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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:02 AM

Per ESPN's Scott Burnside, he is.

    

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Lindy Ruff, Buffalo Sabres

No NHL head coach has been with his current team as long as Lindy Ruff, who became the Sabres' coach in July 1997. Although he has one of the keenest hockey minds in the game, the rope has frayed considerably in recent years. After appearances in the Eastern Conference finals in 2006 and 2007, the Sabres have failed to get out of the first round and, in fact, have missed the playoffs in three of the past five seasons. Last season was especially disappointing, as the Sabres, under new ownership, opened the vault to bring in players such as Robyn Regehr, Christian Ehrhoff and Ville Leino, then staggered through the first two-thirds of the season before falling short of a playoff berth in the final days of the regular season. Have to imagine a slow start will not be acceptable for owner Terry Pegula.

Link- http://espn.go.com/c...oaches-hot-seat

I have to disagree with him though. We all know the love-affair Terry Pegula has with Ruff and Darcy. If the Sabres do start off slow, i think they'll be quick to blame the inexperience at forward, bright prospects on the horizon and short season as not a good way to judge.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:05 AM

I magine there'll be a string of injuries to blame as well.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:35 AM

I'd have to think the Sabres would need to be miserably horrible for the front office to justify firing Ruff during or directly after a shortened season.

This would appear to have more merit going into next season.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 07:48 AM

Burnside is a clown.

Ruff will not be fired anytime soon ... :censored: .

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:22 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 January 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Burnside is a clown.

Ruff will not be fired anytime soon ... :censored: .

Darcy, on the other hand...

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:32 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 January 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Burnside is a clown.

Ruff will not be fired anytime soon ... :censored: .

View PostEleven, on 09 January 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

Darcy, on the other hand...

See my quote above and just substitute Darcy for Lindy ... :censored: .

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 08:43 AM

If Regier goes I would guess the new GM would want to pick his own coach so Ruff could go also.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:00 AM

You forgot that the compacted schedule will probably mean a lot of back-to-backs, but even if it's every-other-night, the schedule will be to blame for a "tired" team.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:25 AM

View Postsizzlemeister, on 09 January 2013 - 09:00 AM, said:

You forgot that the compacted schedule will probably mean a lot of back-to-backs, but even if it's every-other-night, the schedule will be to blame for a "tired" team.

Yeah, but the thing is EVERY NHL team will be in the same boat - in fact, the Western Conference teams have it rougher as their travel distances are generally longer.  Shortened season or no, the Stanley Cup will be awarded to some team this year.  If the Sabres don't play well and miss the playoffs (again) or bow out in Round one, (which is very  likely), we're back at the same point with the Darcy and Lindy show.  It's like the movie "Groundhog Day"; the same tired excuses every year.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:39 AM

I don't think many, if any, coaches will be fired mid season this year. The seasons too short, with limited preparation/training camps to start the season, and games being scheduled closer to each other I think teams will be forced to ride out the season with their current coaches and makes decisions at the end of the year. There won't be many breaks where you could fire a coach, and have the replacement come step in and prepare.

I also really don't think Lindy has done as bad a job with what he has had as the majority here think, even last year he was given (as his "upgrades") a physical defencemen who appears to be wearing down quickly, another defencemen that the Canucks fans were all for getting rid of because they said after watching him for so long he wasn't worth the money he would want to stay, and Leino ('nough said). Just because they overpaid for 2 of those 3 guys, it doesn't amke them any better then what they are, it just means they overpaid for what they got.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:43 AM

View PostSabre Dance, on 09 January 2013 - 09:25 AM, said:

Yeah, but the thing is EVERY NHL team will be in the same boat - in fact, the Western Conference teams have it rougher as their travel distances are generally longer.  Shortened season or no, the Stanley Cup will be awarded to some team this year.  If the Sabres don't play well and miss the playoffs (again) or bow out in Round one, (which is very  likely), we're back at the same point with the Darcy and Lindy show.  It's like the movie "Groundhog Day"; the same tired excuses every year.

You're preaching to the choir ;)

Nobody will disagree that other teams have to face the exact same obstacles as the Sabres, it's just that this front office have had a history of molding every little bump in the road into a viable excuse for not meeting expectations.

Larry Quinn was the true master of excuses, and while Darcy will never be as bad as Larry the Moron, he does seem to have picked up a nasty habit of trying to blame every poor season on things other teams seem to handle just fine.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:55 AM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 January 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Burnside is a clown.

Ruff will not be fired anytime soon ... :censored: .

Right, Burnside is a columnist, not a reporter. This is nothing more than his opinion, it's not based on sources or anything.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 09:57 AM

View PostEleven, on 09 January 2013 - 08:22 AM, said:

Darcy, on the other hand...

