and anyone is better than Neale.

Are you kidding?  I like Daryl Reaugh.  He's knowledgeable and has a good sense of humor.  Maybe in spot duty on the major networks, it's harder to appreciate him, but listening to him and Ralph Strangis on the Stars broadcasts day and and day out are a pleasure.  



Considering a new drinking game for the next Sabres game:  Whenever Rob Ray says "No, you're right..." is a swig of beer, every "seen" is a swig of vodka........

View PostJJFIVEOH, on 22 January 2013 - 12:05 PM, said:

Literally

It was literally raining cats & dogs here the other day....

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:12 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 22 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The last time I heard Peters do color it was for a Canisius hockey game and he spent half a period talking about tacos. Dude is atrocious.

HAHA! I remember him going off on some long tangent, and I muted the TV for the remainder of the period.  Glad to know it was about tacos haha.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:31 PM

View Postbillsrcursed, on 22 January 2013 - 12:08 PM, said:

I kind of get what you're saying about Ray. He seems.... jumpy. He's not smooth at all.

Still, I have a soft spot in my heart for him, so he can do whatever he wants.

No, I like Ray too...I just think he is better as the third guy... IIRC, way back in the hot tub time machine, Mike Robatille used to do color with Ted Darling on the tv broadcasts...he was hard to listen to as well...but as a studio analyst he was highly entertaining....and I still love "Robie Radio".  Maybe it would be same for Peters, easier to be entertaining in the studio, under less time constraint, but I wouldn't mind seeing him get a shot.

View Postd4rksabre, on 22 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The last time I heard Peters do color it was for a Canisius hockey game and he spent half a period talking about tacos. Dude is atrocious.

Well...no swipe at Canisus hockey, but I have a feeling Peters would be able to offer a little more insight to a Sabres broadcast than a Golden Griffs game.  He is not far removed from the game, played for Lindy Ruff (looks like he isn't going anywhere any time soon), and seems pretty knowelgable about the rest of the league. And he has a decent radio voice.

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Posted 22 January 2013 - 01:43 PM

View Postd4rksabre, on 22 January 2013 - 12:11 PM, said:

The last time I heard Peters do color it was for a Canisius hockey game and he spent half a period talking about tacos. Dude is atrocious.
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What kind of tacos?