Terry is the GM. Darcy is his useful yes-man.

As for this Ruff blurb, I know I saw this in Heloise's column -- for liquids on your keyboard, do you spray with lemon juice and turn upside down, or put it in the microwave on defrost?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:06 AM

View PostPASabreFan, on 09 January 2013 - 09:57 AM, said:

Terry is the GM. Darcy is his useful yes-man.

As for this Ruff blurb, I know I saw this in Heloise's column -- for liquids on your keyboard, do you spray with lemon juice and turn upside down, or put it in the microwave on defrost?

Absolutely not.  Maybe Ted Black, and even then, I don't think so.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:35 AM

View PostVanek-Man, on 09 January 2013 - 04:02 AM, said:

Per ESPN's Scott Burnside, he is.



Link- http://espn.go.com/c...oaches-hot-seat

I have to disagree with him though. We all know the love-affair Terry Pegula has with Ruff and Darcy. If the Sabres do start off slow, i think they'll be quick to blame the inexperience at forward, bright prospects on the horizon and short season as not a good way to judge.
Not commenting on whether GM & Coach SHOULD be fired if team underperforms this season; simply stating that between the shortened season, the lack of C depth, and the likely injuries that come with a shortened training camp I'd be very surprised if either or both are shown the door before '13-'14 starts.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:42 AM

View PostTaro T, on 09 January 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Not commenting on whether GM & Coach SHOULD be fired if team underperforms this season; simply stating that between the shortened season, the lack of C depth, and the likely injuries that come with a shortened training camp I'd be very surprised if either or both are shown the door before '13-'14 starts.

Agreed, but that doesn't mean we won't hear about it here everyday!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:46 AM

97% of people who thought ruff should have been fired 2 years ago think he should be fired this season.

3% have died of natural causes over the last 24 months.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:33 AM

View PostLastPommerFan, on 09 January 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

97% of people who thought ruff should have been fired 2 years ago think he should be fired this season.

3% have died of natural causes over the last 24 months.

Ahhh...... so those are the 30 lost season tix holders.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:50 AM

View PostLastPommerFan, on 09 January 2013 - 10:46 AM, said:

97% of people who thought ruff should have been fired 2 years ago think he should be fired this season.

3% have died of natural causes over the last 24 months.

:w00t:

View PostTaro T, on 09 January 2013 - 10:35 AM, said:

Not commenting on whether GM & Coach SHOULD be fired if team underperforms this season; simply stating that between the shortened season, the lack of C depth, and the likely injuries that come with a shortened training camp I'd be very surprised if either or both are shown the door before '13-'14 starts.
Which century?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 12:09 PM

View PostSabres Fan In NS, on 09 January 2013 - 07:48 AM, said:

Burnside is a clown.

Ruff will not be fired anytime soon EVER... :censored: .

FIFY

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:11 PM

The only reason the seat is hot is because Pegula gave him one of those Brookstone massage chairs for Christmas.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:29 PM

View Postweave, on 09 January 2013 - 11:33 AM, said:

Ahhh...... so those are the 30 lost season tix holders.

I still don't get the 30 lost season ticket holder thing that is going around here.  Can someone explain?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 01:44 PM

View PostEleven, on 09 January 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

I still don't get the 30 lost season ticket holder thing that is going around here.  Can someone explain?

I think Ted Black said something like that at the presser. I heard on the radio here in Philly some stupidly small percentage of people returned their Flyers tickets too, so it's just a thing.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 02:47 PM

View PostEleven, on 09 January 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

I still don't get the 30 lost season ticket holder thing that is going around here.  Can someone explain?

Around here, we like to grab random quotes and run them into the ground while attacking the front office.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:47 PM

After 48 games last season, the Sabres were last in the East Conference, 28th out of 30 overall.    

That said, I'm looking forward to having a chance to draft Seth Jones in June.

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:54 PM

View Postpi2000, on 09 January 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

After 48 games last season, the Sabres were last in the East Conference, 28th out of 30 overall.

That said, I'm looking forward to having a chance to draft Seth Jones in June.

Nathan MacKinnon!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:55 PM

View Postpi2000, on 09 January 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

After 48 games last season, the Sabres were last in the East Conference, 28th out of 30 overall.

That said, I'm looking forward to having a chance to draft Seth Jones in June.

Jones, Erhoff, Myers, Sekera, McNabb, Pysyk and Mccabe - that would be an awesome defense

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 03:59 PM

View Postpi2000, on 09 January 2013 - 03:47 PM, said:

After 48 games last season, the Sabres were last in the East Conference, 28th out of 30 overall.

That said, I'm looking forward to having a chance to draft Seth Jones in June.
yeah, so we skipped the first 48 games this year and therefore should be like the last few months of the season last year where tehy were one of the better teams!

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:39 PM

So this is year 2 of a three-year plan to win the Cup and no one is all that optimistic?

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 04:40 PM

View PostPASabreFan, on 09 January 2013 - 04:39 PM, said:

So this is year 2 of a three-year plan to win the Cup and no one is all that optimistic?

Paging PA to the roster thread...

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 10:21 PM

I missed this... ;)

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Posted 09 January 2013 - 11:51 PM

View PostThirtyEight, on 09 January 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Jones, Erhoff, Myers, Sekera, McNabb, Pysyk and Mccabe - that would be an awesome defense

I agree with Sabres fan in NS with Nathan MacKinnon. No knock on Jones, im sure he will be a heck of a player for a very long time, but MacKinnon has some Sidney Crosby comparisons in him. I'd take him 10 out of 10 times, These type of players win you Stanley Cups.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 04:19 AM

I think Center Depth is a real strength of this team.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:52 AM

View PostThirtyEight, on 09 January 2013 - 03:55 PM, said:

Jones, Erhoff, Myers, Sekera, McNabb, Pysyk and Mccabe - that would be an awesome defense
or MacKinnon, Grigorenko, Hodgson, Ennis, Foligno, Armia... thats one hell of a lineup.


anyways, Ruff is not on the "hot seat" because even if we suck this year it will be chalked up to it being a shortened season, if we do good it will be look at Ruff did even in a shortened season. The guy can't lose.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:56 AM

View PostEleven, on 09 January 2013 - 01:29 PM, said:

I still don't get the 30 lost season ticket holder thing that is going around here.  Can someone explain?

During the presser Black was asked if there was much fan backlash in the form of season tix holder losses.  He said they lost about 30 STH and wasn't sure of the reason.  Mentioned the economy, people relocating, and death as possibilities.

View Postshrader, on 09 January 2013 - 02:47 PM, said:

Around here, we like to grab random quotes and run them into the ground while attacking the front office.

I was just using some thread bleed to attempt humor.  Unsuccessfully I gather.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 08:59 AM

View PostVanek-Man, on 09 January 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

I agree with Sabres fan in NS with Nathan MacKinnon. No knock on Jones, im sure he will be a heck of a player for a very long time, but MacKinnon has some Sidney Crosby comparisons in him. I'd take him 10 out of 10 times, These type of players win you Stanley Cups.

The reports I heard on him coming out of the world juniors were that he wasn't ready to play at that stage.  Meanwhile, talk of Jones seemed to be much higher.  It really makes you wonder about the kid a bit.

But speaking of those big shot young prospects, anyone know how have Ekblad and McDavid been in the OHL so far?

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 09:15 AM

View Postweave, on 10 January 2013 - 08:56 AM, said:

During the presser Black was asked if there was much fan backlash in the form of season tix holder losses.  He said they lost about 30 STH and wasn't sure of the reason.  Mentioned the economy, people relocating, and death as possibilities.



I was just using some thread bleed to attempt humor.  Unsuccessfully I gather.

Only because I didn't get the reference!

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:17 PM

View Postgregkash, on 10 January 2013 - 04:19 AM, said:

I think Center Depth is a real strength of this team.

:o  ...

:unsure: !!


EDIT TO ADD:

Oh, wait.  Isn't Greg the comedian?

Edited by Sabres Fan In NS, 10 January 2013 - 01:32 PM.


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Posted 10 January 2013 - 01:31 PM

View PostVanek-Man, on 09 January 2013 - 11:51 PM, said:

I agree with Sabres fan in NS with Nathan MacKinnon. No knock on Jones, im sure he will be a heck of a player for a very long time, but MacKinnon has some Sidney Crosby comparisons in him. I'd take him 10 out of 10 times, These type of players win you Stanley Cups.

View Postshrader, on 10 January 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:

The reports I heard on him coming out of the world juniors were that he wasn't ready to play at that stage.  Meanwhile, talk of Jones seemed to be much higher.  It really makes you wonder about the kid a bit.

But speaking of those big shot young prospects, anyone know how have Ekblad and McDavid been in the OHL so far?

I have seen MacKinnon play many times.

IMO, and also the opinion of many others, he is the next Crosby.

Which ever team drafts him and builds their team around him will have a very good chance to win the cup.

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Posted 10 January 2013 - 05:26 PM

View Postshrader, on 10 January 2013 - 08:59 AM, said:


But speaking of those big shot young prospects, anyone know how have Ekblad and McDavid been in the OHL so far?

Killing it.

McDavid is a lock to be first overall in 2014. 18goals, 24ast, 42pts in 36 games.
Ekbald - 5 goals, 15ast, 20pt in 31 games... is 6'3 already at his age. #2 pick lock in 2014.